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BYU football: Cougars gear up for short week
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Let's break it down so even a BYU fan can understand it...
For laughs, Eliminate the MWC & Utah St from the schedules of the U & Y. Michigan > UCLA, Ore St > Washington, Weber = N Iowa. Advantage: U
Adding the Aggie Game; Utah beat USU by more than the Y did.
Lets consider the MWC now (to date): Utah 3-0 & BYU 2-0
So bender, you're thinking that Mich is better that UCLA still after losing 13-10 to Toledo (the same team that was giving up >35 points a game before Michigan)?
And if you want to continue with comparisons, how about Wyoming- who scored their first touchdown of conference play Saturday (against your beloved utes), and who outgained the utes also. Even with your starters in the game through 3+ quarters and you only got to 40 points because of a muffed punt.
I think that the evidence is clear. BYU is better than utah (and not just in football, women's soccer=5-0 shutout).
Go COUGARS!
You got one already (we had a short week.... um so did TCU people)
Thanks
Lenny
Do you people have any identity of your own? Is your entire self esteem based on whether or not your team wins a game. I'm talking about guys who most of you have probably never met. They just happen to go the same college as you went to. This is really sad.
Having said that, I'm a Cougar and I hope they win. I also think it's a good thing for the Church when the BYU football team get's positive national attention. But, my self-esteem will not suffer one iota if they don't win. I also don't hate any other team just because they happen to attend another university.
Honestly, people--GROW UP!
To Cats,
You are the one reading the blogs. Good rant. If you dont like it, dont read it. Leave those of us that enjoy trash talking alone. We enjoy it. The games will be played, we will talk trash, complain, etc., and then we will wait for next season and do it again.
"Judge not that ye might be judged."
But Utah beat UNLV who beat Arizona State who beat Stanford who beat Washington by seven points, and BYU only beat Washington by one point, so Utah is better than BYU!
But Stanford beat Oregon State who beat USC who beat Arizona State who beat Stanford so Stanford is better than Stanford!
...It doesn't matter who beat who on what day. All these comparisons on these blogs are beyond pointless. Different teams match up better or worse in certain games, get up for big games, or have off weeks. There's only one way to know if Team A is better than team B. By playing each other. Everything else is pointless nebulous conception.
Bottom line, BYU and Utah are two great teams. The game will be close, like it has been traditionally. No blog is going to decide who's better.
However, BYU has been the receipiant of many calls like these going against them in past years. No naysayers ever seem to remember that stuff. So things balance out over time.
As to the NM call, same thing. Bad call but nothing happened that made that a loss for the NM team.
Cats, you don't get on these blogs often do you? I think that most of these bloggers don't get their self-esteem from the team they root for. Keep in mind that for myself and many others this is strictly entertainment. My life does not revolve around who wins or loses. If I had to choose between a win and my profession, I would take my job. Who wouldn't? So, I guess I agree with you, but you need to remember this is all in good fun for most of us.
The Frog fans think the Frogs are better,
The Cougar fans think the Cougars are better,
I know, lets just settle the whole thing with a vote!
No, wait, that would make us the BCS. We'd better just play each other.
'nuf said.
'nuf said.
The key words are "ran by the BCS". The BCS will do anything to keep the MWC or any other worthy teams out of their party. I don't know which team you support, but BYU, Utah, or TCU would have a grand time in the ACC, or Big East, and even the Pac-10 this year.
The BCS posers just won't play schools from the MWC anymore. Who wants to look bad in front of a national audience with all the $$$$ and recruits watching? The time is coming when BCS schools will get beaten on a regular basis, and the quality of talent continues to deteriorate on the BCS teams.
1. If Mizzou upsets Texas, BYU goes down in the polls. Texas wins, no change.
2. If Ole Miss beats Bama, BYU temporarily moves up, most likely.
3. Penn State will not lose to Michigan. No change.
4. If Kansas upsets Oklahoma, BYU moves up. Oklahoma wins (85% likely) no change.
5. Florida, USC, Texas Tech and OK State all romp this week. Very slim chance one of them is upset. If any of their pathetic opponents pull an upset, BYU moves up. Highly unlikely.
6. If Georgia whips #22 Vandy, they may overtake even a victorious BYU if the win in Ft. Worth is underwhelming.
7. Given the Big Ten bias of the poll voters, if Ohio State manages to beat up Sparty in East Lansing, they would probably leapfrog BYU even though they don't deserve to. That's polling reality.
8. LSU will not overtake BYU this week by beating SCarolina, but will roar past next week with a win over Georgia.
If BYU wins Thursday, that is this week's poll scenario. If they lose...
See you next week.
You live in Washington--if you were a crimson and gray Coug you'd notice how obnoxious the Husky fans are too.
The reason your comparison is invalid is because you are no longer in Utah and thus have precious few Ute fans to compare these "obnoxious" BYU fans to. It's the same here in PA. Quite a few BYU fans, but only the rarest Ute to be found. Since Utes number so few outside Utah, they tend to be a bit quieter around their friends who are BYU fans. Silence equals lack of obnoxiousness.
Hence, outside his element, the Ute fan seems quite a reasonable fellow. Put him inside the state of Utah and the situation changes dramatically. I did my time there. Dad's a Cougar, mom's a Ute. And I noticed that within the state of Utah, where Ute fans enjoy a comforting majority status, they are far more obnoxious, rude, profane, obscene, angry, hateful, spiteful and otherwise downright mean as compared to BYU fans.
Just the facts.
Anyways, I'm glad to see that the coaches don't dissect film for their players, but let them squander their worthless hours deciding what they should be looking at. DVDs to all the players? A real coach would analyze the film first or atleast along with the players and show them the weaknesses to exploit, strengths to defend against etc.
This coaching staff makes me more and more upset and it's obvious they can't interpret game film very well based on their game plan for New Mexico. Had they used the running backs correctly, it would have been another blow out. Oh well, we will lose our perfect season soon enough. Lets hope we hold on atleast one more week.
To Harvey Unga:
The real football fans know you are the true heart of this team and that without your heroics, we would not be undefeated this season. Please be patient and if the coaches don't realize what they have with you, please transfer to another school. Any school in the nation would give two scholarships to have you as their starting back.
#1: Will BYU ever move up in the polls? If BYU keeps winning and teams ranked above them lose, BYU moves up! Same with Utah. The conference doesn't matter much.
#2:Is BYU good or lucky? BYU has a better offense than any team in the MWC. Offense=A. The defense is a B+. Special teams is a C. Coaching gets an A also.
#3: Who will win this game Thursday? TCU will be conservative in play calling, BYU should not be ultra conservative on either side of the ball--blitz the QB and on offense BYU needs to run the ball just enough to loosen up the pass defense. BYU cannot become one dementional on offense. Turn overs and special teams will play a big role in deciding this game. Low scoring game would favor TCU greatly. BYU needs score early.
This is my report!
Give me a break! You're probably the same lamos that booed Bronco for not going for it on 4th down!
Go Cougars!
"Yeah you must be a huge fan, seeing as how 4th and 18, and Harline open in the endzone were plays that were a year apart. Congrats on your Institute Degree.
'nuf said."
I'm just trying to figure out how you got that they were not a year apart from Urroner's original post. Do you follow college football? Do you understand that the two terms have evolved to embody Utah's weak defense a huge moments in a game, and BYU's ability to make the big plays against the little Utes to get the "W" over the past two years?
Institute degree? Congrats on never passing the GED there, little bro.
"'nuf said"
FYI: Because their flight was delayed while on their way to visit BYU's BCS opponent. And since the utes can't sell out their home games (accept for BYU, go figure that one) it was an easy, CHEAP ticket to that game.
Uhhhhhhhh, because they didn't.
What a troll.
Why the Fiesta & Insight Bowls have been to a Utes game? Who has visited a BYU game? The Independence? The Sun?"
Easy. BCS Bowls always go and vist the #14th ranked team in the country at the midpoint of the season. They have also visited USU, Weber State, Albertson's college in Idaho, and even colleges without football teams, because all of these college teams are headed directly to the BCS Bowl.
There is also talk in football circles of having the Ute football team play the winner of the Super Bowl, The World Series, the NBA Finals, all combined with Mike Ditka to decide who is the BEST.
(Maybe that will get rid of them).
offenses like BYU. BYU will be 2nd best Defense TCU
has seen this season period.
Our family is from the Dallas area and they
are saying after OU this is the game they are
most worried about.
Not as close as many may think though.
45-21
17 straight.
TCU also just had a mediocre showing against Colorado State. If BYU's team shows up that played against UCLA, we should handle them, uh, handedly.
Last point, I hope the coaching staff has been saving up a lil' sumthin' for bigger games. We threw many different looks offensively at UCLA, but not nearly as much in the last two games. I have never seen BYU's defense, never, as good as it was against UCLA--Hard hitting, fast, incredible. You can't say it was just a weak UCLA. If BYU's defense could keep that up, I don't know who could stop us. I hope the coaching staff can keep pulling that kind of effort out of the team. Go Cougs.
The NCAA and Univ Presidents domn't care about the players, the "student"-athletes....
if they did they wouldn't have them missing 2 to 3 days of school just to play a game for TV.
Expcept for the MONEY..... So with this fact in place, start PAYING the athletes and call them something other than student-athletes....
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As for UNM, it was a fairly weak call, but when the game ends up 21-3 you can't say that that call affected the outcome (the final score maybe, but not the outcome). And if you want to point out bad calls, there was a horrible call right before the end of the first half that cost BYU a good chance at a score or the game wouldn't have been that close. Austin Collie called for offensive PI when the defender stumbled on his own was a horrible call).
The utes got more than their share of breaks when they got past OSU with a questionable, at best, call on the 2-point conversion.
Be as jealous as you want utes, we'll-find-out-in-1 1/2-months.