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Lawmakers are divided on stem cells

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BC | 1:34 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
Its about time!!
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Anonymous | 2:48 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
I agree its about time. This resistance to science has got to stop. So many lives can be saved.
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JazzFan | 3:28 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
Did anybody see the piece on ESPN about the Boozers and their whole ordeal with their oldest child? (Maybe everybody in Utah already knows about it but I don't live there.) I can't recall exactly but I think there was some use of stem cells for them as well, or at least embryos. I think hearing their story in detail may change some minds about what is right and wrong. I don't normally support some of these initiatives but I realized through the Boozers story that my position may change if I am found in one of those situations where it could really help one of my children, particularly if death is the other option.
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for life | 6:07 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
If I had a child on life-support, who was about to die, I would want to donate his organs in order to save other lives.

If in the process of fertility treatments we had leftover embryos, which would otherwise be destroyed, I would want to donate them so that discoveries could be made which might eventually save millions of lives.

Careful use of embryonic stem cells is very much pro-life.

(Yes I know there is the option of the embryos being adopted, and I'm all for that. But a very very small percentage of them are adopted. The rest, that would otherwise be destroyed, should go to save lives.)
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treeleaf64 | 6:20 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
There is also a lot of promise with adult stem cells derived from bone marrow and cord blood.
Using these forms of stem cells takes the ethical questions away from the table.
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Dave B | 7:03 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
God bless Senator Hatch, stem cell research needs a chance.
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FreeSpeech | 7:36 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
Those companies are not being told they can not do it. They are just being told they can not do it with YOUR MONEY. If they want to do research, then do it with their own money and not the taxpayers money. There is to much of giving the taxpayer money away going around now! DO IT WITH YOUR OWN BUSINESS MONEY!!!!!!!
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K | 8:05 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
I did IVF and If there were any chance we'd have left over embryos, which we didn't, I'd not want them be destroyed in the sake of science. I would argue that less embryos should be created in fertility clinicslower dosage for overstimulating of the ovaries will still provide enough eggs for fertilization and is safer for the woman.

Firstly the science has shown that adult stem cells and cord blood stem cells are much more useful in actually assisting in treatments. There is more promise there and no human being dies.

Secondly, I don't buy the donated organ comparison. The organ is a part of life, not the entire life. They also don't transplant organs like the brain for instance. They don't take both kidneys. The arguement is that they are going to be destroyed or killed anyway was used by the Nazi's when they experimented on people in the concentration camps.

The embryo is a life. Conception until natural death. No life is more valuable than another. You don't kill one to save another. This is the same thing as harvesting a born person's parts to the point that they die from the process.
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arc | 8:08 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
The question is not if the research, done with proper limits, needs a chance, the question is that with many people thinking this is morally wrong, to take there taxpayer money and use it for something they find this way - that is the point.

for life:6:07am has some very good points to have research legal. I still don't like tax money being used for something that many find against their beliefs, whether I agree or not.

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Yes to research!! | 9:49 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
FINALLY! My only hope is that research can help my son with Huntingtons disease before its too late.
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MLR | 10:02 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
I don't understand why we never hear anything about getting stem cells from fat tissue. I personnally was involved with this process 4 years ago. I had a thoro-bred race horse that severely tore a left front led tendon in a race. After much consideration and several talks with top vets and a top veterinary clinic in So. Cal we decided to do a stem cell injection in the injured area. Two teaspoons of fat tissue was removed from the hind end(where most of the fat is on people and equine animals) just off from the tail, put that in a cool pack and overnighted to the clinic who then removed the cells from the fat then put them in a cool pack and overnighted them to the vet clinic for injection into the injured area via ultra-sound, then start the rehab process.The super part was it came from the animal that it was injected in to so no rejection worries. The healing was amazing, straight fiber lines-everything. The horse went back to competition 15 months later and won 3 top races in a row. Other horse and animal owners have had the same success.
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MLR ( cont) | 10:16 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
There was quite a rehab process with my experience, but nothing extreme. It started with mild exercise for several months leading up to more agreesive workoputs until finally ready to compete again 15 months after stem-cell injection. Local vets were amazed at the perfect healing that took place, which they checked via ultra-sound every 2 or 3 months. To me this process is proven for several injuries and failures and yet I never hear anything about exploring this process for humans. This of course takes the embryo arguement off the table. For more info on these applications Vet-Stem lab in So Cal could be used. Something this simple almost seems too good to be true but we need to research all applications.
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Law Makers | 10:57 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
The differance of doers and feet draggers
This is all about what is important to society
Not personal preferance
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K | 11:40 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
If all the people in favor of this gave money to have this privately done instead of wasting it getting politicians elected so that the government can do it - the government wouldn't need to fund it and more diseases would be helped from research from either embryonic and non destructive stem cell approaches.
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Puzzled | 11:48 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
Whenever I hear anti-government rants..."do it with your own business money"...I'm wondering what model you're working from? Are there other countries, in the history of the world, that solved societies ills through "business?" Please, tell me where this model has worked, I'd like to know! I think that many of you conservatives believe in a fantasy world that doesn't exist nor will ever exist. WE are the government...as a collective, democratic society, WE have decided to pay money into a fund and distribute this money for the good of society. To think that if we leave everything to capitalism, or greed, is frankly not only incredibly naive, but very dangerous and selfish.
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K | 12:24 p.m. Nov. 11, 2008
MLR,

Cause that doesn't further the abortion agenda like using embryonic stem cells. They are trying to use an embyronic stem cell breaththrough to point to abortion being a positive.

Just think how much cord blood is thrown away. It's costly to freeze for your own potential useful use. Just think what donations of cord blood could do!
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Huh? What about Obama? | 2:41 p.m. Nov. 11, 2008
Funny. Every other comment section for a story in the DNews that mentions Obama rants about how he is a socialist/communist/fascist @#$#!, how his @#$%# changes will destroy America, and how much worse off we all are because he is going to be the next president.

However, when one of these proposed "changes" from the past administration turns out to be good, the only politically oriented comment is "God bless Senator Hatch"?

You all are a bunch of politically hypocritical ingrates.

PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA: THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS POLICY CHANGE FROM THE PAST INEPT ADMINISTRATION! IT IS TIME THAT THIS CHANGE HAPPENED! EVEN THOUGH I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU ON OTHER ISSUES, AND I WILL DISAGREE WITH YOU WHEN I NEED TO, I AM A BIG ENOUGH PERSON TO RECOGNIZE THAT YOUR CHANGE IN POLICY WILL BE THE REASON FOR THIS CHANGE, AND I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU FOR IT!!

Grow up, Utah, and give Obama credit when it is due.
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At last | 4:04 p.m. Nov. 11, 2008
Sane decisions from a President. The use of stem cells, the prohibition of torture, the closing of Guantanamo...it's like waking from a nightmare...
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to FreeSpeech | 5:48 p.m. Nov. 11, 2008
Actually govt funded research happens all the time and is necessary. Business will go where the obvious money is but not necessarily where the best long-term solutions are. Many of the most advanced discoveries are made at universities funded with public money and grants from the govt. I completely agree with limiting govt's role as much as possible but there are some instances where the govt needs to provide direction (through funding) that would not otherwise happen. So again, the real question here is should the govt be funding something that may be morally wrong? It's a tough one. The Church has spoken on gay marriage; can they also tell me how to vote on this one?
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arc | 5:56 p.m. Nov. 11, 2008
For those that didn't like Bush, why didn't you give us someone else to vote for. Gore? Kerry? What did you expect.

If Obama would stay with some of the more moderate things on his website, we might have a chance of getting some good things out of him.

If he goes with some of the things some of the nuts he has hired to transition, not only will be worse off, you will see a GOP majority in both House and Senate in two years.
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