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FLDS mom seeks sanctions against agency in Texas

I don't know what is worse in this case, the highly deceptive media constantly violating the truth and utterly failing at journalism or the government violating the Constitution. I suppose the latter, but then would it ever be allowed if the media actually reported?

This is just the first shot over the bow. If Texas loses, the state could see hundreds of such cases, and hundreds of millions in damages. And that would be justice.

It's about time. These corrupt agencies need to start acting with a little accountability toward the people. The hubris of an organization like CPS to snatch children without explanation, and use endless taxpayer dollars justifying their actions, should offend and rile anyone who sees what's happening.

It's about time that the worm turned.

All those monogamous families within the FLDS need to begin pressing charges for having their children kidnapped and held hostage until they, under duress, signed boilerplate service plans not pertinent to their particular families. It IS extreme duress when the freedom of your kidnapped children is held against you unless you agree to cooperate.

The FLDS certainly need to press for $$ for lawyers that they wouldn't have needed if allowed the Constitutinal right to live peacefully in their own homes without fear of illegal seizure of their children or property.

They need to sue to get their personal items back, too.

I hope every monogamous family follows suit and files a separate lawsuit for the pain and suffering of each child taken illegally into custody, and for each parent.

I hope there is a provision in the suit that covers payment for future counseling for parents/children because of this kidnapping event.

And I hope the FLDS win BIG TIME - again and again!
Once for each person that wrongfully suffered at the hands of CPS and Walther.

Texas - you've been Walthered!

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

I hope this suit opens the floodgate for suits from the other mothers.
A two year old boy being taken into care because he MAY grow up to be a pervert! The very idea!
GO FLDS MOM!

CPS was more than justified. This mother should be investigated for raising her child in a cult that is so dangerous to children. CPS's initial concern been validated by the numerous charges filed to date: to wit, that girls were groomed to be enslaved as children in sham marriages, and that boys were groomed to be their enslavers.

No one much is listening or pitying any of the flds mothers (using that word loosely) in light of the mountain of evidence that continues to pour out.

Anon - They were taking in "child brides" who later turned up to be of legal age. Many of whom were married monogomously (ie: no sister wives). By all means if there's an issue, the children should be protected, but these agencies need to do their homework first.

Anon- I wonder what will happen when the majority of people think that the way you raise your children MAY be harmful. Will they rip your family apart? I think the constitution was written to protect me from people like you!

Anonymous, please be careful in your use of the term "evidence." So far the ONLY evidence that has been produced by CPS that we, the general public, have seen is a couple of pictures of Warren Jeffs kissing a girl. Those pictures might be (are) gross and disgusting. But that is not a "mountain of evidence".

What we do see is a mountain of *allegations*. Allegations are not evidence nor are indictments. And indictment says that somebody made allegations to the grand jury, that the prosecution presented information (not evidence, it is not evidence until the opposing consul has an opportunity to question the validity of the information) and the grand jury decides there is enough possibility of a crime that a trial should take place.

What confuses this particular case even more is that there might be "evidence" that is determined to be inadmissible. If it is inadmissible, then regardless of how damning it might be, it can NOT be used.

Remember, BOTH parties are lying to us. Ether by omission or by intention. Until these cases come to court, there is very little, we the general public, actually know to be factual.

A great deal of the trouble could have been avoided if those involved had given honest, forthright answers instead of telling lies, changing their names, changing their birthdates, forgetting who their mothers were, forgetting which children were theirs, identifiying the fathers, etc. It is no wonder that CPS gave up and took them all in order to try to figure out what the truth was/is.

It's about time! CPS is not only a disgrace in Texas, but is an agency that has been found to be corrupt in nearly every state of the nation. They have become the American version of the KGB, taking prisoners with no legal justification, considering themselves above the laws of the land and destroying families on anonymous tips and the unsubstantiated word of informers. It's time someone forced CPS to follow the rules.

There is evidence all over the place, much of it has been recorded in affidavits, journals, and interviews with children, Where you been all this time???

HOW CAN ANYONE BE SO DOWN ON CPS, THEY ACTED ON TIPS, WHETHER PROVING TRUE OR NOT, THERE CONCERN IS THE CHILDREN, PERIOD. JUST THINK OF ALL THE CASES, YOU READ IN THE NEWS, FATHER DROWNS 3 CHILDREN, ETC. THEY HAVE TO CHECK ON THINGS TO SEEK ANSWERS AND THESE PEOPLE LIED TO THEM AND ACTED LIKE STUPID WOMEN, TO PROTECT THEIR "SO CALLED " HUSBANDS. I APPLAUDE THEM FOR TRYING.

Anon,
Is taking in everyone and sorting it out later the way you want our government agencies and justice system to function? Just "round up the usual suspects" no matter what the collateral damage. I would hope not. Why do you seem so ready to believe everything CPS tells you?

I just don't understand you people condoning the fact that the polygamists kept getting younger and younger wives. The proof is there. Unless, you are men who yearn to get by with this.

Where was the evidence against the 304 cases that have been dropped? What about what those parents and children went through while CPS did their thing. The Texas Supreme Court found that CPS and the court acted improperly. I don't claim that the FLDS are a perfect society, but I do insist that they as Americans have the same rights as the rest of us and the proper processes and letter of the laws should have been followed. I believe that when a good number of the issues at hand are removed from Walther's court and hit a higher court we will see a different story than the one being presented to the public by CPS.

As for the KGB reference, what do you call an agency that can in general, not just Texas, step in and remove your child on an anonymous call with no evidence of wrongdoing? I'm all for protecting children, but nation-wide statistics show that our children are in more danger from those who claim to be there to protect them. By removing all the children and not following their own rules, CPS caused harm. There is no justification for that.

Re: Curious,

I wish that you could come to our state that I live in, because the CPS isn't very good about checking out tips or complaints on children in real danger. I know of two children that have died from horrible crimes because of the parents of the children and CPS not doing their job after having several complaints about the children and their silbings being in poor condition. These complaints were from the school and neighbors. CPS of texas isn't all that good either, at least i think because they came by my sisters house to check on her. A neighbor that was selling avon called on her because she had 4 babies and three teens in the house by herself. The avon lady thought she was runnign a day care that was illegal. She had 7 kids but only one adult. The CPS came in and wanted proof of a day care liscnes. My sister told CPS that they were her kids and no day care was ran at her home. CPS wasn't buying it until my sister produced 4 birthcertificates that stated she had quads. CPS had backup ready to take her babies for no reason!

It is about time that the parents of those children get CPS in a court room.
SCOTEX, and the 5th US circuit have had their say and with luck have prevented a repeat of this CPS sideshow.
It is now time to punish the CPS zealots for removing 304 innocent children from their families and causeing financial and emotional hardship for theinnocent families.
A case and raid based on gossip in order to collect "evidence" that has only fueled the gossip that started this mess, has led to persons that were never at YFZ testifying against the only person now held by CPS.
Let some legal light be shed on the State of Texas and the extra-legal tactics used by State agencies and perhaps all of us will be protected from CPS and their tanks.
One picture of a man in prison with a 12 year old girl and diary ramblings of teens wanting to marry are nothing more than overreaction to a moot point and worrying about intentions that are teenage fantasy.
Everyone says prosecute the act.....where are 304 acts of illegal behavior......oh right....CPS now admits that there were none. Pay for the mistake!

//JUST THINK OF ALL THE CASES, YOU READ IN THE NEWS,//

How about the case of little Jessica Scoville of Georgia?

//I just don't understand you people condoning the fact that the polygamists kept getting younger and younger wives. //

Yep, they keep getting younger and younger wives all the time! Soon they'll be marrying fetuses.