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LDS chapels in Davis, Weber damaged in vandalism spree

just leave the sacred alone , why does one have to follow in the steps of persecution just because they feel persecuted. just peace out.

If the problem gets to out of hand, start filiming the complete outdoors of the churches and their parking lots.

how come noone is doing this to the other churches and groups that supported prop 8?
also a possiblity that this is just punks doing it for fun(??) cause they think they can get away with it

I'm not convinced this has anything to do with Proposition 8.

Chapels get vandalized somewhere all the time, and the church has never not had critics, so why is the BB gun suddenly a result of prop 8?

Seems like "doing unto others" is coming home. Not condoning it, just stating a fact.

I agree with Tom. These things come and go, it seems like it's been a few years since the last string of vandalism.

Also, the Catholic church has been catching a lot of flak for their role in the Prop. 8 mess, so it's not just our church.

What in the world is that kind of comment?? "Doing unto others". Whose windows have we shot out lately? And don't tell me this is retaliation from prop 8. What's next? We have to patrol our property to prevent vandalism. I'll be the first to volunteer.

Doing unto others is coming home? I don't remember reading anything about Mormons using BB guns on anything.

How is this not a hate crime? Maybe "hate crimes" are defined to be crimes against politically correct people or groups.

Surely whoever vandalizes our churches has a certain amount of hate, enough hate at least to destroy our property on purpose.

Incomprehensibly, the police immediately dismiss the possibility of this being a hate crime. Their reaction highlights the absurdity of "hate crime" legislation in the first place. A crime is a crime is a crime, and for most types of crimes, hate is always involved to some degree.

This may be an anti-Mormon who is just taking an opportunity to do this at a time Mormons are facing severe criticm, or it could be someone who is really enraged about Prop 8, or it could be a pimply 13-year old with a BB gun.

Whatever it is, it's not right. I'm gay, and I'm absolutely furious with the Mormons and have no plans to let this issue go any time soon, but I certainly don't condone destroying glass doors at Mormon churches. It accomplishes nothing. In fact, it's counterproductive because it will just tarnish the 99.9999% of people who engage in debate legally, such as with advocacy, protests, marches, letters, emails, ads, etc.

Pardon the hyper-sensitive comment, but the word "incidents" (more than one incident) should have been used instead of "incidences" (more than one indicence). I hear/see newspeople using it wrong all the time (most recently Doug Wright on his KSL radio show).

Judging from the recent dissention amongst Mormons re: same-sex marriage, I think this is the work of other Mormons acting out.
Push something hard enough - and it falls over.

If its violence against one group of people, doesn't that define hate crime?
It doesn't have to be anything to do with prop 8 to be hate.
Or is it ok to shot our windows out if its 'just' anti-mormon?

If this had happened last January I would have suspected Mike Huckabee. ;)

Let's erase the words 'Hate Crime' from the American vocabulary. Hate crime attempt to punish people for what they believe, not what they do.

All men are permitted to believe anything they choose without fear of government action.

Hate Crimes are McCarthyism in reverse.

It's just ridiculous that the LDS church is getting blamed for Prop 8, if we were that popular about getting things our way Mitt Romney would have been meeting George W today to change over at the white house.
we're not that popular to have been a major factor in Prop 8, if it was anyone it was most likely the catholics or the other christians who were the key factors in Prop 8.

Re: Who Knows? I wish all people in your situation acted with class like you. We all have the right to protest, etc..., but vandalizing and stuff like that is wrong. As for the Mormon side, we have idiots that make the rest of us look bad too. I fully support the LDS church and their decision, but I also understand why many people are upset. I have several gay friends that I care about, but I simply just don't like what they practice. Our church has had a stance on it since I can remember.

Our Chapel was broken into last spring on a Fast Sunday evening by thieves looking for cash from tithing payments. I guess everyone doesn't know that tithings are deposited that same day and most of which are paid in personal checks. As far as this BB gun incident....whoever did it will someday realize what they did was wrong and will ask for forgiveness.

Don't automatically classify this as a hate crime. Most of the pro gay community is doing nothing more than the Mormons did. They are writing letters, investing their personal time and money trying to reverse the direction of the vote went in California. Let�s just hope the Mormons (Catholics, ect) are more forgiving of these efforts than the gay community has been.

What is strange Prop 8 passed by "Votes" If we are going to RECOUNT Votes we need to start with the Presidential race. Did we VOTE for a reason or not ? How about we tell President elect and his family votes DO NOT count, SORRY.We are going to start from square one. VOTES do count, here we are. It was not just the Mormons or Catholics or Jews that Voted we are Human beings.. Votes count!!! We need to live as one and follow the law of the LAND. That is how it is.

Vandalism of LDS churches happens all the time and usually turns out to be disgruntled teens belonging to the congregations.

Give the whole prop 8 thing a rest. Sheesh.