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BYU, Utah Utes football: Scheduling 'cupcakes'
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KP | 5:46 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Thank you for this article! I knew that most D-1 teams played a D-2 opponent,
but I was not aware the PAC-10 essentially doesn't. It makes sense, I
guess, since they can put the WAC schools (2/3 of which stink!) and the MWC
schools (1/4 which stink)on their schedules. Both conferences are
geographically close so it really works for them.
ramper | 7:08 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Many big schools are scheduling "tune-ups" which amount to no more
than a "pad-the-record" attempt to influence the poll voters. It can
backfire at times. In some cases it is an attempt to "help-out" a
struggling program that could use a big pay day. The irony is with most schools
scheduling twelve games a year before bowl season the argument about having too
many games as an excuse against a playoff system (the same system that Div. II
has) seems lame. Cut out some of these "cupcake" games and a playoff
system (using the bowls) can be accomplished.
BYU Independant | 7:15 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
BYU should go independant and create a rivalry with Notre Dame each year, while
also including games with Utah and Utah St. Throw in a few old WAC and MWC
rivals and then get some bigger national exposure with more games out east with
SEC, ACC and Big East opponents.
This would give BYU more national exposure, more national relevency and better chances for BCS consideration. Who cares about MWC titles? They're pointless and very unfulfilling......who wants to go to the Las Vegas Bowl and play the #4 or #5 PAC 10 team every year? What a waste!
This would give BYU more national exposure, more national relevency and better chances for BCS consideration. Who cares about MWC titles? They're pointless and very unfulfilling......who wants to go to the Las Vegas Bowl and play the #4 or #5 PAC 10 team every year? What a waste!
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Let's play the game . . . | 7:22 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Don't mind which teams schedule which cupcakes, but can we skip the Balogna
about these teams being good and these games being scarry and just play the
game, win it, and move on?
Last year the Des News ran the predictable "Eastern Washington provides a stout test for BYU article."
This year Bronco goes off on how his cupcake opponent "compares favorably to the better teams in our league." Ouch!!!!
This is a guy who hopes to play in a BCS bowl game telling the world the better teams in his league equate with the cupcake D-II team he is favored to beat by 35 pionts?
Schedule the game, use it for a warm up, win it, great.
Pointificate about it? Don't think so.
Just shut up and play.
Last year the Des News ran the predictable "Eastern Washington provides a stout test for BYU article."
This year Bronco goes off on how his cupcake opponent "compares favorably to the better teams in our league." Ouch!!!!
This is a guy who hopes to play in a BCS bowl game telling the world the better teams in his league equate with the cupcake D-II team he is favored to beat by 35 pionts?
Schedule the game, use it for a warm up, win it, great.
Pointificate about it? Don't think so.
Just shut up and play.
DB | 7:27 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
It's too bad BYU couldn't play a team like Timpview. It think it
would have been a better choice than Northern Iowa.
THANK YOU!!!! | 7:45 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Hopefully this shuts up some BYU critics for scheduling "patsy" NIU.
At least we scheduled a team that made it to the FCS championship game last
year. What I don't understand is that people think NIU is such a bad
team...the Cougar's schedule, however, would have been "weaker"
had we stuck with University of Nevada at Reno. Besides, NIU is probably better
than half D-1 teams anyway...
Northern Iowa | 7:59 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Everyone is making a big deal out of the Northern Iowa game. However, Utah St.
is the worst team BYU will play this year.
Anonymous | 8:09 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Notice that Western Kentucky and Texas Tech (yes - Texas Tech) have TWO D-II
teams scheduled.
Re: Northern Iowa | 8:23 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Man with comments like that, you'd better hope your cougars hand it to the
Aggies or else you will come off looking like a genius. Go ahead and tell your
team to overlook this game. That would be fine with us.
metamoracoug | 8:37 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
No one comments here on the fact that most of the ACC schools actually have 2
DII schools on their schedule. Of course, this helps them out a lot if they can
rest their starters for most of two games -- keeping them healthy for the big
games.
Ted | 8:39 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
I bet Weber St. is better than NIU. Go zoobies!
Whoa Nellie | 8:41 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
DB: Hurry and grab your Sponge Bob backpack and get to school. The short bus is
coming down your street. Don't comment on sports articles until you've
at least graduated from grade school or we'll have to tell your mom what
you've been doing.
RE: Let's play the game.
What makes you think NIU is a cupcake team? Bronco doesn't think so. No one else that knows football and is commenting on this topic seems to think they are a cupcake team. Just wondering what you know that the rest of the world is not telling us.
RE: Let's play the game.
What makes you think NIU is a cupcake team? Bronco doesn't think so. No one else that knows football and is commenting on this topic seems to think they are a cupcake team. Just wondering what you know that the rest of the world is not telling us.
BYU Fan from Boise | 8:42 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
BYU will never amount to a BCS team playing teams like NIU regardless of what
they did last year. This year they are an entirely different team and every
year from here out they will change. The Y should concentrate on the good
regional teams and schedule the midwestern teams like Nebraska, Notre Dame, and
some of the Texas schools. Playing D II teams will hurt them in the long run.
BTW Boise State is undefeated against the MWC since its inception. Grow some
courage and schedule the Broncos year in and out!!
Get Real | 9:07 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Let's see Northern Iowa finished either 3-4 in the nation in the FCS
division.
Appalachian state was a cream puff and beat Michigan.
7 out of 10 teams playing FCS division teams does not mean essentially most PAC 10 teams don't do it.
BYU going independent shows your lack of knowledge about what it means to be Independent. How many are there? Notre Dame.
BYU over the years has knocked off just enough of the BIG BOYS that is is hard for them to schedule other D1 schools. How come the comments on this site ignore this very fact. BYU tries, but the BIG BOYS don't want to really show that they can play some quality schools outside their league. Too much of a chance to find out they can be beat and there goes their BCS dreams.
The BCS is a monopoly and we are only allowed a chance at playing in a BCS game because congress started talking about looking at this monopoly. Too bad the NCAA has no backbone and says "Every D1 league, including Notre Dame has an equal shot at playing in a BCS bowl. But they are gutless.
Appalachian state was a cream puff and beat Michigan.
7 out of 10 teams playing FCS division teams does not mean essentially most PAC 10 teams don't do it.
BYU going independent shows your lack of knowledge about what it means to be Independent. How many are there? Notre Dame.
BYU over the years has knocked off just enough of the BIG BOYS that is is hard for them to schedule other D1 schools. How come the comments on this site ignore this very fact. BYU tries, but the BIG BOYS don't want to really show that they can play some quality schools outside their league. Too much of a chance to find out they can be beat and there goes their BCS dreams.
The BCS is a monopoly and we are only allowed a chance at playing in a BCS game because congress started talking about looking at this monopoly. Too bad the NCAA has no backbone and says "Every D1 league, including Notre Dame has an equal shot at playing in a BCS bowl. But they are gutless.
Akibono ko e Si'i | 9:10 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Would NIU beat up on Div I bottom feeders? Definately.
Could they compete competitively in some of the weaker Div I conferences?
Probably
Does anyone care?
No.
Div I-AA is Div I-AA is Div I-AA. That is whay people in general see. Wether it is NIU or Weber St, it doesn't matter, they're Div I-AA.
By the same reasoning, one could say USC and University of Luisiana - Monroe are the same. They are both Div I schools.
Of course None of this matters because BYU will embarass any football team that isn't one of the elite in the nation. And even the elite teams will have a difficult time holding the Cougars back.
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Could they compete competitively in some of the weaker Div I conferences?
Probably
Does anyone care?
No.
Div I-AA is Div I-AA is Div I-AA. That is whay people in general see. Wether it is NIU or Weber St, it doesn't matter, they're Div I-AA.
By the same reasoning, one could say USC and University of Luisiana - Monroe are the same. They are both Div I schools.
Of course None of this matters because BYU will embarass any football team that isn't one of the elite in the nation. And even the elite teams will have a difficult time holding the Cougars back.
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Quest for perfection | 9:21 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
regarding Northern Iowa: check the Sagarin ratings. They've got a better
rating than the majority of the MWC.
BYU fan from BOISE: maybe you want to check the other related article that went along with this. IF you check on BYU's schedule, they DO have BSU scheduled for a while. Helps if you actually check your facts!
BYU fan from BOISE: maybe you want to check the other related article that went along with this. IF you check on BYU's schedule, they DO have BSU scheduled for a while. Helps if you actually check your facts!
SEC wussies | 9:29 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Look at all those SEC wussies. If you're so tough, play someone decent in
your pre-season.
t | 9:30 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
BYU shceduled the toughest team they could find on the very short notice they
were given. There weren't any Div IA teams available, and NIU is better
than a lot of Div IA teams anyways(true, most of them are in the sun belt
conference).
BYU has BSU on its schedule in upcoming years.
What people have to realize with scheduling is that it is usually done several years in advance. In 2005, around the time UCLA was scheduled, UCLA went 10-2. You can't always predict how good a team will be 3 of 4 years down the road.
Also because scheduling is done so far in advance, when a team breaks a contract and backs out of game, It is very hard to find a replacement.
BYU has BSU on its schedule in upcoming years.
What people have to realize with scheduling is that it is usually done several years in advance. In 2005, around the time UCLA was scheduled, UCLA went 10-2. You can't always predict how good a team will be 3 of 4 years down the road.
Also because scheduling is done so far in advance, when a team breaks a contract and backs out of game, It is very hard to find a replacement.
Note to Anonymous... | 9:30 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Check out Texas Tech's conference schedule and then look at BYU's. If
BYU had Kansas State, Nebraska, Texas A&M, Kansas, Texas, and Oklahoma on
their schedule then fans wouldn't care about a game or two against the
northern iowas and murray states. I wish people would stop talking about BYU
and Utah like they are already BCS programs. They have a chance to earn respect
by scheduling four decent non-conference games against BCS schools (even if they
have to play on the road or against lower tier BCS teams) along with playing
each other and TCU.
Dr. C. | 9:32 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
There is no NIU...
The school is the University of Northern Iowa (UNI). It is basically the Weber State of Iowa.
There is no reason to be unrealistic. BYU should win the game, but UNI has a good football program. Most years they could probably win over about 1/3rd of the DI teams in the nation.
The school is the University of Northern Iowa (UNI). It is basically the Weber State of Iowa.
There is no reason to be unrealistic. BYU should win the game, but UNI has a good football program. Most years they could probably win over about 1/3rd of the DI teams in the nation.
C'mon | 9:41 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Gee the mighty SEC has its schedule of cupcakes,a nd KP is right sbout the
Pac-10. There are enough weak teams in the west that they can find.
Get over the Northern Iowa thing. Nevada cancelled and the rest of the WAC was busy that day, so get over it. It's good way to break in a season that starts with 2 PAC-10 teams. Utah has Weber State and will likely clobber them. We both have Utah State. Life goes on. Win 'em all and you may or may not get a BCS bid. Interestingly enough, Sports Illustrated has NO teams predicted to be unbeaten. That's simply not an easy task, especially for BYU with it's hardest league games on the road. The sun will come up the next day after a loss.
Get over the Northern Iowa thing. Nevada cancelled and the rest of the WAC was busy that day, so get over it. It's good way to break in a season that starts with 2 PAC-10 teams. Utah has Weber State and will likely clobber them. We both have Utah State. Life goes on. Win 'em all and you may or may not get a BCS bid. Interestingly enough, Sports Illustrated has NO teams predicted to be unbeaten. That's simply not an easy task, especially for BYU with it's hardest league games on the road. The sun will come up the next day after a loss.
Utah St | 9:56 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
I have said for years that Utah St should join the Big Sky and go 1A. The Big
Sky plays some good basketball, would save tons of $$ on travel costs, would not
have to play teams like Nebraska & LSU just to keep their program alive and
they would not be ranked 119 out of 119 D1 teams year in and year out.
BYUtah fan | 9:58 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Playing a 1-AA team to start the season is exactly the right thing to do. A team
improves the most during the season after its first game. If you can play a less
challenging first game then you have a chance to try out some things, be a
little conservative and play a lot of people. The NFL plays several pre-season
games for exactly this purpose. NIU is no pushover but they are not a powerhouse
either. That is exactly the way you want to start the season.
Steve | 10:09 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Actually Dr. C. there is an NIU and it's Northern Illinois University.
You forgot.. | 10:14 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
To put BYU on Washington's and UCLA's schedule as
"cupcakes".
Re: BYU Fan from Boise | 10:24 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
If you read the other DN article on future schedules, you'll see that BYU
has indeed scheduled BSU for 2012 to 2015. Granted, I would have liked to see
them scheduled a bit sooner, but later is better than never.
You have a good point - BSU is a great team. They squeaked out a great win against Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl last year (that was probably the funnest bowl game to watch). I think BYU's future schedules look good...not the strongest, but decent. I can't wait to see what they can do...GO COUGARS!!!!!
You have a good point - BSU is a great team. They squeaked out a great win against Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl last year (that was probably the funnest bowl game to watch). I think BYU's future schedules look good...not the strongest, but decent. I can't wait to see what they can do...GO COUGARS!!!!!
Cameron | 10:30 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
When BYU is undefeated, and all the pundits are talking about our weak schedule
and weak conference, just remember...
They're talking about the U
They're talking about the U
Re: BYU Independant | 11:07 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
you mean independent?
Following the Utah State model of football independence would be a DISASTER for BYU football.
Notre Dame already has its "regulars" and isn't interested in starting a "new" rivalry.
Trading a few MWC opponents for some old WAC opponents (wait a minute, almost all of the old WAC opponents are in the MWC) would mean adding Hawaii to the schedule.
BYU isn't even close to having the drawing power to schedule decent teams in October and November when they're into their conference schedules. Almost all of the bowls now have conference tie-ins, so, even with a good record, 9-3, 8-4, BYU would still be left out in the cold come bowl season.
So the advantage to going idependent would be...
zip, nada, zilch, a big goose egg, a
DISASTER!
Following the Utah State model of football independence would be a DISASTER for BYU football.
Notre Dame already has its "regulars" and isn't interested in starting a "new" rivalry.
Trading a few MWC opponents for some old WAC opponents (wait a minute, almost all of the old WAC opponents are in the MWC) would mean adding Hawaii to the schedule.
BYU isn't even close to having the drawing power to schedule decent teams in October and November when they're into their conference schedules. Almost all of the bowls now have conference tie-ins, so, even with a good record, 9-3, 8-4, BYU would still be left out in the cold come bowl season.
So the advantage to going idependent would be...
zip, nada, zilch, a big goose egg, a
DISASTER!
Boise State | 11:12 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
BSU opened the season with Sacramento State and still broke through the BCS.
Utah in their 2004 season played USU early on in the season which is practically
the same thing.
Homer | 11:34 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Forget the cupcakes, I think we should schedule more donuts.
Bart | 11:36 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Like the one the boys on the hill brought home from Las Vegas last year?
No NIU | 11:47 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Actually, there is an NIU, Northern Illinois University. There is also a UNI,
University of Northern Iowa. We are playing UNI, not NIU, though the
competition level would be about the same.
WSU fan | 11:52 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Not to say anything against the U or BYU, but has anyone seen Weber State's
schedule? Two I-A teams (Utah AND Hawai'i), BOTH on the road! I know
Weber's a small school, but to take on two I-A teams in one year is way out
of line for them. Mac must be going out of his mind trying to prepare them for
those games.
You Forgot... | 11:55 a.m. Aug. 27, 2008
To put the Utes on Weber State's schedule as "cupcakes."
Re: You forgot | 12:12 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
That's what UCLA thought about Wyoming and BYU at the Las Vegas Bowl. Coach
Belloti is still hoping he will never have to play a 'cupcake' like
BYU again and get treated like road kill. The utes have 3 byes, before New
Mexico and Weber and USU.
Anonymous | 1:01 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Sagarin College Football Ratings
1 Southern California
2 LSU
3 Ohio State
4 Oklahoma
5 Florida
6 Virginia Tech
7 West Virginia
8 Texas
9 Georgia
10 Auburn
11 Michigan
22 BYU
24 Oregon State
27 Boise State
28 UCLA
30 Utah
33 TCU
52 Notre Dame
54 Washington
55 Hawaii
57 Air Force
60 Fresno State
61 New Mexico
80 Colorado State
81 Wyoming
84 NORTHERN IOWA (UNI)
86 Nevada
88 San Diego State
112 UNLV
144 Northern Arizona
145 Portland State
146 Utah State
147 Montana State
168 Princeton
169 Brown
170 Weber State
According to Sagarin's ratings, UNI is about the same as Colorado State and Wyoming, and, ironically, UNI is ranked slightly higher than the team they replaced, Nevada.
1 Southern California
2 LSU
3 Ohio State
4 Oklahoma
5 Florida
6 Virginia Tech
7 West Virginia
8 Texas
9 Georgia
10 Auburn
11 Michigan
22 BYU
24 Oregon State
27 Boise State
28 UCLA
30 Utah
33 TCU
52 Notre Dame
54 Washington
55 Hawaii
57 Air Force
60 Fresno State
61 New Mexico
80 Colorado State
81 Wyoming
84 NORTHERN IOWA (UNI)
86 Nevada
88 San Diego State
112 UNLV
144 Northern Arizona
145 Portland State
146 Utah State
147 Montana State
168 Princeton
169 Brown
170 Weber State
According to Sagarin's ratings, UNI is about the same as Colorado State and Wyoming, and, ironically, UNI is ranked slightly higher than the team they replaced, Nevada.
Big Difference | 1:26 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
I love how people think it is ok for BYU and Utah to schedule
"cupcakes" because the SEC and other BCS leagues are doing it. Those
teams end up playing several ranked teams just in league play. If BYU and Utah
are lucky, they get to play 1 ranked team in league play. They need to take
advantage of the non-league play to schedule 3 or 4 BCS opponents because they
get all the "cupcakes" during league play.
Know the Difference | 1:42 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
People, stop referring to Division I double A opponents as Division II. There
actually is a Difference. BYU and Utah are both playing Division I-AA. SUU and
Weber State are Div I-AA. Teams like Dixie State in St. George are Division II.
Just an FYI
Don't even compare! | 2:27 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Last year BYU was the ONLY team in the top 25 that did not play another team in
the top 25. That is something to hang your hat on! If Utah lays an egg the same
thing could happen this year. But we will continue to hear about the powerhouse
N.E.W.S. Iowa ot whatever. My thought is that even Lavell's players are
turning up their noses at BYU's schedule. Since Gary C. left and took his
schedule with him, to even compare what the PAC-10, SEC, Big 10, and the others
have to do to reach the BCS game is a joke! But then again it would be better to
play Bronco's lousy schedule and win than go through what Gary did. Again-
Last year BYU was the ONLY team not even playing a team in the top 25 let alone
beating them. Don't credit me with being a Ute homer- I'm actually a
Fresno State homer. At least they play people!!!!!!!!!
Re: Know the difference | 3:19 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Thank you for that little refresher...I admit that I don't entirely
understand the divisions. I also think it's short-sighted to assume team A
will be better than team B simply because team A is division I and team B is
division II.
UNI is certainly better than who the Cougars were hoping to originally schedule...and I bet they're better than half of the MWC teams, too.
UNI is certainly better than who the Cougars were hoping to originally schedule...and I bet they're better than half of the MWC teams, too.
Re: Don't compare | 3:33 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
UCLA was ranked 14th in both AP and Coaches polls when BYU played them on
September 8th.
Utah and Tulsa both ended the season in the "Others Receiving Votes" in both polls.
BYU finished 14th in both polls.
BYU's SOS last season was .487 (70th).
Fresno State's SOS was .437 (85th).
Now, tell me about the people!!!!!!!!! Fresno State plays.
Utah and Tulsa both ended the season in the "Others Receiving Votes" in both polls.
BYU finished 14th in both polls.
BYU's SOS last season was .487 (70th).
Fresno State's SOS was .437 (85th).
Now, tell me about the people!!!!!!!!! Fresno State plays.
Gorath | 4:05 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Major Props to Fresno St. for their tough schedule, but it is important to
remember that scheduling isn't always certain. BYU was left high and dry
when Reno backed out last minute. Even when you actually are able to schedule
some ranked BCS teams, who knows how good that team will be in 3-5 years when
you actually play them?
Fully Deluded | 4:20 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
TDS fans are so delusional that they'll earnestly defend playing a 1-AA
program and tout it as competive....because Bronco said so. At least Ute fans
won't go there with Weber St. We know they're a cupcake, and most of
us don't approve. I have yet to hear ONE Ute fan say they're excited
about our upcoming "competitive" game against the Wildcats.
"Ooooh, but UNI is better than NEVADA!" Wow TDS fans....NEVADA! That tradition-rich program always mentioned among the pantheon of legendary college football progrmas such as Notre Dame, Michigan, and USC. Nobody can ever accuse YOU of kickin' it with creampuffs. How many of you will be posting here on Sunday saying your blowout win against the panthers is EVIDENCE you deserve to be mentioned among the BCS Bowl bubble teams?
"Ooooh, but UNI is better than NEVADA!" Wow TDS fans....NEVADA! That tradition-rich program always mentioned among the pantheon of legendary college football progrmas such as Notre Dame, Michigan, and USC. Nobody can ever accuse YOU of kickin' it with creampuffs. How many of you will be posting here on Sunday saying your blowout win against the panthers is EVIDENCE you deserve to be mentioned among the BCS Bowl bubble teams?
ramper | 4:33 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
For what it is worth:
Phil Steeles College Football Preview toughest schedules for 2008 (rates all Div. 1 teams)
Top Ten
1. Washington
2. Arkansas
3. Georgia
4. Vanderbilt
5. Oregon State
6. UCLA
7. Baylor
8. Colorado
9. Virginai
10. North Carolina State
-------------------------------------
43. Utah State
86. BYU
99. Utah
You can check the website for the entire ranking.
Google Toughest Football Schedule
Phil Steeles College Football Preview toughest schedules for 2008 (rates all Div. 1 teams)
Top Ten
1. Washington
2. Arkansas
3. Georgia
4. Vanderbilt
5. Oregon State
6. UCLA
7. Baylor
8. Colorado
9. Virginai
10. North Carolina State
-------------------------------------
43. Utah State
86. BYU
99. Utah
You can check the website for the entire ranking.
Google Toughest Football Schedule
Helmsdeep(81) | 4:52 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
REF: Ref: Boise BYU Fan
Both of you might be interested in a small tidbit in the Aug 8th edition of Sporting News. There may be something more to BYU's scheduling of Boise State in 2012 and 2015 than meets the eye. Sporting News has gone so far as to predict on page 47,..... and I quote. "This will be Boise State's final year in the WAC. The City of Boise holds the rights to the Humanitarian Bowl, and the Mountain West Conference wants in. Boise State will be the benefactor when the city and university negotiate expansion into the MWC." How do you like them Apples???
YAAAAAAWWWWWWWWN......I was getting tired of Las Vegas anyways....................
Both of you might be interested in a small tidbit in the Aug 8th edition of Sporting News. There may be something more to BYU's scheduling of Boise State in 2012 and 2015 than meets the eye. Sporting News has gone so far as to predict on page 47,..... and I quote. "This will be Boise State's final year in the WAC. The City of Boise holds the rights to the Humanitarian Bowl, and the Mountain West Conference wants in. Boise State will be the benefactor when the city and university negotiate expansion into the MWC." How do you like them Apples???
YAAAAAAWWWWWWWWN......I was getting tired of Las Vegas anyways....................
I don't get it | 5:27 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Utah and BYU play 8 of the same teams. However, looking at the differences:
*Utah plays BYU, while BYU Utah. According to most polls, BYU is ranked, while Utah is not. Thus, head-to-head SOS edge goes to Utah.
*Utah plays Weber St. while BYU plays N. Iowa. I doubt anybody disputes this head-to-head SOS edge goes to BYU.
*Utah plays Oregon St. and Michigan. BYU plays Washington and UCLA. In ANY scenerio, the SOS edge goes to Utah.
How does BYU's SOS schedule rank 13 spots ahead of Utah's? Especially since the only edge BYU has comes by way of 1-AA teams?
*Utah plays BYU, while BYU Utah. According to most polls, BYU is ranked, while Utah is not. Thus, head-to-head SOS edge goes to Utah.
*Utah plays Weber St. while BYU plays N. Iowa. I doubt anybody disputes this head-to-head SOS edge goes to BYU.
*Utah plays Oregon St. and Michigan. BYU plays Washington and UCLA. In ANY scenerio, the SOS edge goes to Utah.
How does BYU's SOS schedule rank 13 spots ahead of Utah's? Especially since the only edge BYU has comes by way of 1-AA teams?
NIU #4 | 6:00 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Northern Iowa is ranked pre-season #4 in the 1-AA standings.
Weber isn't mentioned since only the top 40 or so got votes.
Weber isn't mentioned since only the top 40 or so got votes.
ceego | 6:26 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
Have anyone see who the top 1-3 colleges is playing in their opener....and you
say this is cupcakes....
wow
wow
JimBob | 6:33 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
doesn't Utah count as Michigan's Div 1-AA opponent?
someday the Y will learn | 6:52 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
They cannot be considered upper echelon of college football because they
don't dump the cash to convince the perennially successfull name schools /
conferences to include them in their circle. Status Quo since 1980
basically... and it will never change until they put together a rolling 10 year
winning record out of conference against Div 1A schools and QUIT scheduling any
others.
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