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FLDS teen's lawyer stays, judge says

Just the way it should have been all along. The FLDS is not all powerful, and are finally beginning to realize that.

Excellent. The girl will not be represented by the lawyers of her abusers. Thank you, Ms Walther.

So Walthers thinks the best choice for attorney is someone who publically speculates about her sexual activities and threatened to have Teresa put back in foster care if she didn't stop criticizing her. Real smart. But predictable.

Get real - there are lots of other attorneys she could have appointed, like the ones who were assigned to the rest of the children. Why is it so important she be stuck with this drama queen?

Anti-polygamists use the dangerous word ABSOLUTELY.


Absolutely is a DANGEROUS WORD used by anti-polygamists in every opportunity.

48 percent...thats coming from Angie Voss! thats only if you include 38 year old disputed teenagers

I can see why the girl would want another lawyer,if she wants to continue a FLDS life. This article states that her lawyer said if she visited home, had contact with her dad and did other things, she could be in great danger. But, sooner or later folks, she will be 18 ,then what will happen? I can see protecting her know, but when she is 18, she can return and no one can do nothing. By the time the girl got a new lawyer, waited to file paper work, she will be a legal adult. I know that this isn't the point, but you can't stop an adult from doing what they want after they are 18.

The FLDS appears to be targeting Malonis because Malonis blew apart the FLDS members' efforts to portray themselves as victims instead of perpetrators.

Warren Jeffs and other FLDS leaders don't want this attorney for Teresa Jeffs and one could imagine that they want to get rid of this thorn and pull Teresa back into the fold. Perhaps they want Teresa to remain brainwashed and not influenced by the outside world.

This is a crucial year for Teresa. Hopefully she is in therapy so she can get a clear picture of what has happened to her.

Next year she will be free to return to her FLDS assigned husband or she can leave. From where we are sitting, it is impossible to tell whether Teresa's statement that she is not a sexual abuse victim reflected her own feelings or the wishes of the FLDS.

As others have pointed out, the judge could have simply assigned a new lawyer to Teresa. I think the judge elected to keep Malonis because she stands up to the FLDS and that is what is needed in this case.

There's no point in putting in a new attorney. The girl's almost 18 and trying to get a new lawyer up to speed is a waste of money.

In fact, this is really all just a waste of money anyway. It's unclear to me why we would care whether these children live like this. By the time they are married (at 12 yrs old) they are already so brainwashed that there is no realistic way of getting them to understand just how badly their rights are being trampled by FLDS. Even if you remove them, they will just go back as soon as they can. They're simply not bright enough to grasp their plight.

Given that lack of intellect, and the fact that their major contribution to society would be making more of the same, there's really no point in interfering with their lifestyle. The smart ones will get out when they are of age, and should we even care about the others? Has no one seen Deliverance and the effects of inbreeding?

I say leave them be. Texas should save their money for people that are smart enough to want freedom. If they'd rather be slaves, let them.

Horrible decision by the judge, demonstrating the continued bad decision making by Texan authorities.

QUOTE... Malonis said she believes her relationship with her client can be salvaged.

"Absolutely," she said. "I still have a working relationship with her."


LSAT EXAM LIST OF DANGEROUS WORDS: "ABSOLUTELY"

NOTICE: BE AWARE THAT ANTI-POLYGAMISTS USE OFTEN DANGEROUS WORDS SUCH AS "ABSOLUTELY AND NO QUESTIONS ABOUT."

What Malonis meant was that she could hang in there until the girl is 18, and there's no point in wasting more money by trying to get another lawyer up to speed. You really think a different lawyer is going to make a difference at this point?

And don't forget that the FLDS use words that are much more dangerous than "absolutely". Like "it's God's will" and "keep sweet" and "repent from afar", and Warren Jeffs' personal favorite - "would you like some candy, little girl?"

Too funny that you would even think this is about polygamy. It's not. It's about sexual abuse, repression, slavery, and coercion. But hey - if you're ok with it, so am I. I'd rather save the money for people that want freedom over isolation and repression.

Lack of knowledge allows these people to enjoy their plight. Let's keep it that way.

Ask Teresa if she wants to "hang" with Malonis for the next year of her life. Read her letters and emails on the internet, telling how Malonis would shout at her and keep her up alone in her room 'til 1AM interogating her about personal matters. She even asked her out to breakfast that same night, almost like Malonis is coming on to her or something. It's really quite sickening, but you begin to undertand Malonis' psychotic behavior when you read the affitdavits of her husbands, babysitters, and ex-husbands wives, in the court cases wherein Malonis lost custody of her own sons. These kind of character flaws may not matter to Walther, but they sure matter to the little girl who has to put with Malonis' abuse on a daily basis.

the "little girl" is 17. Thought you said she was old enough to make her own decisions?

besides, she'll live. let them argue until she's 18 and then it won't matter.

QUOTE: ....Stunning Palin disclosures steal thunder

TERESA JEFFS IS SIMILAR TO CERTAIN EXTENT TO PALIN'S 17 YEARS OLD DAUGHTER

SHOULD MALONI-LIKES CPS GO AFTER GOVERNOR PALIN (U.S. VICE PRESIDENT CANDIDATE) BECAUSE PALIN FAILED TO PROTECT HER DAUGHTER WHO IS NOW PREGNANT AT AGE 17...?

The only similarity is that they're both teenage girls. They have nothing else in common. Alaska's age of consent is 16, and so there's no reason CPS there would pay attention to a girl pregnant at 17.

R | 2:36 p.m. Sept. 6, 2008


EITHER (A) ALASKA CHIDREN DESERVED THE SAME EQUAL PROTECTIONS OR

TERESA JEFFS DESERVES THE SAME EQUAL PROTECTIONS AFFORDED IN ALASKA.

response to R | 2:36 p.m. Sept. 6, 2008



FAILED EQUAL JUSTICE

IN REFEF: R | 2:36 p.m. Sept. 6, 2008


FAILED EQUAL PROTECTIONS

Ridiculous. You do realize that laws differ from state to state, don't you? Teresa Jeffs doesn't "deserve" for the laws of Alaska to be taken into account in her case. Bristol Palin doesn't "deserve" for the laws of Texas to be applied to her circumstances.

I know I am going to get attacked by the FLDS-haters for saying this, but it seems to me Isenberg is being punished and attacked for reminding the women of their fifthed admendment rights and thrwarting the efforts of the CPS to circumvent the constitution and get people to testify against themselves.
The whole raid and then attempts to interview women without an attorney at Fort Concho were clear violations of the Fifthed Admendment, as well as the Fourth Admendment.
I hope someone stops to wonder if they want more high handed government raids before they vote for J. "Concentration Camp" Chaffetz. Vote for Bennion Spencer and save us from having a nationwide system of high handed raids where thousands of American born children will be living in worse conditions than Fort Concho.