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Utah Utes football: It took awhile, but U. finally gets its Key

No matter what you want to say about coach Whit, or my Utes, ya gotta admit, having a winning record against every team but Air force in the MWC isn't too shabby. GO UTES! Take Airforce apart this weekend!

Hopefully this guy can field a punt and not fumble it like the other 5 guys on Saturday. Now we just have to keep up the tough run D and shut down Air Force and go to 4-0!!!!! Go Utes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Air Force is the only MWC team that Utah has an overall losing record against. The Utes are 10-14 vs. the Falcons."

BYU is 22-6 vs AFA.

BYU is also 28-18 vs Utah (MWC/WAC)

since 1962 when both schools joined the WAC

(but, as Utah fans will quickly point out, just after the Fall of the Roman Empire, Utah used to dominate BYU back in the Skyline, Big 7, Rocky Mountain Conference era; raise your hand if you remember any of those conferences -- a bonus to anyone who can name the teams in those conferences without having to look them up; too bad 99% of Utah's fans have never even seen one of those games, even a grainy, black & white replay)

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I'm glad for Utah that Aiona finally made it to school; doesn't sound like he'll be much of an impact player this season.

Good luck at Air Force Utes!

So, what have you done for me lately??? If you are going to discount all of the years before the WAC conference, why are you including the WAC conference in your statistics? Wasn't that 10 years or so ago anyways? So, if you're going to conveniently discount all of the years that Utah was dominant, please don't include all of the past years that BYU was dominant. The MWC is the conference both teams play in currently, so lets stick to the present. I don't know what the record is during the MWC era, but I'd venture to guess that it is pretty darn close to even.

Hey, while your at it (adding all the glory years to your record against Utah), why don't you tell us all again how you won the National Championship in 1984.....that'd be a new one we've never heard before!!!

its true that it took byu from the start of the game of football until '72 to have a nice run during the lavell era ( most students at the y now still say "who?".) but things have been pretty even lately and
by the way how many bowl games has byu won since the lavell era. how many has utah won. just wondered.

Brigham Young vs
AFA -- 22-6-0 -- First 1956
CSU -- 36-27-3 -- 1922
NM -- 42-14-1 -- 1951
SDSU -- 24-7-1 -- 1947
TCU --- 5-2-0 -- 1987
UNLV -- 12-3-0 -- 1978
Utah -- 30-49-4 -- 1922 (not counting 1890s)
Wyo -- 39-30-3 -- 1922

University of Utah vs
AFA -- 10-14-0 -- First 1957
BYU -- 49-30-4 -- 1922 (not counting 1890s)
CSU -- 52-22-2 -- 1902
NM -- 30-17-2 -- 1938
SDSU -- 14-12-0 -- 1978
TCU --- 4-1-0 -- 1996
UNLV -- 12-2-0 -- 1979
Wyo -- 48-31-1 -- 1904

Just because some fans weren't born yet doesn't mean the wins don't count.

Notice how Old Man "Hmmmm" went back to the WAC numbers but no further. If you only count the present MWC era, Utah holds a 5-4 record over BYU.

Hmmmm I guess its not necessary to point out that Utah still maintains a winning record against BYU both modern day and, as Old Man Hmmmm said, "since just after the fall of the Roman Empire" at which time for the first 20 years we owned you with 20 consecutive victories. And like the article states, overall we still do.

Thanks Hmmmm for bringing that up.

The article didn't say anything about conference records it said overall records against MWC teams. As a typical BYU fan you only choose to remember what you want to, and I hardly doubt you were around to watch the games in the 60's. You just can't stand the fact that Utah leads the overall series. BYU has had great years, Utah has had great years, but only BYU fans somehow have selective amnesia.

With all students on the AF team, they will have to do their best to beat a team of, well......Utah student/athletes, tee, hee.

What does BYU's record vs Air Force have to do with this?

And by the way, it doesn't read that they have a winning record against all conference teams "while they have been in the same conference." Go back to your cougarboard.

"Whittingham said Key could play at receiver on a limited basis this week, but his best chance to play immediately could be at punt returner, where the Utes have struggled..."

I think this is a brilliant move by Coach Kyle. His guys that have been there all Summer and for the first 3 games can't handle catching a punt so YES why not have a guy who is out of shape, hasn't played in any games yet, and wasn't there for fall camp be their punt returner. This will no doubt catch everyone by surpirse and should not be a problem. And I know the guys who have worked so hard to be the punt returners will support Key and Kyle in this and their morale will be boosted higher.

Kyle is a GENIUS!

Yeah we know:

Football didn't start until 1972 for BYU football.

Utah still leads. It all still counts.

How about we go back just to the last 20?

That is the time Utah started to invest resources back to football again. That seems just as relevant as your time frame. Arnie Ferrin as AD let the football program tank in the 70's and 80's.

Utah 10- BYU 10
Utah goes one up after November 22nd.

Doesn't Key have to go through the NCAA mandatory 5 practices of no contact and no pads?

hmmmmm, I don't remember 1984 either (I'm too young), so by your logic it never happened.

Why is it that BYU fans think football played in 1975 matters but 1974 doesn't? Why put the cutoff there? Oh wait, I know why: Because BYU stunk to high heaven prior to that.

Since you want to forget the Skyline history, we can for get the WAC history. Remember the statement was AFA is the only school Utah has a losing record in MWC play. Since the MWC is now 10 years old we get to forget the WAC days since they are ancient history. 1984 was how many years ago!?

The utards can go back as far as they want to a time when baseball ruled and nobody really cared much about football and say dumb stuff about having the series lead all they want. And who cares except for a handful of utard fans.

What really matters is what is happening now. Bronco has rebuilt BYU's program into something that will exceed what LaVell did. He cares as much about molding the character of young men as he does about having a winning program. Kwhit only cares about getting big margins of victory against really weak teams as seen by his team's onside kicks and fake punts.

Was kwhit a bully in grade school?

Which team has gone undefeated in conference for 2 years straight?

Which coach is confident enough to declare a Quest for Perfection for his team?

Which coach tells the media it's really hard to go undefeated so a loss doesn't mean the end of your season and he seems to be ok with having a few losses each year?

Which team has won the MWC championship the past two years?

Which coach has his team ranked higher right now?

The mandatory period outlined by the NCAA goes away once school starts.

It's ironic that Utah has a winning record against every team in the MWC, except Air Force, and yet, Utah seldom wins conference championships.

Urban broke that tradition during his brief carpetbagging stay on the hill, but it looks like Kyle has brought Utah football back to that tradition. Kyle has lost at least as many conference games every year as Bronco has lost total.

Kyle's MWC record:
Overall - 14-10
2005 - 4-4 (4th place tie)
2006 - 5-3 (3rd)
2007 - 5-3 (3rd)

Bronco's MWC record:
Overall - 21-3
2005 - 5-3 (2nd place tie)
2006 - 8-0 (1st)
2007 - 8-0 (1st)

MWC record for both teams
BYU - 46-20 (4 championships)
Utah - 42-24 (3 championships)

2003-2004 was the first time Utah had won back-to-back conference championships in 50 years.

The last time Utah won back-to-back conference championships was 1951-1953, in the old Skyline Conference.

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Good luck to Utah at the Academy. Don't stumble. Cougar fans are hoping to meet an undefeated Utah team in November.

Let's refresh your memory. Who has already won back to back conference Championships? Who has already had a perfect season in the last 5 years? Who was the First BCS Busting team? I think you will find the answer is all the same. Keep telling yourself you are better than everyone else. If you don't believe it tear down everyone around you and step all over them. Good to hear you have good sound qualities that Bronco teaches all his team. Bronco and Kyle are both great men trying to make the programs better. Go Utes and Cougars