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Other convention happenings

Very Ugly Words ! | 7:16 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

An ugly word has been surfacing around the Barack Obama presidential campaign lately and the word is reparations, and though Obama himself has said that he is not in favor of reparations or apologizing for slavery, he did earlier make a statement to the effect that the government should stop talking about reparations and do something about them. As has been the case in so many of Obama's statements, which one do you believe? He seems to have two or three stands on an awful lot of issues.I'm sick and tired of people telling me that I should apologize to dead people about something that happened way before I was born. My family did not own slaves and although I think it was a cruel and inhumane practice, I had absolutely nothing to do with it. I had no more to do with it than the present day descendants of Africans whose ancestors sold their own people to the s lave traders. Just what makes some people think that they deserve to be paid for something that happened to their forebears a century and a half before they were born? And who would get reparations?

OH "I had a dream" hogwash | 7:37 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

I am a far left liberal. I believe in the redistribution of wealth. I believe that even though a person has worked hard and accumulated assets, that he should have to share them with those who have not worked hard and that those who have not worked hard have a right to cradle to grave support from a monolithic government run by megabureaurocricies. I believe that if we would just play nice with the Islamic crazies they'd leave us alone and we could live in peace. I believe that the United States of America should be ashamed of the progress and prosperity we've attained in the last century. We should not be the only super power on Earth, and we should pay for our cruel ways by going above and beyond cleaning up the atmosphere, while we allow China and India to do as they please. I believe that a woman's body belongs to her to do with as she pleases and that she should be able to abort a baby right up until the time it enters the birth canal.

Confessions of a Far-Left Obamacon Liberal

Re: Very Ugly Words ! | 8:02 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

If we look back far enough, we can all certainly find where all of us had ancestors who were mistreated in one way or another. Do we still hold the bombing of Pearl Harbor against Japan? Do we despise the present day people of Germany because of what Adolph Hitler did? Do we blame everybody in the Middle East and Southeast Asia for 9/11? Do we hold Benedict Arnold's descendants in contempt for him being a traitor? The answer is no we don't, at least reasonable people don't and neither should reasonable people hold the present day generation accountable for something that happened in the 1800's. The African-American race has come light years since the dark days of slavery. Can't we just all forget this foolishness and get on with our lives, together?

Vote for McCain and Mitt in 2008.

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Anonymous | 8:02 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

You GOP pig.

Anonymous | 8:33 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

This is why we all need to vote for McCain in 2008 folks.

Obama's response to all this is to sidestep any discussion about when human personhood begins, the key question in the abortion debate. Some say it begins at the moment of conception; others say it begins at birth. (Still others look for a middle ground, suggesting it begins when brain activity starts.) But by arguing against the born-alive legislation because it might in some distant and ambiguous way obstruct abortion, Obama implies that the right to an abortion trumps an infant's right to life, even after he is born. Such logic is breathtaking. It says that even after birth, a mother's right to rid herself of the baby supersedes any right that a child, now independent of the mother's body and domain, has a right to live. Where America stands on this issue truly is a measure of its sense of justice and compassion. On this score, Obama fails.

a elephant never forgets | 9:22 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Downright Dangerous

Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and their compatriots are all that stand in the way of America harvesting the plentiful oil reserves we have in Alaska, the lower forty-eight and offshore.

Ms. Pelosi claims she's "trying to save the planet," but I submit to you that her reasons are more numerous and devious than that. She is beholden to the "save the whales" and "kill the babies" crowd, the green weenies who want to see America driving Fred Flintstone cars, the do-nothing, "do as we say, not as we do," crowd of Al Gore liberals with nothing to offer us but global warming and pipe dreams.

Last week, Ms. Pelosi and the Democrats in the House thought that getting an early start on their five-week vacation was more important than doing anything about oil exploration, much to the outcry of a group of Republicans who stayed in the House after it was adjourned in a vocal protest.

Vote 4 McCain in 2008

no way no how no Obamacon's | 9:58 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

How'd you like waiting for six weeks to get an x-ray or waiting all day just to get in to a doctor's office. Did anybody ever stop and wonder why socialism has so miserably failed everywhere on the planet it's been tried?

Anonymous | 9:59 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Why work when you can make more on the government dole than you can at an entry-level job? Why sweat when you can just sit back and get free healthcare and a check from the big sow every month?

Secondly, socialism becomes so top heavy that it can't possibly last. It always turns into totalitarianism with the few at the top of the food chain living like kings while the folks at the bottom scrounge around for what's left over.

And to maintain their lofty perches, it takes muscle to keep the common people in line and eventually develops into a "midnight knock on the door" type situation for those who disagree with the high and mighty and who are bold enough to talk about it in public.

RUN FROM ALL LIBERAL'S | 10:01 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Have you ever heard of the Fairness Doctrine? Nancy Pelosi has and she wants to put it in force. It may sound like a good thing but it is nothing less than an attempt by the Speaker of the House and her cronies to shut down criticism from any media personality who disagrees with them.

Dementia isn't funny | 10:17 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

John McCain can't remember how many houses he owns and it makes him angry.

no how no way no Obama | 11:27 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

I was not the only one to observe that Michelle Obama's speech was actually not the real Michelle Obama, and that she threw feminism away. She tried to make herself out June Cleaver and Mrs. Partridge all for the express purpose of trying to make white people like her and her husband, which we thought that had already been accomplished. The transparent purpose of Michelle Obama's speech, its kitschy effort to reassure, gave Michelle Obama a glaze of insincerity. In the post-speech commentary many of the TV types schooled now in empathy and not objectivity -- gave her high marks for what she did, but what she had really done, she had done earlier in her life. Last night she gave the standard log cabin speech expected of nearly all American public figures: born poor, raised in faith, et cetera, et cetera, with nary a mention of race. It was a speech designed to reassure, but it didn't do that at all. Politics can sometimes be ugly. In this case, we witnessed how a dynamic woman with a razor-sharp intellect had, for the moment, been lobotomized.

McCain in 2008

convention happenings? "HA" | 11:29 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

The Reverend Al Sharpton "is not happy with the Clintons." This is from yesterday. "With the Democratic National Convention abuzz with anticipation over Hillary Clinton's speech [last] tonight Al Sharpton says she and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, cannot afford anything less than an extraordinary effort to help Barack Obama's presidential candidacy beginning this week with an intensified push for party loyalty. Otherwise, Sharpton warned today, their reputations within the party once sterling could be permanently tarnished. It can damage their legacy in the long run if they don't get a grip pretty quick, Sharpton told The Times. I'll bet that really has 'em quaking in their boots over at Clinton central, Al Sharpton warning. Al's smart enough to know what's going to happen here. By the way, Al, you took a little while to get on board this train. Don't forget, Al, you were all upset over Biden's comment that "finally" the Democrats had a "clean, articulate" black guy.

While on the BHO topic here | 12:04 p.m. Aug. 28, 2008

What I want to know is, how did Hans Christian Andersen know about Barack H. Obamacon more than a century ago? Because Obamacon is straight out of Andersen's classic fairly tale, The Emperor's New Clothes. Old Hans Christian, who lived in Denmark from 1805 to 1875, had Obama's number down pat. All he needed was a good grasp of human nature. Obamacon's millions of immature O'bots are utterly self-deluded, but then they're not mental heavyweights anyway. The O'bots have their eyes shut tight, because looking at the reality of their idol is just too scary. O'bots live in Hope and Hype, reality is not their strong suit. They just yearn to see His Imperial Majesty's royal crown, his purple robes, his golden sceptre, his bejeweled throne. But it's all self-hypnosis. Scratch the Obamacon thin veneer of hype for a second and it peels off before your very eyes.

We don't want a socialist utopia | 3:48 p.m. Aug. 28, 2008

I have noticed some people who are developing a somewhat permissive attitude toward socialism and I personally think it's dangerous. Socialism is like a snake; it can creep silently in and stay around until the opportunity to bite comes along. Socialism is one of those things that sounds good on paper but never has and never will work out in practicality. Socialism sounds like a noble Robin Hood, share and share alike proposition where all the money goes into one pot and is distributed by a central government which makes the decisions about what you get and what you don't get. They refuse to tackle the tough problems like high fuel costs and the catastrophic illegal immigration fiasco and they play around with legislation to fund the troops and try to take the teeth out of the Homeland Security Bill. Down with Socialism, the horse it rode in on and the political candidates who support it.

Lewt | 10:31 p.m. Aug. 28, 2008

All these bitter, sardonic postings, all obviously from the same person who must have had some awful things happen to him. They reflect the happiness of someone who feels his best when very angry. If this person comes walking down the sidewalk, give him LOTS of room. Mike? Brother Chuck? Tai? John? Charles? DC? Mrs. Jennings? Take a big pill and put the radio on the "Magic Memories" station.

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