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BYU football: Big block for Cougars

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Mighty Cougs | 5:25 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
ECU is the non-BCS team that is going to be watched. Two solid, back-to-back wins against ranked BCS opponents.

Lou Holtz has a personal interest in bringing down BYU's win, as his son is the ECU coach. That being said a 24-3 win against a highly ranked BCS opponent will trump a 28-27 win against a troubled, losing BCS program amy day.

Right now the BCS gate crasher rankings would go this way:

ECU
Utah
Fresno State
Utah
CTMac | 5:44 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
What are all the BYU haters going to say after BYU beats UCLA. There is ALWAYS an excuse for them. BYU didn't play like they hoped, but a win is a win. I have no idea why Utha fans want BYU to be going into the BYU / Utah game any less than undefeated, becasue I think most BYU fans want Utah to be undefeated before the matchup. What better way to represent the MWC to have 2 BCS bowl contenders before the rivalry!
Va Coug | 5:46 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Bad defense? Wa passing performance was below average, rushing performance was below average, they punted 5 times to Byu's 2. I say being on the road and only allowing just over 300 yds total they did a decent job. Take away BYU's 2 turnovers and the final score is 42-28.
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Comment tally | 5:55 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
BYU article - 279
Utah article - 27

nuff said!
ron | 6:30 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
try running your tapes back to where there were 45 seconds left in the game. see what happens to number 77 on defense. that was happening all day to the cougars and nothing called. If the correct call was made on that play,(45 seconds left) and penalty affixed, the long pass that was completed on the sideline would have been erased and washington would have never reached the end zone. sorry mr. magoo. you lost this one. Just because the referee made the call, which was correct, according to the rules, doesn't make him the one at fault. stay cool man.
Calbear | 6:35 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
PAC-10 refs cheat Washington??????

We always get our own refs. Keeps our conference up.

Locker stupid play. Just like when he was checking his wrist band on the ground instead of jumping up and conserving precious clock time.

I'm not worried we'll crush UW.
Give It Up | 6:42 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Ref made the right call (for once in the game)...

He didn't lightly toss the ball over his shoulder (Mark May is such a dork for ranting about the poor call on ESPN). He emphatically hucked the ball in the air, and it didn't come down for several seconds. Lightly tossed over the shoulder? Pretty good hang time for a light toss...

Lastly, final plays/calls are never the reason a team wins or loses the game. It is the complete culmination of 60 minutes of play. If Washington wanted to win the game, they should have scored more points throughout the 60 minutes.
Yewt? | 6:47 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
What's a Yewt? Furthermore what's a Kooker?

Neither of those terms show up in my dictionary?
Definitely a Penalty | 6:59 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
I know for fact it was definitely a penalty.

If PAC-10 officials called it on a PAC-10 team playing a non PAC-10 team, is there even a question? They are the biggest homer refs I've ever seen. If they made the call, it was because they had no other choice.

Rather than ranting at the refs, perhaps the whiney Huskey fans should be ranting about an un-disciplined player that would celebrate in such a manner. Or even worse, an un-disciplined line who can't get a block when it matters most. This is why Coach Willingham will be unemployed before the season is over. Coaching is more than just making a play. It is about teaching the players to play appropriately. Two plays in a row they did not!
Husky Fan | 7:01 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Lets face it the coaching staff and quarterback blew it. Players should be coached not to throw the ball in the air after touchdowns. I have not seen ONE other example of this occurring other games. Why don't ESPN, Fox Sports, etc. show no calls when the ball is thrown in the air? Because players are coached NOT to do it and except for Husky "mange", they have not. Take responsibility for a screw up. Quit blaming the ref. Props go to the ref for avoiding another Oklahoma situation.
Texas Cougar | 7:19 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Anyone that says Washington is the worst team in the Pac-10 obviously didn't see the final to the Cal/Wazzou game:

Cal: 66
Washintgon State: 3

Washington looked like a team playing to salvage their coach's job. This loss will probably break them up mentally for the season.
Disappointed | 7:30 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
A fan of neither team, it's a shame we as observers were robbed of OT.
Scoreboard | 7:33 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
28-27...BYU wins. That's all that really matters, right? At least last time I checked, all that really matters is winning.

For those of you who say BYU "isn't" a top 25 team, you might want to check out the polls...oh, I guess you might want to check them again...BYU is ranked as a top 25 team in every single poll in the country. So, yes, they are a top 25 team even if you don't like it.

Was the unsportsman like conduct penalty a bad judgment call?...in my opinion, yes it was. It shouldn't have been called in that situation. Let them play and let them be excited. But it was called and UW had to deal with it.

Throughout the telecast, the announcers kept talking about how a "Pac 10 running back" or a "Pac 10 offensive line" or a "Pac 10 defense" should perform.

Guess what...a Pac 10 kicker should be able to make a PAT from 35 yards at home to put the game into OT. UW didn't execute enough.

Last time I checked team don't get extra bonus points for style...all that matters is the final score when the time runs out.

PAC 10 FAN | 7:42 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
You got to love those PAC 10 refs, because I sure do. They got Oregon a win against Oklahoma!!!
sob | 8:00 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
all these byu fans beating their chests ? "botttoom linnnee we wonnnnn" are a joke. They win as a result of probably the worst call of the year against a pac 10 bottom feeder, collie does score but spends the rest of the game proving he really IS a dog
and the d looks like they are in quick sand.
i assure you ucla is thinking about last year and watching this game is licking their chops
No Hose | 8:07 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
My, what skeptics. BYU is still a lousey team, will never be BCS worthy, WU was "hosed" (by their own conference's officials? Strange.) Of course, you experts also have your crystal balls going, predicting BYU's impending doom against the Bruins next week. Truth is, win or lose next week, Bronco Mendehall has a winning tradition going in the MWC, which is going to make many enemies of standard Cougar haters--by beating their teams!

And, yesterday's win goes into the record books--for all time, no matter the opinions! Deal with it.
Aggie Blue | 8:08 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
You Huskie whiners all need TIVO. QB threw the ball UP in the air. No spike. No over the back. UP.. IN.. THE.. AIR! Oh, yeah, and there's still that whole your kicker should be able to make a 35yrd PAT in his sleep thing.
Cats | 8:16 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
The penalty was NOT a judgement call. The official quoted chapter and verse on the rule and, it is very clear, that it was a correct call. It is sad that it turned out that way but throwing the ball up was a CLEAR violation of the rules.

BYU then BLOCKED the kick to win the game. The blocked kick had nothing to do with distance.

Sometimes victories aren't pretty. Sometimes things are a little messy, but there is no question that BYU won it FAIR AND SQUARE in an extremely hostile and difficult environment.

I agree that the defense has some work to do.

Eugene | 8:21 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Even being a Coug fan, I felt cheated for not seeing an overtime even though I felt relief at blocking the PAT and winning the game. Offense looks unstoppable for gaining yards, but seems to have a tough time getting in the endzone consistently. Other than the block, where was our defense? Time after time, they couldn't stop the ball or cause any turnovers. Our defenders started each play giving a buffer of up to 20 yards so it was no wonder the out pass plays worked for the Huskies. Tighten up, D, or the Quest is doomed!
Dewey | 8:27 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Amazing all the Ute fans that like to write about BYU, you are so busy blasting BYU's win you don't lift your heads up and praise your own team for another great win, dorks!
Just a Thought... | 8:29 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
If Washington DID make the PAT, would you hear anyone complaining about the unsportsmanlike conduct call against Washington?
From Texas | 8:29 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Locker would have been a handful for any team he played yesterday, pulling many rabbits out of his hat, maybe BYU is just slow.

BYU actually did a good job overcoming many momentum changing events (i.e. missed INT that would have gone for seven but ended up going for seven on the other end eventually, Unga fumble in the endzone, Washington player be carried off the field, and endless Locker plays that shifted momentum). I did not expect BYU to overcome all that.

Anybody watching the game would tell you that BYU is a very good team, clearly the better team. The offense is an absolute machine and would give any team all sorts of trouble, extremely efficient.

Hard to draw any conclusions about the defense because Locker is a beast and unique in his abilities.

The national media should not look down on the BYU victory, unless they only look at the score and last 15 seconds. BYU overcame huge momentum swings, won in a tough stadium, on the road, and clearly looked like the best team.

I doubt ESPN crew watched the entire game on a competitors network, so their observations came from a snapshot of the game.
dewey | 8:43 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Wow, all these Ute fans that like to write about BYU, great thanks for all the attention, but why don't you lift up your heads and write something good about your own team's great win!!
Sierra Blue | 8:49 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
You BYU haters are disgusting!! Forget your hate, bitterness and anger; look at some facts:

Rules are rules and violation of them effects the outcome of games.

The celebration penalty was actually the right call, it was only dramatic because of when it occurred. And is part of the game!

What is the difference if the NCAA changed the rules and said that all pass interference penalties would be enforced at the point of the foul, that would change the game. (BTW, that is the way it used to be until the NCAA changed it.) A team who committed a PI penalty late in the game deep in their own territory almost certainly would loose the game because of the field position given up as a result of the penalty. Yet those were the rules.

If you have a beef with the way this game ended, you should complain to the NCAA. Perhaps the rules need to be changed, but there was nothing inappropriate in that call being made when it was made.

Perhaps we should go back and change the record book and eliminate all the wins that occurred because of PI enforced at the foul spot?????

Make Sense?????
jstrong | 8:46 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Anyone hear that ty willingham said UW was goin for 2 had the penalty not been called? I read that somewhere, but if you watch the video, u can see him holding up 1 finger prior to seeing the flag. I just wanted a clarification. Was he lying? Its hard to believe he would have risked going for 2 with so much talk of his job being in jeopardy and stuff.
parker | 8:46 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
For those of you who think BYU played bad D they didn't!!!! In 1st half the huskies shouldn't have even scored on that long pass play they got lucky on a 3rd and 23 on their own 3 yard line. We played great D!
To sob | 8:52 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Worst call of the year? Granted, it was their option, as they so blatantly proved the other 59 mins and 58 secs, to actually throw a flag against UW, but there is no way anyone can argue there wasn't a clear violation of a very clearly written rule. You can argue the rule and how dumb it is, but you cannot argue the correct enforcement of it.

And that call didn't win us the game. 500 yards of offense did. 12 of 14 on third down did. 136 yards rushing by Unga did. 30 of 41 passing did. Zero sacks did. 10 catches for 148 yards by Pitta did. Making all four of our PAT's did. Scoring four TDS did.

Worst call of the year. It wasn't even the worst call (or more appropriately non-call) in the game, much less the day, and I guarantee that a correct enforcement of the rules will not be anywhere near the worst call of this still very young season.
Anonymous | 8:55 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
You can set your watch by fall football and the comment wars between BYU/UTAH fans. Everyone was ripped off in yesterday's game; the fans from both sides, both teams, millions of television viewers, even the referees whose integrity is in question. I'm thrilled BYU won, a win is a win, but it was a poorly called game. BYU is a great team. Also, Congratulations to UTAH, two fabulous wins and a great start to the season. I'm looking forward to the BYU/UTAH game this year.
Byu fan | 8:53 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
All you Utah fans keep talking about how we won by one against the bottom of the PAC 10, this is hard to understand coming from a team that lost to one of the worst team in the MWC. So before you start fripping on other take a look in the mirror. So what if you beat out of confrence team if you cant win the games in the confrence the out of confrence game will never help you get to were you think you should be. That includes beating the best team in the MWC BYU COUGERS.
ME | 8:59 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Hey all you that are bringing up the national media and how they believe that byu should drop. I don't see any of them claiming OSU should drop after eeking out a win over Ohio, no it only when a non bcs team barely wins or loses to a BCS team that the national media is all over them stating this is why they arn't BCS. This is the most monopolize business in the country. And if you don't think college football is a business then your wrong. Where were all the people calling for Michigan to be removed from the their BCS confrence after they lost to APP state last year. They just ignore it and keep on scheduling these cup cakes that help there record every year.
eros | 9:03 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
I'm sure someone has already said somthing about it. But it seems if that field goal isn't blocked that call isn't a big deal with everyone, that's with Washington winning. But because BYU wins a game every singal person on this planet will tell you it was a bad call. You but BYU on the other end all the sudden "it was the right call" Poor BYU they will never get a break from the ugly sports freak's out there. Let it go, you will live much longer!
U of U Alum | 9:09 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
I never got the impression BYU would lose this game. If not for an outstanding game by Jake Locker, UW would have never been in this game. The Cougars blocked the extra point, regardless of the call. End of story. Utah fans should not concern themselves with BYU, but rather their incredibly erratic, undisciplined Utes. If BYU and Utah were to play tomorrow, BYU wins by 24.
Team down south = luck | 9:07 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
What a joke, beating a BAD UW team, nothing to be proud of... especially when the refs give you the game. No better than Olympic Gymnastics, officials should never decide the outcome. btw, how does anyone know UW wasn't going to go for 2 and the win? By giving the penalty, the ref guaranteed UW one choice, PAT.
Dray | 9:18 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
The reason there are more comments for BYU is simple, the Utes beat UNLV easily, wasn't a very compelling game. Turn on a TV to any sports news show and they are talking about the flag on Jake Locker, the poll question on espn.com is about the flag(every state other than Utah agrees that the flag was bogus).

BYU won the game, but I don't think it will help them in the polls this week. ESPN is ripping the refs also. BYU didn't make the bad call, but they are the ones looking bad for the bad call, I don't think its fair to BYU.

But that being said, ECU is the non BCS school at the top of the list, Utah's college football fans need to hope the Pirates lose a game, otherwise they are going to get in the BCS game. BYU really needs to look impressive against UCLA to convince anyone they belong with the big boys.
What a sport | 9:24 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Isn't football great! What fun to be a fan and try to add positive momentum by yelling our guts out. Nothing like it.

It was great to get be there to say I was part of the win. It was just great. It's so nice to see the Cougars find a way to win a close one. Now as fans we have to get ready for next weeks game. Take lots of lemon for the voice, work out more so I can climb the grand stand and take my place cheering them on again. The fact is we have to take it a game at a time. We have to be ready. We can do it. Raw, raw, raw. Go cougars.
Rise and shout! | 9:24 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
BYU is not a top 25 team. They barely beat the worst Pac 10 team by a bad call. UCLA will beat them. You wait and see.
Anonymous | 9:27 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Isn't it amazing how many ute fans get on every BYU story. They even crowd the cougar website. I almost think they are still jelous of the success and recognition BYU gets. I know BYU has got hit with those celebration penalties many times. I agree with the comment mentioned already about the kicker got his kick blocked anyway. So if the kick was blocked, why are you still griping about this? As was mentioned, there were many times that penalties should have been called but weren't. Just like Utah played in the big house, BYU played in a very tough stadium to play also. Huskie stadium has always been described as a tough place to play. Also, when you play against a quarterback like Washington has, It is tough. You always have to be watching for his run. Against UCLA, it won't be as difficult, because UCLA doesn't have the Quarterback that Washington does. Good job BYU.
Hawk | 9:31 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
If the officials had called Washington for the late hits and offensive holding, BYU would have won by 2 TDs. Bad officiating? BYU got homered and still won. THe last call may have been picky, but it is the rule. Nice work Cougars. Yooties, go post on the UNLV story about beating a pathietic Rebel team. Did you try any on-side kicks in the last half?
The Truth | 9:35 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
There are more posts for BYU than U because BYU's game ended with controversy while Utah won easily.

The first comment on page 1 of this blog (WAAA) shows why Cougar fans are hated around the nation - poor losers and even worse winners. You dodged a bullet, be grateful.

BYU's schedule is not BCS-worthy. If you can't admit that, you don't know football. Utah's schedule is also easy.

BYU will surely drop in the polls. A 1-point win over a weak team is going to cost them, plain and simple.

Holds occur on every offensive play. Flags are thrown when a hold obviously affects a play. BYU did not have an answer for Locker - he was too fast and too strong. BYU's saving grace was Locker over throwing wide-open receivers.

The player of the game was Dennis Pitta. UW could not contain him. Unga was OK, but like Locker, made a key mistake that could have cost his team the game. Collie was horrible.

BYU's linebackers and DB's were almost always out of place and even their middle LB's were no match physically for UW's sophomore QB.

That's not hating, it's the truth.
Winning Again | 9:38 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
So we tell our kids when we coach that we win as a team and we lose as a team and good teams don't let the refs decide the outcome.But all these cougar haters ( I mean ute "fans") say the refs gave the game to BYU. Sure it was a pretty weak call but they made some pretty weak calls all game long, on both sides of the ball. I'm sure Jan Jorgensen is still looking for the train that hit him when the play was over or Ian Doolan is still picking pieces of his jersey that were torn off while he was being held. But you play through the crappy calls and you win or lose as a team not because of the calls. Or do we tell our kids we coach sometimes the refs decide the game. Only when BYU wins Right! 28 -27 game over
Wow! | 9:36 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
I do not think you zoobies are living a good enough life, or your team is not as good as you thought it was. 1 Point victory over a 9th place team in that conference. You need to stop embarrasing your selfes by shhhhhhhhhh!
ECU will make it over the cougs | 9:37 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
The way BYU has played hasn't impressed anybody. Their offensive line better take some long chair and sun tan lotion out on the field with them because they will never get past the 50 yard line against UCLA. I'm almost certain that BYU will not be rolling into the postseason with a 12-0 record.
McKay | 9:48 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
BYU can't win even when they win. BYU completely dominates the Utes last year (statistic wise) yet all the haters call it a "lucky win", BYU blocked a last second field goal in what may have been the ugliest game ever played against UCLA, and now they blocked the extra point against UW and it's a lucky win because of a silly rule in football. At what point are you haters going to give the Y any credit for winning 12 straight and counting??? My guess is never.. Funny thing is that that Husky team was every bit as good as Michigan, just with a far better quarterback yet the school on the hill is claiming that as your greatest win ever..
IKnowMaxHallIsTrue | 9:51 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
I know Max Hall is true.
Vegas Ed | 9:53 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
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Vegas Ed | 10:01 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
30 seconds left, 2nd and 19, major hold not called, and no one is mentioning how the refs blew that call. BYU's play by play Wrubel just about had a cow screaming on the radio. Here in Vegas I listened to the radio, and watched on TV with the sound down. After the non-called hold, the Pac-10 honks on TV didn't mention the non-calls, and said the ball was just thrown over his shoulder. IT WENT 20 YARDS IN THE AIR. THATS THE REASON IT WAS CALLED.
Kitty Litter | 10:00 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Kittens got lucky again with a little help from the refs as always. Happy Valley can think what they want, but read what the rest of the nation says about the kittens on real news like espn and cnn.
Aggies? | 10:00 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
This article is about BYU and Washington. LEAVE THE AGGIES OUT OF IT!
BlueBoy | 10:01 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
Finally we get a road win against a BCS team! Nice!

Now, to keep UCLA from spoiling the party at our place this Saturday. After UCLA's upset win in their first game, they might be a much better coached team than the one we played twice last year. If so, Saturday's home game could be very disappointing.

I'm rather disappointed in BYU's coaches' inability to adjust during a game. They never concentrated on stopping Locker (running or passing), nor did they place Collie on the other side of the field when the sun was in his eyes, which seemed to have a lot to do with his missed receptions in the first half. Why throw to a receiver that's blinded by the sun? Silly.

If BYU doesn't make major strides between weeks 2 and 3, the kind that are touted to be normally made between weeks 1 and 2, this Saturday could be a major disappointment for BYU fans. Let's hope Bronco meant what he said by having more to work with in improving the team. He seemed pleased with some things, but indicated that there were corrections to be made. Let's hope they're the right ones!
sowbelly | 10:09 a.m. Sept. 7, 2008
if "if's" and "but's" were "candy" and "nuts" - Boy! - what a Christmas we would have had.

he said - they said - she said - we said - guess what? BYU won - simply one can ascertain this fact by observing the END SCORE...The End.

The rest is just white noise...............

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