Agree | 12:15 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
Good article, Collie is the real deal, wouldn't be surprised to see him playing on Sunday in a couple of years. It's amazing how he is always getting behind the DB's...just like 4 and 18....Go Cougs
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az coug | 12:54 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
It does not matter how fast Collie is if Max stares him down and forces passes to him exclusivly.

Thats waht I saw @ USU. Get the tightends going and
the WRs will come open naturally.

Don't relax Cougs.....another USU effort and the BCS is history...There is no doubt that USU was the best team the entire 4th quarter

New mexico is tough..If the Cougs don't jump in swinging it could be ugly.

BCS glory, money, recognition, future recruits for a decade, and a lot of "I told you so's" are on the line...

If we play perfectly with no mistakes with all our hearts, we might get there.

Buck up boys. Time to play smash-mouth football!!
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Shutout? | 4:09 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
Well said, AZ Coug. New Mexico is a tough team, but being back at home, I wouldn't be surprised to see BYU pitch another shutout. The Cougs are so dominant at home, there's no doubt in my mind we'll destroy them.
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Bob in line | 5:00 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
I agree with the AZ Coug.
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byudog | 5:49 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
Collie is the real deal.

I am very glad he is at BYU. Very talented WR.

The 40-time really doesn' matter that much. It doesn't make you a great football player or WR. All it makes you is having a label attached to your name saying you are so fast...

There are lots of fast guys out there, but there are not tons of extremely fast and talented footballers..

A 4.6 is not average speed btw... A 5.3 is about average speed for someone. A 4.6 is fast enough for college and when you throw in how precise Collie is with his routes and his pass catching abilities, you have a very good WR on your hands.

What coaches and NFL coaches should worry about is what was mentioned-how fast you are in pads. That is what matters-your 40-yard time in pads would be a better metric than simply a 40-yard dash.

Some guys have better explosive power, strength, and maybe better running mechanics in pads, than others. Collie is likely one of those guys.
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not sold | 5:52 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
sure, he is having a great career at the Y, but he has dropped too many catchable balls for me to put him on the list of my favorite Y receivers.
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Re: az coug | 6:18 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
Brilliant observation. Its obvious that Collie's horrible season is due to Max Hall staring him down. After all, he's only 7th in the nation when he should be first.
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Clayton Barnes | 6:43 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
I really like Max Hall but come on! I was a quarterback in highschool and all he needs is a ball thrown in his area which I could do easily. I love Max but I could easily play the QB position on this team.
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Speedy | 6:56 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
Interesting article on how slow Collie is. :)

BYU's bread and butter has always been the short- to mid-range passing game which relies primarily on receivers running precise patterns and being able to catch the ball.

Blazing speed is over-rated. It's fun to have a receiver who can blow by defenders, but the long, deep pass is a low percentage play that you're lucky if you can get it to work more than a couple times per game.

It's nice to have in the arsenal to keep defenses from stacking the shorter routes, but you can't rely on the long ball to move the ball consistently.

New Mexico will bring their pressure defense, with lots of blitzes. This will be a good test for the offensive line to see how well they can protect the quarterback. It'll also be good preparation for what BYU will be facing at TCU a week from today.

It probably won't be another shutout, but if the offense can avoid turnovers, especially in their own territory, BYU's defense will hold the Lobos in check.

BYU 45 NM 10
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BYU Receivers | 7:05 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
Name any BYU wide receivers that have been successful in the NFL. They are too slow at that level. They have done OK at tight end but not wide receiver.
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BYU Quarterbacks | 7:07 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
BYU has had a long line of great college quarterbacks but very few have succeeded at the Pro level. Wonder why?
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Reed | 7:17 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
Michael Reed, Mr. 3rd-down conversion, will be back this week. He's a great compliment to Collie, especially on 3rd down where defenses tend to double-team Collie, leaving Michael in single coverage.

Max does need to spread his passes around a little more to keep defenses guessing. BYU can get away with concentrating on two or three receivers against average defenses, but teams like TCU and Utah and whichever BCS team they end up playing, if the Cougars don't stumble, will be able to shut BYU's passing game down if Max doesn't concentrate more on picking up his 2nd and 3rd and 4th options instead of targetting his favorite receivers most of the time.
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Observant | 7:18 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
Having Mike Reed out has enabled defenses to put more coverage on Collie and Pitta. That won't be the case this Saturday. It appeared to me that Collie's biggest drop against USU was a case of trying to run before catching the ball. Like him personally or not he's a great athlete. He'll have many big games before his career at BYU is over. Don't forget how tough he is. He came back early form a stress fracture. I can't wait to see he and Reed playing together Sat.
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geezer | 7:29 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
RE; byu dog

I beg to differ. A 5.3 forty time might be "average" if you're a 400 lb. lineman. Most of your typical nerds (I was one of them) on the BYU campus can run a 5.3 forty. Take notice of the 40 teams of other quality division one teams. (Florida, Oklahoma, Utah etc..) 4.6 is not good for a good division one receiver.
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casual observation... | 7:29 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
It makes you wonder why there is even a 40 yard dash timed without pads on. Obviously football is played with pads and uniforms, but they are taken off to get a "40-speed". Why would you want to know how fast someone is without pads on? Someone needs to come along and measure the 40 speed with pads on, then the NFL might know what their doing when they draft.
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re: BYU Receivers | 7:41 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
John Golden Richards (born December 31, 1950 in Salt Lake City, Utah) is a former professional American football player who played wide receiver in the NFL for eight seasons for the Dallas Cowboys and the Chicago Bears. He caught a touchdown pass from Dallas running back Robert Newhouse in the Cowboys Super Bowl XII win over the Denver Broncos. He was known for his EXCELLENT SPEED and punt returning skills.
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David W. Spokane | 7:50 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
Golden Richards-Dallas Cowboys.
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Re: Clayton | 7:51 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
Let me guess, Clayton. You could throw a pigskin a quarter mile in '83?
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Horrible Story!!! | 7:53 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
I'm a huge BYU fan but this story was lame! How many times did they have to quote Collie about his speed? Makes him sound like a whiner. How many times did they have to mention track speed vs. game speeed?

They took a story you could crunch into a paragraph and stretched it like taffy. I was wondering if it would ever get good, then I just prayed for it to end.

Boring!

BYU 37 UNM 13
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On Deck | 7:57 a.m. Oct. 9, 2008
Todd Watkins first tried out for the Raiders in 2004, when he was a junior at Brigham Young. Not that he or the Raiders knew it at the time.

The "workout" came during BYU's game at USC, where Raiders Coach Lane Kiffin was serving as an assistant coach.

"He was all over the field, beat us on a deep ball," Kiffin recalled. "It was the ONLY DEEP BALL we gave up all year."

Todd is currently listed as the 2nd string WR for the Raiders. Just getting started on his NFL career, but he's in the NFL because of his SPEED.
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