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BYU football: Dreams can be dashed at TCU
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Cougar Fan in Fort Worth! | 9:10 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Excited for the game in Fort Worth! I was at the 2006 game when BYU beat TCU.
The defense played very well that day and John Beck was an amazing quarterback
that game. Hopefully, BYU can repeat the 2006 performance.
I don't understand | 9:19 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
The article mentioned that "the BYU offense has yet to be tested this
season. Its FBS opponents are near the bottom in the nation in scoring offense,
out of 119 teams � UCLA (No. 92), New Mexico (No. 95), Utah
State (No. 98), Washington (No. 104) and Wyoming (No. 119)." It then goes
on to say that TCU is No. 26 in scoring offense.
Pardon my lack of football knowledge, but how does comparing our offense to another team's offense prove whether or not our offense has been tested this year? Shouldn't we compare our offense to another team's DEFENSE to get a feel of whether or not we've been "tested"? Doesn't make much sense to me.
Pardon my lack of football knowledge, but how does comparing our offense to another team's offense prove whether or not our offense has been tested this year? Shouldn't we compare our offense to another team's DEFENSE to get a feel of whether or not we've been "tested"? Doesn't make much sense to me.
Hummmm | 9:27 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
I think BYU and UTAH fans are in lala land. You are only rated as high as you
are because you haven't lost a game. Unfortunately that is how the system
works. But reality is that both of you are not even top 25 teams if you had to
play everyone to prove your worth. Your teams just happen to be better than
average in a less than average conference. Against the best teams it would be
USC 60 BYU 10. Texas 55 Utah 7 and so on. Stop complaining about the BCS. It
is your best friend. If it was not for the bad system in place you would get
"Zero" national exposure. Just hope they never go to a play-off
system or you will be recognized as the OHIO STATE of the west. Good record,
poor conference and no-shows in the big games. So stop the YEWTS and COUGS
complaining and be happy for the bad system that is in place that makes you all
look fabulous.
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Turnover Margin | 9:28 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
#5 BYU +1.5 12 fumbles, 6 interceptions
#9 TCU +1.2 7 fumbles, 10 interceptions
Turnovers will be a key factor in determining the outcome of the game. With two of the best teams in the country in turnover margin, this will be interesting.
TCU averages about 1.3 interceptions per game. BYU has only thrown 4 interceptions all season.
BYU average two fumble recoveries per game. TCU has only given up 4 fumbles all season.
The team that protects the ball the best will win.
+2 or more BYU, BYU wins
+1 to -1 tossup
+2 or more TCU, TCU wins
#9 TCU +1.2 7 fumbles, 10 interceptions
Turnovers will be a key factor in determining the outcome of the game. With two of the best teams in the country in turnover margin, this will be interesting.
TCU averages about 1.3 interceptions per game. BYU has only thrown 4 interceptions all season.
BYU average two fumble recoveries per game. TCU has only given up 4 fumbles all season.
The team that protects the ball the best will win.
+2 or more BYU, BYU wins
+1 to -1 tossup
+2 or more TCU, TCU wins
UCLA Repeated | 9:31 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
After a couple of erratic games for the Cougs - I predict they come into
Thursday night on fire in all 3 phases of the game. TCU will be reeling with BYU
up 21-0 and the end of the 1st quarter. BYU ends up with a 45-10 win and the Ute
fans crawl onto this board trying to convince everyone that TCU was an imposter
anyway and will lose most of their remaining MWC games. One or two will give BYU
their due but the excuses will abound. The voters will believe BYU is for real
as they move to 17-0 and after a loss by a couple top ten teams BYU will sit at
#6.
re: UCLA Repeated | 9:47 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
...and then you wake up and realize that it is friday morning and you are
sleeping in your clothes after falling asleep crying your eyes out because the
cougs got wasted last night. See? Two can play at this imagination thing.
Pocatello Cougar | 9:59 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Hall hasn't looked as sharp the past couple of weeks, but every player goes
through a period of underachievement (though his numbers remain gaudy).
If Hall is crisp, and if the defense doesn't allow a couple of 80 yard type strikes, BYU wins in a walk. If, however, Hall plays "acceptable" and the TCU offense controls the clock, it's a 50-50 chance of winning.
However, a loss in Ft. Worth doesn't really mean much from the MWC perspective since the winner of a one-loss BYU team and an undefeated Ute team wins the conference. It would wreck any BCS hopes, of course, but that has never mattered to me. Let 'em go to the Las Vegas Bowl every year.
If Hall is crisp, and if the defense doesn't allow a couple of 80 yard type strikes, BYU wins in a walk. If, however, Hall plays "acceptable" and the TCU offense controls the clock, it's a 50-50 chance of winning.
However, a loss in Ft. Worth doesn't really mean much from the MWC perspective since the winner of a one-loss BYU team and an undefeated Ute team wins the conference. It would wreck any BCS hopes, of course, but that has never mattered to me. Let 'em go to the Las Vegas Bowl every year.
Whoa Nellie | 10:10 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
For the good of the conference a BYU win is more valuable than a TCU win since
it is highly unlikely that any one-loss MWC team could get into a BCS game. The
only way the conference wins is for Utah or BYU to finish undefeated. It's
all about dollars and you've got to wonder if all the ADs hope that BYU
wins this week.
Prediction | 10:15 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
TCU 57 BYU 0.
re: Hummmm | 10:16 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
The best teams and the best conferences... and the first one you mention is USC
from the PAC-10? Are you just arriving on the college football scene in 2008.
Oregon State, then, must be the best team in that "great"
conference... because they surely dominated USC. The PAC-10 might have the two
weakest teams in all of major college football - Washington State and Washington
- those are pretty much 2 automatic wins for all the other teams in the
conference. You also think that a team must play "everyone" to prove
they belong in the top 25? Well there isn't a team in college football
that does that, so I guess there is no such thing as a top 25 team (according to
your logic.) It sounds like you have bought into the beauty contest known as
the "BCS." That's where they "crown" a beauty queen as
the national champion based on the opinion of judges rather than the results on
the field.
Any team that is undefeated at this point in the season deserves to be ranked in the top 25. Any team that has won 16 games in a row deserves national recognition.
Any team that is undefeated at this point in the season deserves to be ranked in the top 25. Any team that has won 16 games in a row deserves national recognition.
RE: Cougar 4 | 10:17 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
The Kewgs do not strike fear into anybody, including MWC teams. The Kewgs
can't even scare Utah State. Calm down Cougar 4 your team is not that good.
It is really easy to look good playing sub .500 teams.
Advice | 10:17 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
BYU,
On no account cause damage to TCM unless it is, crucial to winning this game.
Don't let TCU get into the game for a second. Destroy them and eat them uncooked.
CraigP | 10:24 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Despite the fact that I'm a huge BYU fan and admittedly drink the blue
kool-aid from time to time, I have to give props to re:UCLA Repeated. That was
pretty good.
UCLA Repeated, I think you've been drinking a little *too much* of that kool-aid. 45-10? I think 17-10 is more likely, with BYU pulling out the win after 4 quarters of a defensive slugfest.
UCLA Repeated, I think you've been drinking a little *too much* of that kool-aid. 45-10? I think 17-10 is more likely, with BYU pulling out the win after 4 quarters of a defensive slugfest.
Zoobie | 10:24 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
RE: remark on Ernest T. Bass
I think Ernest is an Aggie fan, but probably the best advice is to just ignore him.
I think Ernest is an Aggie fan, but probably the best advice is to just ignore him.
Texas Cougar | 10:31 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Is there anyone out there that still thinks that BYU and Utah couldn't make
it in the Pac-10? The BCS should take away the Pac-10, Big East, and ACC
automatic bids and give them to specific teams that are more deserving (that
is...if you like parody and excitement in college football). I don't know
if BYU and Utah would qualify as "deserving" teams this year, but it
would make the BCS games more enjoyable to watch.
re: Scary | 10:40 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
"The Kewgs do not strike fear into anybody"
That's because you, my little brother, sitting in the comfort of your armchair, with your Cheetos-stained fingers on the remote, don't have to put on a uniform to face the Cougs on the field.
You don't have to cover Collie or Pitta. You don't have to tackle Unga. You don't have to face the blitz of Jorgensen or Nixon.
Otherwise, you'd be sweating bullets about the prospect of lining up across from 6'5", 348 lb, Ray Feinga or 6'8", 330 lb, David Oswald.
Don't scare anyone? ha!
That's because you, my little brother, sitting in the comfort of your armchair, with your Cheetos-stained fingers on the remote, don't have to put on a uniform to face the Cougs on the field.
You don't have to cover Collie or Pitta. You don't have to tackle Unga. You don't have to face the blitz of Jorgensen or Nixon.
Otherwise, you'd be sweating bullets about the prospect of lining up across from 6'5", 348 lb, Ray Feinga or 6'8", 330 lb, David Oswald.
Don't scare anyone? ha!
Dallas Coug | 10:43 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
I was there in '06 to see the game. I talked to Y fans after the game that
came as far as Corpus Christi to be there- over six hours away. It was amazing
(and perplexing to the Frogs) and it was loud. Saying 1/2 were BYU fans would
be too much, but I would say it was close to 1/3 (Cougar United). Patterson
knows this isn't the typical opponents traveling fan base. I hope we rock
the house again!
Cosmo | 10:44 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
RE: 50 years Ute fan
STOP it! You're ruining all my established bad stereotypes of what Ute fans are supposed to act like. Even if the Cougars slip Thurs. or the Utes slip later the rivalry game should still be great. Undefeated teams would sure be fun though.
STOP it! You're ruining all my established bad stereotypes of what Ute fans are supposed to act like. Even if the Cougars slip Thurs. or the Utes slip later the rivalry game should still be great. Undefeated teams would sure be fun though.
UteFire. | 10:45 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
After watching TCU struggle with CSU and give up two major plays that would have
worked but the receivers dropped the ball... I think Hall and Collie may have
the right dynamics to make some big plays on the Frogs.
I don't think CSU has, with new Coach Fairchild, improved that much so I imagine TCU may have been looking forward and preparing a little for BYU. Dangerous but it might help.
TCU is going to bring all their guns to this fight and it is at home. Should be a heavy game. Excited to watch how it all turns out.
I don't think CSU has, with new Coach Fairchild, improved that much so I imagine TCU may have been looking forward and preparing a little for BYU. Dangerous but it might help.
TCU is going to bring all their guns to this fight and it is at home. Should be a heavy game. Excited to watch how it all turns out.
re:re: UCLA Repeated | 9:47 a.m. | 10:46 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
How old are you???
Go TCU! | 10:48 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
As a Ute fan, a TCU win helps the Utes more than a BYU win. Here's why:
If TCU loses, they drop out of the top 25 and won't be ranked when Utah plays them in a couple of weeks.
If BYU loses, they drop in the polls, but not clear out of the top 25.
Ergo, with a TCU victory, Utah has a chance to beat TWO ranked teams in the last three games of the season, which is better than beating just one.
Besides, if BYU drops out of the top 10, the pollsters are more likely to give Utah some of those votes that have been going to BYU, making it easier for Utah to move a little higher.
If TCU loses, they drop out of the top 25 and won't be ranked when Utah plays them in a couple of weeks.
If BYU loses, they drop in the polls, but not clear out of the top 25.
Ergo, with a TCU victory, Utah has a chance to beat TWO ranked teams in the last three games of the season, which is better than beating just one.
Besides, if BYU drops out of the top 10, the pollsters are more likely to give Utah some of those votes that have been going to BYU, making it easier for Utah to move a little higher.
Re: Prediction | 10:50 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
BYU 28
TCU 27
Yes, you read it right. I do want BYU to be unbeaten coming into Nov 22. I want Utah to hand them their only loss of the season.
SoCalUtahFan
TCU | 10:51 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Hopefully the kewgs will not be handed the game by the officals. We all know
that's the only reason they won at Washington and squeeked by New Mexico
(don't bother trying to disprove, we all know it's true). It's
about time the kewgs lose for the right reason, that reason being that
they're waaaaaay overrated and are not a top ten team. All the flaws will
be exposed by TCU. Down with the kewgs!!! Ha ha ha
The facts: admit it or not | 10:54 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
RE: Cougar 4,
As long as BYU keeps beating the MWC, teams should be afraid. But I suppose, as long as teams keep losing to BYU, BYU really doesn't have to care whether or not BYU strikes fear into an unsuspecting opponent.
Take a lesson from "50 year utes fan," though; smart fans realize that BYU, Utah, & TCU are not easy teams for anyone to schedule right now. MWC teams just don't have the luxury of dodging these three powerhouses, or they might. I'm not sure how good a lot of teams are in the nation, but I know that the so-called elite programs have scheduled less games in Provo given how poorly they have fared in the past there, and ever since the BCS cartel was set up to keep the BCS from playing great outside teams. So I apologize that BYU has had to rely on MWC teams to gain prominence, only for us to knock you down: such are the breaks of the system.
Fact is, BYU is the team to beat in the MWC, or better stated, the team that has been beating everyone in the MWC (Not smack talk). Keep it up, Cougs!
As long as BYU keeps beating the MWC, teams should be afraid. But I suppose, as long as teams keep losing to BYU, BYU really doesn't have to care whether or not BYU strikes fear into an unsuspecting opponent.
Take a lesson from "50 year utes fan," though; smart fans realize that BYU, Utah, & TCU are not easy teams for anyone to schedule right now. MWC teams just don't have the luxury of dodging these three powerhouses, or they might. I'm not sure how good a lot of teams are in the nation, but I know that the so-called elite programs have scheduled less games in Provo given how poorly they have fared in the past there, and ever since the BCS cartel was set up to keep the BCS from playing great outside teams. So I apologize that BYU has had to rely on MWC teams to gain prominence, only for us to knock you down: such are the breaks of the system.
Fact is, BYU is the team to beat in the MWC, or better stated, the team that has been beating everyone in the MWC (Not smack talk). Keep it up, Cougs!
Anonymous | 10:57 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
re: I love Halloween | 7:14 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
I thought horned frogs were poisonous. Enjoy!!
I thought horned frogs were poisonous. Enjoy!!
JS | 10:57 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
I hope that BYU and UT are both undefeated in Nov when they meet. It will be a
great game. If BYU wants to move up in the polls they need to beat TCU
convincingly 35-7. We all know how bad OU beat TCU. BYU has the offense to
make it happen and shouldn't have much problem with the TCU offense. Utah
needs to keeping winning no matter what it takes. I don't particularly
like their offense, but they ARE winning. Best of luck to both teams.
TCU | 11:03 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
This TCU team is tough...In the OU game, they shut down the Sooners'
rushing game completely and were beaten 35-10 only because: (1) TCU coughed up
3-4 turnovers; and (b) TCU gave up 4 long pass plays due to its aggressive,
high-risk/high-reward defense. Depending on variables like location, TCU could
beat OU 50% of the time....Because TCU's new QB is geared toward running, I
see a low-scoring game....21-17...have no idea who will win but hope it's
the Cougs...
re:why we'll win | 11:03 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Patterson's ego? see Bronco Mendenhall
Al | 11:08 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
If BYU plays like they did in their last two games, they will have a
disappointing loss. I agree, Hall (hence the coaches) should spread the ball
around. Recently, I've seen him looking in only one direction in most of
the passes - which means he is tracking and trying to lock on to one receiver
(mostly Collie). He should stand back and scan the field more. Good Luck! GO
COUGS!!!
re: TCU | 10:51 a.m. | 11:10 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Thursday game so our weekly post predicting the demise of all things blue has
arrived.
Some game this century, he's bound to be right -- after all, even a broken clock occassionally shows the correct time.
TCU will be the toughest opponent BYU has played; the game will be hard fought. But, in the end, BYU will win.
Some game this century, he's bound to be right -- after all, even a broken clock occassionally shows the correct time.
TCU will be the toughest opponent BYU has played; the game will be hard fought. But, in the end, BYU will win.
Ute in SF | 11:15 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Don't blow it!
YA ALL | 11:26 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Howdy fans. I luv ya alls enthusiaaasm. We hear in Texas luv hour football
teams. Get redee for a beetin on saterday. Go TCU
BLOODsBLUE | 11:26 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
The coogs know how big this game is. Bronco has been holding back the past few
games. TCU doesn't know what's about to hit 'em. Fully expect a
whoopin' of the horny toads. Then its all downhill from there - with one
minor bump in the road near the end of Nov. Then it's BCS time for BYU,
baby!!
Hummmm | 11:28 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Lame comeback. You think USC is a bad team? OK. Wouldn't even be a
contest at LES. USC has more talent riding the bench than BYU has on the field.
Get real with your comments.
afrank | 11:31 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Just watch. If BYU beats TCU, TCU will instantly be considered a really bad
football team in the media, and BYU will still have no wins against quality
opponents.
BYU Fascination | 11:35 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
All of you Utes are so focused on the BYU-TCU game.
I remember last year about this time Utes were focused on the BYU game. They got beat by UNLV and AFA.
Hey, at least they are Bowl eligible, and will get an invite to some third rate Bowl, third rate opponent, and keep the bowl streak alive, missing again a chance to play a quality opponent in their bowl game.
I remember last year about this time Utes were focused on the BYU game. They got beat by UNLV and AFA.
Hey, at least they are Bowl eligible, and will get an invite to some third rate Bowl, third rate opponent, and keep the bowl streak alive, missing again a chance to play a quality opponent in their bowl game.
This is great | 11:44 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
If refs are the reason BYU has won all there games, why can't someone name
a game this season where BYU has even trailed in the fourth quarter?
Nevermind. Don't try to explain. Washington sounded stupid with their complaints. New Mexico sounded even worse, having lost by three scores. And you can't sound any better than they did, regarding games that haven't even been played yet. Please!
Frankly, anyone who thinks talk off the field means more than beatings suffered on the field is full of wishful thinking. I'll watch the actual where BYU remains an undefeated top ten team. I'm loving reality. I'm sorry if you actually believe yourself when you think BYU is in lala land. Hahahaha, you're killing me, no not literally.
Nevermind. Don't try to explain. Washington sounded stupid with their complaints. New Mexico sounded even worse, having lost by three scores. And you can't sound any better than they did, regarding games that haven't even been played yet. Please!
Frankly, anyone who thinks talk off the field means more than beatings suffered on the field is full of wishful thinking. I'll watch the actual where BYU remains an undefeated top ten team. I'm loving reality. I'm sorry if you actually believe yourself when you think BYU is in lala land. Hahahaha, you're killing me, no not literally.
Ello | 11:47 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
As much as dislike the BYU fans, I am going to hope for a BYU win this Thursday.
The Utes need the strength of schedule.
I do not get why BYU/Utah fans talk so much trash about who is better. It is obvious that we will see in November, until then we should just keep our mouths shut so we do not look stupid the the national media that the state is drawing.
I do not get why BYU/Utah fans talk so much trash about who is better. It is obvious that we will see in November, until then we should just keep our mouths shut so we do not look stupid the the national media that the state is drawing.
To: BYU Fascination | 11:49 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
UNLV and AFA going to beat us? Ummmm I hate to break the news to you but we are
just better than you. So we will be going to the Vegas Bowl while your off to
the Alpo bowl in Waco Texas
byu fan | 11:52 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
byu is da bomb.
USC | 11:56 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
isn't a bad team, just over-rated.
The Trojans could bring all the talent they want to LES or RES, but it wouldn't any easier for them to beat BYU or Utah on their home turf, than it has been for the Trojans to beat Oregon State on the Beavers home turf.
USC will have to play their best to finish the regular season without another loss, and that, in a conference that isn't as good as the MWC this season.
The Trojans could bring all the talent they want to LES or RES, but it wouldn't any easier for them to beat BYU or Utah on their home turf, than it has been for the Trojans to beat Oregon State on the Beavers home turf.
USC will have to play their best to finish the regular season without another loss, and that, in a conference that isn't as good as the MWC this season.
re forget it | 12:01 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
No. The strength of schedule wont even out, it stays the same. Wait and see who
is ahead of who in the first BCS ranking. I'll give you a hint okay? Its
the red team.
UCLA? HAHAHAHAHAHA and ha and ha and ha.
UCLA? HAHAHAHAHAHA and ha and ha and ha.
magnus | 12:02 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
my favorite quote of the article
"I would think that they are average and wonder how they are keeping the points off the board." - Bronco Mendenhal, talking about hiw OWN defense.
The article is right about the BYU D, they have not been tested, not even close to a test. They have not played a decent offense yet. That is a scary thing for us cougar fans.
I'm exited for this game, I really am. This game will be all about turnovers.
TCU and BYU have two of the best turnover margins in the nation but they have done it in different ways.
BYU is #2 in the nation in fumbles recovered and TCU is #8 in passes intercepted.
BYU is #9 in the nation in passing and TCU is #13 in the nation in rushing.
TCU leads the Nation in Sacks and BYU has only allowed 2 all season.
What you have here is strength against strength. These teams matchup very well, it should be a great game.
"I would think that they are average and wonder how they are keeping the points off the board." - Bronco Mendenhal, talking about hiw OWN defense.
The article is right about the BYU D, they have not been tested, not even close to a test. They have not played a decent offense yet. That is a scary thing for us cougar fans.
I'm exited for this game, I really am. This game will be all about turnovers.
TCU and BYU have two of the best turnover margins in the nation but they have done it in different ways.
BYU is #2 in the nation in fumbles recovered and TCU is #8 in passes intercepted.
BYU is #9 in the nation in passing and TCU is #13 in the nation in rushing.
TCU leads the Nation in Sacks and BYU has only allowed 2 all season.
What you have here is strength against strength. These teams matchup very well, it should be a great game.
CraigP | 12:04 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
The article talked about dashing dreams at TCU. Apparently there are a lot of
people coming to see if that's going to be true for the Cougars.
There's an interesting article in the Dallas Star-Telegram about how full
the pressbox is going to be for this one.
"As of Monday evening, 10 NFL teams and four bowl games (none BCS) have requested credentials. Also, writers from the New York Times, Sporting News, CBS Sportsline, ESPN.com and Yahoo Sports will all be in attendance as well as two photographers from Sports Illustrated."
Here's to hoping for another 31-17 win on the road for the Boys in Blue!
"As of Monday evening, 10 NFL teams and four bowl games (none BCS) have requested credentials. Also, writers from the New York Times, Sporting News, CBS Sportsline, ESPN.com and Yahoo Sports will all be in attendance as well as two photographers from Sports Illustrated."
Here's to hoping for another 31-17 win on the road for the Boys in Blue!
OKC Cougar | 12:30 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Fascinating to read all the hopes/delusions/fantasies/hatred/comedy (Ernest T)
etc on these comment boards. Only a handful are based on any sort of reality.
Especially appreciate voices of reason eg. Utah fan for 50 yrs
Bottom line is: Everything is hypothetical until we play the game Thursday evening. BYU must bring it's "A" game if they expect to win on the road in Fort Worth. Anything like how they played against USU or UNM will probably result in a disappointing BCS hope crushing defeat.
We will be there en masse Thursday night and fully expect that 1/4 to 1/3 of the crowd will be cheering for BYU. Anywhere BYU plays typically brings out a contingent of local LDS and BYU fans numbering in the thousands. A few years ago when BYU played SMU in the Cotton Bowl-more than half the crowd of 21,000 or so were BYU fans. At venues such as Notre Dame or UCLA last year or Washington this year-there are almost always 15,000-25,000 very vocal BYU fans. Expect the same thing when we travel to Florida State next season.
Go Cougs!!
Bottom line is: Everything is hypothetical until we play the game Thursday evening. BYU must bring it's "A" game if they expect to win on the road in Fort Worth. Anything like how they played against USU or UNM will probably result in a disappointing BCS hope crushing defeat.
We will be there en masse Thursday night and fully expect that 1/4 to 1/3 of the crowd will be cheering for BYU. Anywhere BYU plays typically brings out a contingent of local LDS and BYU fans numbering in the thousands. A few years ago when BYU played SMU in the Cotton Bowl-more than half the crowd of 21,000 or so were BYU fans. At venues such as Notre Dame or UCLA last year or Washington this year-there are almost always 15,000-25,000 very vocal BYU fans. Expect the same thing when we travel to Florida State next season.
Go Cougs!!
Ute Alum, Football Fan | 12:33 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Reading all the comments is very entertaining, but most of you folks are missing
the central point: we need to build respect for our conference. The only way to
build respect is to beat the other guys; therefore, our job is to root for MWC
teams when they play non-conference oppos. I have no trouble cheering for Utah,
BYU, USU, or even Weber State and SUU (and yes, I include poor stepchild Dixie
State, my son goes there). When it comes down to the GAME, then root for the the
team who will benefit most from the win. When other conferences flinch from
playing MWC teams, THEN you can make your goofy anti-Red anti-Blue comments.
Until then, GO MWC SPORTS!
re: re forget it | 12:42 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Obviously, you never studied math:
If 8/11 of a mass of two objects is identical and 3/11 is only marginally different, the overall mass of both objects will be:
a) the same
b) almost the same
c) marginally different
d) very different
If 8/11 of a mass of two objects is identical and 3/11 is only marginally different, the overall mass of both objects will be:
a) the same
b) almost the same
c) marginally different
d) very different
Anonymous | 12:43 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
"To: BYU Fascination | 11:49 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
UNLV and AFA going to beat us? Ummmm I hate to break the news to you but we are just better than you. So we will be going to the Vegas Bowl while your off to the Alpo bowl in Waco Texas"...
Ummmmm. Aren't you playing CSU this weekend, and the Ute don't care.
Ute fans need to get their heads out of Provo and worry about taking care of business, unlike last year, because to this point, you are the defending 3rd place team from the MWC, with two straight losses to BYU. This is the same talk as the last two years, but your team doesn't keep the focus on their game. However you can twist that into the aplpo bowl is fine, but these are the facts.
Without the Utes, I would have missed a ton of ads on cranberries, almonds and other unknown fruits and legumes.
UNLV and AFA going to beat us? Ummmm I hate to break the news to you but we are just better than you. So we will be going to the Vegas Bowl while your off to the Alpo bowl in Waco Texas"...
Ummmmm. Aren't you playing CSU this weekend, and the Ute don't care.
Ute fans need to get their heads out of Provo and worry about taking care of business, unlike last year, because to this point, you are the defending 3rd place team from the MWC, with two straight losses to BYU. This is the same talk as the last two years, but your team doesn't keep the focus on their game. However you can twist that into the aplpo bowl is fine, but these are the facts.
Without the Utes, I would have missed a ton of ads on cranberries, almonds and other unknown fruits and legumes.
Oddman | 12:54 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Don't you love college football? From years of watching it is apparent
that the difference between a win and a loss depends on the players, however
there are so many intangibles that the outcome is always in question. The
difference between a team with a losing record and one with a winning record
depends on factors beyond the athleticism of the individuals. This will be an
exciting game to watch because the predictors are nearly equal on either side of
the line.
BYU Fascination | 12:56 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
to:To: BYU Fascination | 11:49 a.m.
So, you didn't lose to AFA and UNLV last year while planning the drubbing of the eventual undefeated MWC, two years running. Third place is what happens when you are obsessed with the better team.
If only I had the intelligence of a Ute Fan, I could go buy one of them there red sweatshirts just like urban told us to and begin creating a history in my own mind about how good we are.
Win out, play someone good in a bowl for a change, get your basketball team out of the BCI and into the NIT, and quit your obsession about BYU.
Ute fans are the stalkers of the BYU program, and in the real world, we would have to put a restraing order on you kids.
So, you didn't lose to AFA and UNLV last year while planning the drubbing of the eventual undefeated MWC, two years running. Third place is what happens when you are obsessed with the better team.
If only I had the intelligence of a Ute Fan, I could go buy one of them there red sweatshirts just like urban told us to and begin creating a history in my own mind about how good we are.
Win out, play someone good in a bowl for a change, get your basketball team out of the BCI and into the NIT, and quit your obsession about BYU.
Ute fans are the stalkers of the BYU program, and in the real world, we would have to put a restraing order on you kids.
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