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McCain's Speech | 10:51 a.m. Sept. 5, 2008
What I don't understand is why we as a nation put so much credence in the words of the politicians, including John McCain. Why get "fired up" about what he says in his speech tonight? It's not like he wrote it.

The Wall Street Journal today (09-04-08) had an article featuring John McCain's speech writer. It said in part, "John McCain's acceptance speech Thursday is the pinnacle of a partnership between the candidate and his friend of nearly two decades, speechwriter Mark Salter...He has penned nearly every important speech in Sen. McCain's political career..Mr. Salter wrote the first draft of Thursday's speech in Maine at his family's remote summer cabin, completing it a month ago."

Obama has a speechwriter too. I'd like to hear what the candidates have to say without someone writing their speeches for them. Maybe McCain's speechwriter should be running for office?
Paul | 11:00 a.m. Sept. 5, 2008
BobP, John Kerry's service in Vietnam is a matter of historical record, and indisputable unless you buy into the conspiracy theories of the "swift boat veterans for (ahem) truth." I honor his service and sacrifice as much as I do John McCain's. My political views do not require me to savage a man's background and experience just because I disagree with his policies. I disagree with John McCain on policy issues, and I find his party to be morally bankrupt. But I would be happy to sit down with John McCain and have a root beer with him.

Did you think that Jesus was actually telling you to pick up your sword kill someone with it as a test of your religious commitment? As long as we're quoting scripture, when Jesus was teaching people how to live, He said "love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." You can look it up right there in Matthew or 3 Nephi. Which passage are you going to follow?
nobody voted for them | 11:18 a.m. Sept. 5, 2008

What I find hilarious is those die-hard Republicans who would have fallen on their swords for the monsters Cheney and Bush post 9/11 are nowhere to be found on the list of those who voted for these awful people.
LOL!
Liberals warned them about these two but they voted for them anyway.
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Ron Paul for 2008 | 11:56 a.m. Sept. 5, 2008
What is McCain thinking for VP? There are other Republicans with more professionalism and experience than the Governor of Alaska, to name a few Mitt Romney, Kay Hutchinson, Elizabeth Dole, and Tom Ridge. I understand that Palin in reality she has collected more in her share of federal earmarks (pork). Than there is an ethics investigation and there are rumors she never sold the Governor�s plane on E-bay.
I am already questioning her integrity.

Undecided | 12:00 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
I don't understand the venom against either candidate. These are both men who are trying their best to make this a better country. They have different visions, experience and ability, as well as different party platforms that they are somewhat bound to. They are both imperfect and have both good and bad points, but that doesn't make one or the other evil, or creepy.

I am interested in hearing them debate, and hopefully, they will each expound upon their proposed policies and vision for the country, and not simply throw mud at each other and come up with clever one-liners.

Let them each make their best case, and then let us voters use intelligence (not emotion) to decide who will be the best president over the next 4 years.

It would also be great if the news media would be objective and give us some intelligent analysis as to the cost of proposed policies, and the likelihood of a candidate successfully pushing a policy through. The sports reporter mentality of most political news is not helpful (who is ahead/behind, popular, etc. is not information that helps us select good candidates).
Virginacougar | 12:04 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
To Diplomacy: You're idea, as well as Barak Obama's, of a "dipolomat" is in the mold of Neville Chamberlain, the great diplomat from England who's "diplomacy" led to the rise of Adolph Hitler and the subsequent World War and the death of millions of people, including Americans. Evil cannot and never will be reasonable with their intent or "diplomatic" towards any country, except when they are trying to dupe them into a false sense of security. You go ahead and put your faith in Obama. I'll put my security and trust in someone like McCain who knows and understands first hand the evil and ugliness of war, and the need to take the appropriate action when freedom and security is assailed, our or our allies, and stand up to those who perpetrate it. McCain is the right man to protect us and Sarah Palin was a great pic for VP. Look for a LANDSLIDE VICTORY IN NOVEMBER FOR MCCAIN AND PALIN!!!!!
Anonymous | 12:18 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Just because a man was tortured doesn't make him the best candidate.
If anything this might make him an angry Vietnam vet lunatic.
just ok | 12:23 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
McCain's speach was ... ok I guess. Nothing earth shaking or even inspiring. I think he could have just posted a web page for people to read because his delivery was pretty dull. The thing that bothers me is that neither candidate has a plan for the economy that will make much difference. I think we could do better and I feel that there has to be better talent in this country that could make a bigger and more immediate difference.
mixed messages | 12:26 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Both candidates suffer from the same problem. They both see that the problem with Washington is the constant partisan rancor, which has led to gridlock, so they talk about reaching across the aisle to work with the other party. However, they are also beholden to the far left and far right voices of their respective parties, which they must also placate. In short, they are trying to please the extremes, while at the same time try to reach common ground in the middle. That's why you see mixed messages from both at the conventions.

Hopefully whoever is nominated will leave the far left or far right ideologues behind and work with the moderates from both parties to forge compromise on key problems that need to be solved. The realist in me thinks that neither will do this, and we will continue to have more of the same gridlock, whoever is elected.

However, I'm still holding out hope. I certainly have much more hope in these two candidates, who at least are talking a lot about reaching across the aisle, than Romney and Clinton, who simply demonize the other side and call them names.
To Undecided @ 12:00 | 12:29 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
I wish everyone, especially the media people, would read what you have written. Your comments are so true that. Thanks for sharing.
NJP | 1:12 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Wow....I never knew so much venom could be spewed by the dem's over a absolutely wonderful speech. I watched both conventions and McCain's speech was by far the best. Personal, direct, and honest. If and hopefully when he becomes president, I pity the special interest groups who he will expose and castigate to the American people. He has always fought against pork barrel spending and as president will stop it once and for all. His being a prisoner in Vietnam was a blessing as he said, as it caused him to reflect on what life was really about. My husband also served in Vietnam, as a machine gunner in the Marine corp. Always getting shot at because the enemy takes out the machine gunner if possible. He also has some miraculous stories of how he survived. What McCain went through as a prisoner was something else and the person who called him a coward hasn't a clue of what a real hero is. God bless McCain for his service and for his service to come!! And as a woman......GO SARAH GO!! I think I will now put up a sign with DRILL BABY DRILL!!
Oops. . . | 1:26 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Obama miscalculated -- there are more conservatives clinging to their guns and religion than he had previously counted. More people tuned in to watch Palin's speech than the opening game of the NFL by 26% according to Neilsen survey. Palin mania is driving the socialist leftists crazy. Anyone need a lesson on field dressing their moose?
I Want Someone with Brains | 1:39 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
I am so sick of a President that can"t speak correctly, makes up words, and is led around by the nose by his Vice President. Give me someone to lead us who has some brains!

Let's see,

Obama:Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991

President, Harvard Law Review


McCain:Graduated 5th in his class at Annapolis -
5th from the BOTTOM, that is.


Who is he trying to BS? | 1:54 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
McBush is trying to convince us that he's a Washington outsider.
Excuse me but voting 95% of time for the current monstrous administration is not MY idea of a "maverick."
Brains | 1:55 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
If we elected people based upon their academic achievement, we would have missed out on Ronald Reagan. I know Harvard Law School sounds impressive, but Margaret Thatcher didn't measure up either. Leadership is not hinged on sheepskins.
ro Brains | 2:32 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Give me brains any day of the week. And RR wasn't so hot, really. What do you do when you need an expert in govt? Hire the uneducated? When you need a doctor do you just go down the street and say, "Hey, anyone even graduate?" NO, you go for the brains.

Obama is so well educated, calm, reasoned, that he should be president, period. McCain? He is still chanting, "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran...

Good grief. Listen to yourself. Brains matter!!! Or we would not have a school system, grades, rewards for excellence and achievement.

sheeesss louise.........
McCain | 2:39 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Watching McCain walk across the stage after the speech last night... looked like my old grandpa barely making his way. He had an old man's gimpy walk.

Not ready for the presidency. Meanwhile, cheerleader was all up up up . And I do like those tight fitting blouses!!! whew!!! whoa!!!!

Does she have any clothes that actually look lady like? Or do we get to have the snowbilly look for the rest of the election season?

Obama and Biden are so much more together, classier, and respectful of themselves. I change my vote: it is demo this time around.

Oh by the way, nice chewing of gum on the tarmac young boy as you met McCain. Classy group of people those Palins and Levi.
Be careful | 2:42 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Thank you Undecided. I agree whole-heartedly. The approach of many to paint the opposition as evil or having ill intent does not do any of any good and is false. They're both good men who have different oppinions and platforms of how to bring about the best for the country. The more the politician resorts to those tactics of personal attacks and smearing, the less he/she should be trusted. Let's keep to the issues and each of us can make an educated decision based on the issues rather than on distorted statements made about the person. Check your sources too. Try checking into politifact.com and watching more neutral tv stations than getting your "facts" from Sean Hannity and Bill Maher and the like.
To Virginiacougar | 2:52 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
You're right--can't use diplomacy with Bin Laden. You seek him out and you kill him (something our Republican leaders have been unable to do 7 years after 9/11). But the leaders of nations are not Bin Laden. The people of those nations love their countries and generally support their leaders. And it's important to talk. People like you who would rather nuke Teheran than talk with the Iranians worry me...
BobP | 2:58 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Paul:

We have both been around long enough to know that a proof text fight is a silly way to do things.

The Book of Mormon and the Bible are full of righteous warriors (or mighty men of Israel as to OT might put it).

My reservations about Kerry are:

The Silver Star and then home, early and within a very short time. The Purple heart for wound that wasn't as bad as a dog bite I got as a missionary. I don't like him saying that he "threw it over the fence" and then it turns out that he had saved it for election time.

I am a 5th Generation member of the Church who discovered doing my geneology that I was also a Jew. That alone will keep me from ever under any circumstances accepting Barak Hussein Obama as anything other than a threat to Isreal.

Yes I do have me loyalties in two places but they converge with McCain and Palin.
Ethics | 3:03 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Last night, as I listened to Cindy McCain talk about what a good father John is, I thought, what would his first 3 children say? After all, didn't he leave them with their mother to go marry someone 20 years younger (and much richer)? What kind of a father is that?
Anonymous | 3:23 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
John McCain cannot possibly relate to we little guys.
I know EXACTLY how many houses I own.
ohyeah | 3:45 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
This man came home to a faithful swimsuit model wife who almost lost her life (and 4 inches of her height)and started stepping out on her, then finally left her. Look up Carol McCain. If you hate Clinton for his exploits, you can't justify McCain.
Roger | 3:53 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
McCain is a fabrication of big money and family influence whos only national interest is to promote McCain into positions of power where he can serve their interests and secure their dynasty in american politics. McCain himself is not much more than a hollow man born into wealth, position and ambitiion. He is willing to say or do what ever it takes to succeed to power and position. Because there is too much truth in this posting it will most likely be censored.
Anonymous | 4:02 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
If being tortured was a prime prerequisite for the presidency than perhaps McBush's entire cabinet can be found at Abu Ghraib.
Use of Words | 4:16 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Why does the press say McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time? Since when did the President of the United States vote in the Senate or House? The President only has veto powers, not voting powers. He can't write or make laws; he can only approve or reject of legislation.
To Use of Words | 4:28 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Don't be naive. How do you think a president gets his agenda passed? He tells someone in congress what he wants, sometimes giving them the written language and they sponser the bill. The administration lets congress know that this is their bill and they push to have it passed. It happens all the time.
Grimble | 4:34 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Virginacougar:

You picked the wrong day to use the shopworn "Neville Chamberlain" appeaser argument: as we speak, Condi Rice is on her way to visit Libya. Remember Libya, the ones that shot that plane down over Scotland? We decided to go the pressure and diplomacy route before the military route with them, and it worked. So are Condi Rice and George Bush "appeasers" for sending a delegation to Libya?

Use of Words:
You'll have to ask McCain where the 90% comes from, because he himself bragged about it to the press. To quote: "I voted with the president over 90% of the time, higher than a lot of my even Republican colleagues."

On just about every major issue the President makes his opinion known. The Congressional Quarterly actually found that McCain voted in accordance with the President's stated opinion 95% of the time in 2007.
fish always stink at the head | 4:39 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Funny how nobody wants to put the blame on Cheney and Bush for the ills of America (especially in an election year).
Yet nobody questions why these two clowns were conspiculously absent from the biggest political event of their party.
LOL!
LDSTexan | 4:53 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
It wasn't his greatest speech, but he has my vote! ROCK ON MCCAIN/PALIN!!!!!!!!!!! It's better than Obama man with ties to criminals!
re: LDSTexan | 5:05 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
I suppose the allegiance to the neocons that are running this country into the ground today could qualify McBush and Palin as having "ties to criminals."
LOL!
Anonymous | 5:23 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
This Republican convention was the first time, since Lyndon Johnson (1968) that a sitting president did not attend his own party's convention. Actions mean more than words. GWB does not rock.
how many houses owned? | 5:24 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Not long ago, Senator McCain told us the economy was robust and doing fine.
Senator Obama saw it differently.

Today the dismal unemployment figures were released and today Senator McCain tells us these are tough times.

Thank you Senator Obama for telling it like it is and forcing the dishonest amongst us to come to grips with reality.
McCain/Palin | 5:25 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Voted for Bush, will vote for McCain/Palin. Seem much more sincere than any dem. It is about the country, not me me me. I hear that enough from Obama.
mnhusker | 5:33 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
The race is over folks. Palin is awesome and she will guide the republicans to victory in November. Obama is an empty suit. I can't wait to see him on O'reilly this next week. It's about time he gets away from the liberal news media and goes to the only fair station out there.
Anonymous | 5:44 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
I see the Limbaughites (5:25 & 5:33)
are at it again confusing fact with fiction.
LOL!
Anonymous | 6:04 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
One day Senator McCain tells us he doesn't know how many homes he owns and says the economy is just ducky.
Then a black guy named Barack Obama views things just the opposite and sounds a clear and concise warning.
And lo and behold!
Now Senator McCain tells us these are tough times.
LOL!
Anonymous | 6:13 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
McCain's speech was okay but very boring. I know he is not as gifted as Senator Obama with a teleprompter
but he nearly put me to sleep. Anyway McCain/Palin will be easily defeated. He did not convince me at all that he is not a foot soldier for Bush. Although, I thought the selection of Palin did bring some energy to his campaign but together they look like father and daughter not nominees for their party.
STRAW MAN | 6:20 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
The ROVIANS are good at the STRAW MAN GAMBIT.

Build up some fictional bad boy and then turn the attack dogs loose.

The RNC was great comedy.

Why did all mention of the Republican Party disappear on the floor of the convention?

Why did the beloved Bush have to deliver his speech from afar?

Why the distancing of McCain from the patron of the last eight years George Bush?

The Republicans are building a STRAW MAN.

If you let this political theatre influence your vote, so be it.

If you like the last eight years, BUSH / McCain is your man.

If you know we can do better, BUSH / McCain is not your man.
UGLY elections | 6:57 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
This is possibly one of the ugliest elections.
Obama's group is turning this into "black vs white"
McCain is turning this into "woman vs. man"

Now which group has fought the longest for equality?
Amazing

And no McCain is not "the same"...if people follow politics for a while...McCain was defined as a democrat in disguise. I wish people would do their homework and no just be sheep and kool-aid drinkers.
The bridge to nowhere... | 8:45 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
How about the speech about nothing? Sure, sure, he mentioned getting the real estate business back on track but nothing about the actually homeowners,just the realty companies. Other than that it was rhetoric and about nothing. Just woohoo, I'm great, I represent change even though I vote with GWB 90% of the time and special interests run my campaign. Oh yes, don't forget in the primaries when he said that he knows nothing about economics. How is this man going to "fix" the economy? What a bunch of hot air.
You know | 9:23 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
McCain made his entire platform revolve around his POW and service status. Despite what he knows about veterans, he's voted against help and support for veterans. Despite Palin and her special needs child, and McCain and Palin both saying that parents of children with special needs have their support, Palin cut the budget for special needs children about 60% in the state of Alaska. Despite the "traditional values" they preach and Cindy McCain saying you can trust her husband because he's honorable...he's known to have had several affairs. This is the McCain/Palin ticket (and so much more, did you like Cindy's dress that cost more than my house?) After all this we still have people saying that McCain has integrity? Honestly, look it up in a book. He's not there.
Kendra | 10:37 p.m. Sept. 5, 2008
Most of these comments are purely emotional and in many cases based upon personal biases without thoughtful consideration. It is unfortunate that criticism is the way that people handle their evaluations. I listen much more to people who can list positive things along with the Negative and then come to conclusions after being able to consider things honestly. Most of your commenters are not even honest with themselves. I tell my Debate class to always consider both sides with flow sheets listing the pros and cons of both sides. We have to be voting based upon the sum of the whole. Obama is a fantastic glomorous speaker who says very little of substance. I personally have a lot of negative feelings about McCaine in some of his personal life but I have respect that maybe he has changed and learned from his mistakes which he honestly admits. To have someone who TURNED down several chances to get out of the Hanoi Hilton because he refused to accept preferential treatment and did not want to let down his country is proving his convictions with his actions with much personal sacrifice and bravery. If that isn't presidential I don't know what is.
Re: Ron Paul for 2008 | 9:54 a.m. Sept. 6, 2008
"there are rumors she never sold the Governor�s plane on E-bay."

That's because she didn't. She listed it three times, but nobody ever made the minimum bid. She ended up selling it privately for a loss of half a million dollars on the appraised price, instead of holding out for more cash from elsewhere.
McCain Honorable? | 10:25 p.m. Sept. 7, 2008
John McCain's affairs make Bill Clinton look like a poster boy for marital fidelity. This guy admits to several affairs and was even engaged to be married before finalizing his divorce. This after a secret nine month affair. Right wingers always can excuse their own when it comes to these types of scandals but heaven forbid if a democrat does it. The double standard is nauseating. McCain is not moral or honorable. He is a lying, cheating, immoral, two faced, fraud. Clinton was villified for womanizing and McCain gets a pass from the Right. Typical Republican behavior.
Re: McCain Honorable? | 9:43 a.m. Sept. 8, 2008
I don't think McCain got a free pass on the issue. It's been brought up against him repeatedly over the years. But to put things in context, what McCain did happened nearly 30 years ago, before ever running for any political office. What Clinton did happened while he was quite literally inside the Oval Office. It was happening right then, so of course there was a scandal at the time. When Guiliani had his latest affair, he was villified too. John Edwards is going through it right now. Larry Craig went through it a few years ago. Eliot Spitzer went through it last year. If McCain were to be caught having an affair right now, he'd go through it too. It certainly doesn't make it right or honorable, but at least he admitted to it and took responsibility for it, unlike Clinton. The scandals happen in both parties, and each person involved is put through the wringer, as they should be.

And many people are engaged to be married while they're in the process of a divorce. That's hardly unusual.
Re Re McCain Honorable? | 10:06 a.m. Sept. 8, 2008
McCain lied about the affair in his most recent memoirs. He admitted having the affair but lied about the dates to make it look less damaging. This is an issue of character, and transcends time. He is running on a platform honor and integrity and this makes his affairs fair game. I don't care that he is in the Viagra crowd now, the right should not give him a pass. You will not find moralists Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh even broach the subject of infidelity in hopes that time has faded the memories. Cheating on a spouse is a tremendously selfish thing. It shows that for your own personal pleasure you are willing to savage the feelings of the one you promised to love honor and cherish above all others. Not very presidential in my opinion. i.e. we found out about Clinton and most others after they were already elected, not someone currently seeking the highest office in the land.
Amazing | 5:26 p.m. Sept. 8, 2008
Despite the fact the Republicans are CLEARLY lying about several issues, the conservative base repeats the lies. Big tip: If you say a lie alot, and loudly, it's still a lie.

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