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Foes of same-sex marriage mobilize

It is sad that so much time in church is dedicated to mobilizing people for a superficial change, all in the name of hate an paranoia.

Most churches have their own marriage ceremonies, and thus this initiative would not even affect them. Small minds, I suppose, are driven by wedge issues.

the article incorrectly states that this is the first time that voters will be asked to weigh in on the issue. Voters in california passed Prop 22 by 61.4% at the March 7, 2000 primary election. Prop 22 explicitly defines the union of a man and a woman as the only valid or recognizable form of marriage in the State of California.

This issue is about long term religious freedom. Anyone who thinks that gay marriage has no effect on other marriages does not understand the long term effect of the issue. This issue will open many more doors to the gay and lesbian movement to the detrement of all religious faiths that believe in the sanctity of marriage as a union of one man and one woman. Living in Northern Europe after many years in the US has shown me that long term marriage US style is far better for society than the free love style of Europe. Faith based people need to keep their marriage/religious rights or they will be re-writing the freedom of religion clause in the constitution over to the gay/lesbian movement.

Here's the thing. Marriage was created as, and is, a promise to God to allow for procreation without sin. Since homosexuality is a sin and procreation is impossible in a homosexual relationship, what is the need for marriage? If people of that type wish for similar benefits for health, taxes and what not, let it be called civil unions. All they are doing by calling it marriage is stirring the hornets nest when it is not needed.

There is nothing about hate or bigotry in this initiative. The main point is that marriage was instituted and ordained of God to be between a man and a woman. It is not man's perogative to change the natural order of humanity.
Also, it doesn't take a lot of brain power to notice that if gay marriage becomes normal, children would become instinct in one generation. No more children, no more humanity.

Theodore Roosevelt declared "Aggressive fighting for the right is the noblest sport the world affords." Every second we spend to declare that we are on the same side of this issue as God is time well spent.

It is naive to think that same sex marriage proponents will stop at legalizing nuptials. Be assured they will not stop until all voices of opposition are silenced and theirs the only voices heard from the classroom, pulpit and everywhere else.

Their actions have proven time and time again that they start with something that sounds reasonble and move from there until there is no opposition. What they propose has been declared by God to be wrong. The only thing left to be decided is whether or not we are on the same side as God or his opposition. (Regardless of the outcome of an election.)

It's not paranoia; it's keeping marriage the way God intended to be between one man and one woman. And it's keeping same sex couple from sueing churches to get access to their facility to perform marriage ceremonies. It's already happening in New Jersey. Whatever you do is your business but,keep marriage, a sacred ceremony out of it.

No, Tom, it's not hate that's the motivator, that's an easy claim for you to make.

Prop. 8 is the right thing to do, for society and for our children.

Has nothing to do with hate...

It's great to see people standing up for what is right in the face of growing opposition.

I encourage all to give this a try and the world will be a better place.

Thankfully, many with a truly large capacity to think and analyze can see the true dangers and serious consequences that legalization of any form of super-sexual (be it gay or not) will have on society. Small minds are those that are unable to think beyond emotion.

gee, mr. keep it up, I wish my mind was as big as yours.

If it was, I might be able to come up with a non-bigoted statement like a sister in our ward who said in church we need to see gays for "what they really are".

She has a really big mind (and open) like yours. She also has the large capacity to think. She has been able to lump all gays in some basket that deserves prejudice and condescension. We all know that takes a real large capacity to think to do that.

You are right. Let's go further on this: say I am a party and a gay couple tell everyone they are married.

So? Do we pelt them with ice cubes? Grab the children and hide them in the closet? Uninvite them to the party? Call 911?

Ps-- we do nothing. If people want to call themselves "frogs" or "Martians" or "Smartest people in the world" they have the freedom to do that. Period.

As to gays sueing churches, that is a red flag, no evidence story. In fact, churches have consistently won every court case on any such issues. Total fabrication.

But it does appeal to the ignorant of the facts.

I guess I'm small minded. Please elaborate on the true dangers and consequences that legalisation of any form of super sexual (your term) will have. Maybe I'm just a bundle of emotion, but the dangers are escaping me.

*snicker*

I love the way gays always claim that anyone who disagrees with them is motivated by "hate." That is such a cheap shot. Those are the sort of things you say when you don't have any good arguments.

Hatred has nothing to do with it. This is a measure to protect the sanctity of marriage and the family.

I applaud all those citizens in California who are trying to do the right thing. They voted on this once and four people who were not elected have completely overturned the will of the people. This is wrong and needs to be fixed.

You honestly think children would become "instinct" in one generation if a few thousand gays got married? These same people are already not procreating, yet humans continue to overpopulate the earth. Replace the word "gay" in this arguement with "black" or "Jew" or any other group descriptor and you would call it completed biggoted and hateful.

I support the courts decision to allow Gay marriage, and all the people on this comment board that say "God ordained marriage really need to study the foundation of marriage.
It was started by the pagans as fertility ceremonies. Not by the Abrahamic god that most on this board claim.

Gay marriage does not threaten humanity or instinction like on reader commented, maybe in his/her mind everyone will turn gay if this passes, but that is just no the reality, and just because the commenter is too insecure with their sexuality does not mean that everybody on the planet is.

God has spoken on this issue when God said that we need to Love everyone and treat everyone equally.

It is unconvincing to say that you dont hate gays when you wish to deny the same right that everyone else has.

I'm glad to see that most of the comments here are in the affirmative for Prop. 8. Now if you truly believe in this cause take it one step further and donate some money to the cause so that we can go further to ensure that we get the right vote!

***This article has incorrect info*** "It's the "first" time voters will be asked to weigh in on the issue in either California or Massachusetts � the states where gays have won the right to wed" The reason why people are so angry about this is because California voters already passed Proposition 22 in 2000 by more than 61%, saying that a marriage in California is between a man and a woman. In 2008 all there votes were thrown in the garbage by the San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsom and a few other govt leaders and courts. It's amazing that we already voted for it and it passed. Why the heck do we have to vote for it again? Because our votes didn't count the first time!!!

Go Californian Saints, Catholics and other Christians! Keep up the good work. If I were there I would gladly join your efforts to make marriage between only one man and one woman.

And Tom, remember in the begining God created Adam and Eve. Not Steve and Steve or Eve and Eve.