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Jeffs lawyers seek talks with Rangers
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Anonymous | 12:54 p.m. Oct. 22, 2008
Walker Texas Ranger?
Anonymous | 1:17 p.m. Oct. 22, 2008
i thought they meant the baseball team
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of course | 2:27 p.m. Oct. 22, 2008
the FLDS wants to supress all the evidence. An innocent person says "bring
it on" rather than trying to keep it out.
it's like pleading the 5th. Of course you can't be made to incriminate yourself - that's a good thing - but the very fact that you invoke it says you are afraid you will get caught doing that which you were't supposed to do.
for a "religious" organization, they act more like Scientologists (trying to hide everything) than the pious lot they portray themselves to be.
it's like pleading the 5th. Of course you can't be made to incriminate yourself - that's a good thing - but the very fact that you invoke it says you are afraid you will get caught doing that which you were't supposed to do.
for a "religious" organization, they act more like Scientologists (trying to hide everything) than the pious lot they portray themselves to be.
zxcvbnm | 4:00 p.m. Oct. 22, 2008
What a hoot ........a defendant trys to defend themselves and everyone blocks the defense,,,,,,
nosugrof | 4:07 p.m. Oct. 22, 2008
Teenage girls who are part of plural marriages can plead the fifthe. O0f course
people are accused of doing what the law has no business forbidding. If the
state of Texas were interested in justice, they would indict Angie Voss
Who's hiding? | 4:12 p.m. Oct. 22, 2008
If the FLDS is hiding ANYTHING they've done a superb job, because Texas
still has NO EVIDENCE of ANY abuse, and those families lives have been exposed
to the gaze of 1000's.
On the other hand it appears that Texas is the hiding. What about that so called "investigation" of Rosita Swinton? or the so called "investigation" of CPS into the abuse on the women and children reported by the MHMR workers from the Colliseum. Why didn't Texas invite the media in for the raid if they were so sure they were doing the right thing? Wouldn't the media have made them heros for "rescuing" all those women and children?
On the other hand it appears that Texas is the hiding. What about that so called "investigation" of Rosita Swinton? or the so called "investigation" of CPS into the abuse on the women and children reported by the MHMR workers from the Colliseum. Why didn't Texas invite the media in for the raid if they were so sure they were doing the right thing? Wouldn't the media have made them heros for "rescuing" all those women and children?
WELL SAID | 4:43 p.m. Oct. 22, 2008
Who's hiding?
well said i think that texas in in for a royal inbarassment im a thinken. what do you think?
well said i think that texas in in for a royal inbarassment im a thinken. what do you think?
Well Said | 4:47 p.m. Oct. 22, 2008
Who's hiding?
I think yall hit the nail on the head. texas is in for a royal imbarassment i'm a thinken. what do are you a thinken?
I think yall hit the nail on the head. texas is in for a royal imbarassment i'm a thinken. what do are you a thinken?
Mike | 5:31 p.m. Oct. 22, 2008
How does ANYONE, outside those immediately involved in the case, know what
evidence is or isn't there.
And as someone has already said: DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS!!!
And as someone has already said: DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS!!!
zxcvbnm | 9:27 p.m. Oct. 22, 2008
Oh yes...the evidence.....the mysterious evidence.......the evidence that with luck and a stacked court might get admitted.
Well 393 kids and their parents are out from under court supervision.
The one girl that is detained was testified against by two women who have never set foot on the ranch.
The bigamy charges with all the "evidence may be thrown out because the bigamy law is unconstitutional. To get thing real stired up the victims may never testify against the accused.
The real hoot is that Jeffs sits in prison alreadybusted so even with a conviction on additional charges the money spent is a waste.
Wanna buy an invisible crematorium anyone?
How about an 8x10 glossy of Jeffs kissing a 12 year old?
Seen any 37 year old teenagers lately?
Yep.......give the "evidence a try" then wait for it to be thrown out..........lol
Just curious | 8:37 a.m. Oct. 23, 2008
What about the bed? You know the bed in the temple? you know the bed with the
human hair on it? I thought that was supposed to mean something! I've been
waiting for the other shoe to fall and, NOTHING. I've even been reading
Texas" major source for news and/or evidence, The National Enquirer, and
still nothing.
PS..the baseball team..that was a good one!
and remember folks, dont mess with texas, it don't need no more messing up!
PS..the baseball team..that was a good one!
and remember folks, dont mess with texas, it don't need no more messing up!
Why? | 8:53 a.m. Oct. 23, 2008
Why should Texas Rangers give any interviews to Lawyers in Arizona?
Jeffs is accused of crimes in Texas, NOT arizona. And the Prosecution has already said, they wont be using any evidence in the Texas case. This is just a ploy to hold of on the trial.
Jeffs will get his turn, in Texas Courts! Then his attorneys can depose Texas Rangers.
Jeffs is accused of crimes in Texas, NOT arizona. And the Prosecution has already said, they wont be using any evidence in the Texas case. This is just a ploy to hold of on the trial.
Jeffs will get his turn, in Texas Courts! Then his attorneys can depose Texas Rangers.
Gal50 | 11:21 a.m. Oct. 23, 2008
Well, Jeffs is accused of crimes in Arizona. One reason for not considering
Texas evidence in the Arizona trial is that it hasn't been ruled admissible
or inadmissible and the hearings reviewing the evidence are going to be lengthy
and probably subject to appeals. It doesn't pay for Arizona to tinker with
this evidence. Jeffs' attorneys probably just want to get a look at the
evidence ASAP as they want to see the entire picture. What is likely to happen
in Texas in the Jeffs case may have some impact on how the lawyers deal with the
Arizona case. Child molesters typically don't fare well in prison and
perhaps Arizona better protects molesters. For Jeffs, it may pay to lose the
Arizona case.
The reason Jeffs needs to be prosecuted in Arizona is because he may only serve eight years of his Utah sentence. More likely that he will serve a longer term since the photos of him molesting a 12 year-old were released and he committed acts like these during the period he was on the run. He thumbed his nose at the justice system. The more convictions, the less likely he will be back on the streets.
The reason Jeffs needs to be prosecuted in Arizona is because he may only serve eight years of his Utah sentence. More likely that he will serve a longer term since the photos of him molesting a 12 year-old were released and he committed acts like these during the period he was on the run. He thumbed his nose at the justice system. The more convictions, the less likely he will be back on the streets.
zxcvbnm | 11:40 a.m. Oct. 23, 2008
The lawyers are trying to see what influence the Rangers had on the thinking and motivation of local LE.
Local LE may have given the Rangers some credit for knowing about some things like crematoriums, dead babies, hairs in beds.......pregnant teens.
Kinda skews the objectivity of the local LE when credibility is given to persons spreadind second hand rumor from an uncredible source.
The Texas LE was getting their stuff from biased sources that have proven to have exxagerated even semi credible accusations.
Texas wants a cover-up | 8:58 p.m. Oct. 23, 2008
They don't want any AZ judge looking at what Texas is doing.
Walther is going to allow in everything. If AZ decideds first that it's not allowed, her decision would look suspect.
That's why they don't want to use it.
Walther is going to allow in everything. If AZ decideds first that it's not allowed, her decision would look suspect.
That's why they don't want to use it.
Interloper | 2:24 a.m. Oct. 25, 2008
As the attorney interviewed said, there is no reason for the Texas Rangers to be
deposed at this time. The crimes Warren Jeffs is charged with in Arizona arose
before the raid on Yearning for Zion Ranch. The prosecutors in that case
already have gathered their evidence and have a trial strategy.
The other reason the court should not force the Texas witnesses to comply is that Jeffs' lawyers are likely trying to glean information to prepare for his Texas cases under the pretext of gathering it for the Arizona case. That can wait until Jeffs is tried in Texas.
The other reason the court should not force the Texas witnesses to comply is that Jeffs' lawyers are likely trying to glean information to prepare for his Texas cases under the pretext of gathering it for the Arizona case. That can wait until Jeffs is tried in Texas.
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