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Utah Utes football: Offense has best showing
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GO UTES | 6:21 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
Utes will do well this year! I can't wait for the first game!
Re: TheHailstorm | 8:04 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
They forgot to mention how many MWC championships Utah has won since Kyle took
over as head coach.
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Utah's defense should be able to handle Michigan's offense; the big question is whether Utah's offense can score on Michigan's defense.
Bad sign: If Utah gets early chances to score and settles for field goals instead of touchdowns.
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Utah's defense should be able to handle Michigan's offense; the big question is whether Utah's offense can score on Michigan's defense.
Bad sign: If Utah gets early chances to score and settles for field goals instead of touchdowns.
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defense? | 8:17 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
Where was the defense while all this was going on? Sounds like the offense
pretty much had their way with them. Oh well, so much for the fear of
Utah's defense expressed in the Ann Arbor News.
Gretzky | 8:25 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
you never know what to make of these stories. same with the cougs' dud
article. deep down teammates don't like to pound on each other b/c they
know if they hurt someone their team is hurt. it's not until the real game
against michigan that they truly let it all out in a sense. even then it's
not until the holy war that all everything lets loose at full speed and emotion.
so probably not to learn from these articles. Utah has the best defense in the
nation and yet Johnson is throwing TD's on them? doesn't make sense
b/c the offense is certainly not the best. so it's a lot of role playing
going on right now.
Big House | 8:44 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
Big Hit, and BJ is out for the year. This is football and he has proven he
can't take a hit. When he goes down so do the Eweetes...
Darrell | 8:48 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
If the Utes have any chance of winning, it better be a low scoring game, 20-17
game or something close to that. Instead of scoring quickly, Utah needs to
control the clock on offense. This will enable the defense to rest and still
have the energy to take on Michigan's superior athletes and depth. If
Utah's offense can't control the ball, it could be a long day.
Re: Darrell | 9:09 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
Utah just needs to score, whenever and however they can, period.
Whether that's quickly or slowly will depend on what Michigan's defense gives them. If Utah expects to win by simply controlling the ball, they'll lose.
Play to win, NOT, not to lose.
Whether that's quickly or slowly will depend on what Michigan's defense gives them. If Utah expects to win by simply controlling the ball, they'll lose.
Play to win, NOT, not to lose.
Zoob trolls | 9:17 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
I think it's amusing how many zoobies come over on and post on what is
clearly a Ute article. Obviously the must be worried, and if I were a zoobie I
would be too (then I would shoot myself)
First of all, if BYU doesn't make the BCS this year it will be a laughable failure on their part. They have no excuse for not being there. Pre-season rankings and a soft schedule.
Second, to all you zoobtards bagging on the Utes..
What is your post season bowl record again? What is the utes?
What is the all time series record between the Utes and Zoobs?
Okay thanks... see you when you drop out of the polls.
First of all, if BYU doesn't make the BCS this year it will be a laughable failure on their part. They have no excuse for not being there. Pre-season rankings and a soft schedule.
Second, to all you zoobtards bagging on the Utes..
What is your post season bowl record again? What is the utes?
What is the all time series record between the Utes and Zoobs?
Okay thanks... see you when you drop out of the polls.
Anonymous | 9:26 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
I don't think that we have to worry about a high scoring game personally.
Michigan might be going to a spread offense but Rodriguez doesn't have the
personnel yet to fully implement it. Besides it's never a good sign for
your offense when a walk-on is your starting quarterback and a true freshman is
your expected starting rb. Their o-line hasn't been able to control the
line of scrimmage all camp either. With that said I don't consider this
game to be easy. It will be low scoring and hopefully a seven point win for the
Utes come the 30th.
If Utah wins @ Michigan... | 9:29 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
It will be on Louis' leg. Take that to the bank.
Back at ya | 9:41 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
How many bowl games had Utah played in before 1992?
How many bowl games has Utah played in, ever?
How many times has Utah played a ranked opponent in a bowl?
Better hope that Utah can beat Michigan or Utah's "others receiving votes" will end before the Utes even get into the polls.
See U in November.
Remember, Utah "owns" BYU in RES.
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Last 20 BYU/Utah games played in RES:
1968 - Utah 30, BYU 21
1970 - Utah 14, BYU 13
1972 - BYU 16, Utah 7
1973 - BYU 46, Utah 22
1976 - BYU 34, Utah 12
1978 - Utah 23, BYU 22
1980 - BYU 56, Utah 6
1982 - BYU 17, Utah 12
1984 - BYU 24, Utah 14
1986 - BYU 35, Utah 21
1988 - Utah 57, BYU 28
1990 - BYU 45, Utah 22
1992 - BYU 31, Utah 22
1994 - Utah 34, BYU 31
1996 - BYU 37, Utah 17
1998 - BYU 26, Utah 24
2000 - BYU 34, Utah 27
2002 - Utah 13, BYU 6
2004 - Utah 52, BYU 21
2006 - BYU 33, Utah 31
BYU 13
Utah 7
How many bowl games has Utah played in, ever?
How many times has Utah played a ranked opponent in a bowl?
Better hope that Utah can beat Michigan or Utah's "others receiving votes" will end before the Utes even get into the polls.
See U in November.
Remember, Utah "owns" BYU in RES.
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Last 20 BYU/Utah games played in RES:
1968 - Utah 30, BYU 21
1970 - Utah 14, BYU 13
1972 - BYU 16, Utah 7
1973 - BYU 46, Utah 22
1976 - BYU 34, Utah 12
1978 - Utah 23, BYU 22
1980 - BYU 56, Utah 6
1982 - BYU 17, Utah 12
1984 - BYU 24, Utah 14
1986 - BYU 35, Utah 21
1988 - Utah 57, BYU 28
1990 - BYU 45, Utah 22
1992 - BYU 31, Utah 22
1994 - Utah 34, BYU 31
1996 - BYU 37, Utah 17
1998 - BYU 26, Utah 24
2000 - BYU 34, Utah 27
2002 - Utah 13, BYU 6
2004 - Utah 52, BYU 21
2006 - BYU 33, Utah 31
BYU 13
Utah 7
Anonymous | 9:47 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
I don't think they have much of a chance but I'd tip my cap to them if
they beat Michigan. I would enjoy Utah beating them. I just can't wait
for the season to start! Go Cougs!
To Re:theHailstorm | 9:48 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
They didn't mention MWC titles because they couldn't care less.
Conference titles only mean something to the conference - especially when
it's of a perceived 2nd tier conference. Bonehead.
Question | 10:04 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
I have a question for anyone who wants a real conversation about Ute football
instead of a bunch of idiots running their mouth.
Why do you think Whit is thinking of playing both DeVonte Christopher and Shak? I understand that you want your best players on the field, but we are plenty deep at RB, and the receiving position looks pretty good too (especially if Key ever shows up and is anywhere near as good as advertised). I think it is a mistake to burn up a redshirt on both of these athletes when they would just be burried in the depth chart and be able to have a much greater impact down the road.
Any thoughts from other Ute fans?
Why do you think Whit is thinking of playing both DeVonte Christopher and Shak? I understand that you want your best players on the field, but we are plenty deep at RB, and the receiving position looks pretty good too (especially if Key ever shows up and is anywhere near as good as advertised). I think it is a mistake to burn up a redshirt on both of these athletes when they would just be burried in the depth chart and be able to have a much greater impact down the road.
Any thoughts from other Ute fans?
Matt A. | 10:04 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
The only thing I agree with in "Zoob trolls" post is how humorous it
is to see BYU fans commenting so fiercely on Utah articles the past few days.
The reason I find it humorous is Utah fans are often accused of hating BYU more
than taking an interest in their own team. That philosophy obviously applies to
both sides.
I wouldn't be too concerned with the 2nd team offense moving the ball on Utah's defense. First of all, it is practice, and secondly, the offensive and defensive units face each other so often one side is bound to take advantage of the other based on familiarity of schemes. Utah v. Michigan is going to be a classic matchup. I am beginning to change my tune. I am not ready to declare Utah winners yet, but the teams appear to be quite evenly matched. Playing in the Big House still worries me, though.
I wouldn't be too concerned with the 2nd team offense moving the ball on Utah's defense. First of all, it is practice, and secondly, the offensive and defensive units face each other so often one side is bound to take advantage of the other based on familiarity of schemes. Utah v. Michigan is going to be a classic matchup. I am beginning to change my tune. I am not ready to declare Utah winners yet, but the teams appear to be quite evenly matched. Playing in the Big House still worries me, though.
Question (again) | 10:16 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
Sorry, I meant a mistake to NOT take the redshirt.
Talk of Bowl Games | 10:16 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
is a little premature. Let's get through the season first.
However, food for thought in November:
Is a good win/loss record in bowl games the most significant measure of success?
Good luck to Utah and BYU for very successful seasons.
However, food for thought in November:
Is a good win/loss record in bowl games the most significant measure of success?
Good luck to Utah and BYU for very successful seasons.
not worried about Michigan | 10:32 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
I'm not worried about the Michigan game. It would be nice to win that one
but it doesn't really count against us since it's a pre-season game.
The one we really need to win is byu. We have a lot of talented players and
we've beaten some very good teams the past 2 years. But we haven't won
any conference championships since Urban left and we finish in 3rd place. Why is
it that we haven't beaten byu and won the MWC?
And the answer is: | 10:32 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
"They didn't mention MWC titles because they couldn't care
less."
BEAP!
Wrong answer.
The correct answer is "Kyle hasn't won ANY MWC titles at Utah."
Thanks for playing.
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That's why Whittinghams's first priority for this season is winning a MWC title.
He's trying to break out of the rut of occassional big wins surrounded by seasons of "good, but could have been better."
BEAP!
Wrong answer.
The correct answer is "Kyle hasn't won ANY MWC titles at Utah."
Thanks for playing.
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That's why Whittinghams's first priority for this season is winning a MWC title.
He's trying to break out of the rut of occassional big wins surrounded by seasons of "good, but could have been better."
Re: Talk of Bowl Games | 10:33 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
The answer to your question is obviously no. A teams bowl record is a measure
of success, just as conference championships is a measure of success. The
question I would set out is, if you had to end the season with a 9-4 record,
would you rather have your four losses come to respectable OOC opponents and win
the conference, or have wins against those OOC opponents and fall short on the
conference title?
Anonymous | 10:39 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
It worked out well when Chad Henne and Mike Hart started as true freshman.... I
wonder how they did?
Ernest T. Bass | 10:41 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
Why are they always so obsessed they read about Utah's practice then decide
to post?
Yewts | 10:48 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
The article from Ann Arbor forgot to mention that the same team that beat UCLA
last year also put up a goose egg against lowly UNLV a week later while the Utah
defense looked like a deer in the head lights as UNLV put up 27 points. The
point here is that the Utes have been inconsistent and they better take their A
game to Ann Arbor if they expect to win. Michigan lost their opening game last
year and I'm guessing they will be motivated to not let that happen again.
sam mcguffie | 10:55 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
I am a UTE FAN and i am very confident about the game but the comment about the
true freshman running back dont bag on him he is a beast look up Sam McGuffie on
youtube and you will see him in high school he is a beast. The kid is a straight
athelete. Still i am a confident we will win.
National Respect | 11:25 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
It begins with winning conference championships. If you aren't consistently
winning championships, especially as a member of a non-BCS conference, NOBODY is
going to take your occassional OOC BCS wins seriously.
Did Applachian State gain respect from beating Michigan last season, or did that win just cast national disrespect on Michigan?
What national respect did Utah gain from beating UCLA when they got hammered the following week by UNLV?
Bottom line, it takes both, OOC wins AND conference championships.
As for bowl game wins, here's what an SEC Sports Fan site had to say when rating the Top College Football Bowl Conference for 2007-2008:
"Mountain West: 4-1 (great job by the MWC, but they simply didn't play in any major bowls or face the tough competition the other conferences faced)."
Pat on the head, nice job, now go back to playing in the kiddie pool.
Did Applachian State gain respect from beating Michigan last season, or did that win just cast national disrespect on Michigan?
What national respect did Utah gain from beating UCLA when they got hammered the following week by UNLV?
Bottom line, it takes both, OOC wins AND conference championships.
As for bowl game wins, here's what an SEC Sports Fan site had to say when rating the Top College Football Bowl Conference for 2007-2008:
"Mountain West: 4-1 (great job by the MWC, but they simply didn't play in any major bowls or face the tough competition the other conferences faced)."
Pat on the head, nice job, now go back to playing in the kiddie pool.
Humble Eweete | 11:27 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
Utah has not won a conference title in 3 years. Utah has defeated BYU only once
in three years. Utah is not ranked. BYU talks of running the table, a third
straight conference title, and a BCS bowl appearance. The noble Ute name is
constantly disrespected by Cougar fans. BYU owns Utah at RES.
BYU has the up and coming coach.
And oh yes, I do remember, Collie and Hairline are still open.
So what is all the FEAR about. Come on Cougars, if you really ain't a little intimidated, what are all the abrassive and defensive posts about. What are you really trying to say, and who are you really trying to convince?
Or, can't you just leave an annoying, not so good "little brother" alone?
It doesn't seem like it?
BYU has the up and coming coach.
And oh yes, I do remember, Collie and Hairline are still open.
So what is all the FEAR about. Come on Cougars, if you really ain't a little intimidated, what are all the abrassive and defensive posts about. What are you really trying to say, and who are you really trying to convince?
Or, can't you just leave an annoying, not so good "little brother" alone?
It doesn't seem like it?
Bowls | 11:33 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
Here is their ranking:
SEC: 7-2
Pac-10: 4-2
Big 12: 5-3
Big East: 3-2
Big Ten: 3-5
ACC: 2-6
WAC: 1-3
*Mountain West: 4-1 (great job by the MWC, but they simply didn't play in any major bowls or face the tough competition the other conferences faced).
Sun Belt: 1-0 (Florida Atlantic won the New Orleans Bowl against Memphis)
And their analysis:
You can see that the SEC finished the 2007-2008 Bowl Season as the top college football bowl conference. It set an all-time record with 7 bowl victories in one season.
SEC: 7-2
Pac-10: 4-2
Big 12: 5-3
Big East: 3-2
Big Ten: 3-5
ACC: 2-6
WAC: 1-3
*Mountain West: 4-1 (great job by the MWC, but they simply didn't play in any major bowls or face the tough competition the other conferences faced).
Sun Belt: 1-0 (Florida Atlantic won the New Orleans Bowl against Memphis)
And their analysis:
You can see that the SEC finished the 2007-2008 Bowl Season as the top college football bowl conference. It set an all-time record with 7 bowl victories in one season.
rg: question | 11:35 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
I agree with question? why are they burning up a redshirt with Shak? the utes
have depth in the rb's but i think coach whit wants to really win games
this year and is pulling out all the stops.shak is a great player and i think he
can pull this off if he can break through plays but we should save him for next
year when we may really need him right now i think we have great running backs
in asiata and mack. I am way excited about this season the Utes have depth and
talent i cant wait until they stomp all over the Y and win the MWC as well as go
to a ball game. I dont care(well i do actually) if the utes dont win all games
but it would be so sweet if they win against the Y especially when we are at
home.....GO UTES.....
shak | 11:45 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008
Is Shak going to get playing time? sounds like he's been doing pretty good
in camp
cowboy | 12:05 p.m. Aug. 21, 2008
hey helmet wearing window lickers. byu got smoked by tulsa and ucla before they
miracled the win in vegas in byu vs ulca III. and utes lose to weak teams each
year. point is we don't hear about those zoobie screw ups. you're
both EQUALLY lame. wave from the short bus !!
re: cowboy | 12:37 p.m. Aug. 21, 2008
"hey helmet wearing window lickers"
Is that what you call your football playing friends when they're not wearing their cowboy hats?
I'm glad you're enjoying your ride on the short bus.
Here's my wave back to the short bus.
Make sure your team has been practicing their on-side kick defense. This year we're going to get it right.
Is that what you call your football playing friends when they're not wearing their cowboy hats?
I'm glad you're enjoying your ride on the short bus.
Here's my wave back to the short bus.
Make sure your team has been practicing their on-side kick defense. This year we're going to get it right.
Redshirts | 2:48 p.m. Aug. 21, 2008
I agree with the redshirt for Christopher and Shaq. However, I talked with
someone who saw one of the scrimages in the spring camp, when Christopher was
playing. He apparently was a shifty runner but not much of a passer (not too
accurate). If that is the case, I'm not as worried about buring up a year
on him, if the coaches are thinking he isn't quarterback material. If that
isn't the case and he really does have quarterback skills, then they
probably should redshirt him and let him pick up the system and save him. As
for Shaq, they should redshirt for sure. The only reason not to would be
injuries to the other backs or if he really was head and shoulders above the
other backs.
To the byU fans: why are you sooooo annoying? Who cares about the past bowl records, hiesman trophies, national championships, blah, blah, blah. This year is this year. Witt's tendancies has been to give uninspiring efforts against weak teams. byU's has been to lose all non-conference games against BCS opponents. Which problem would you rather have: consistency (can fix) or less talented teams (can't fix)???
To the byU fans: why are you sooooo annoying? Who cares about the past bowl records, hiesman trophies, national championships, blah, blah, blah. This year is this year. Witt's tendancies has been to give uninspiring efforts against weak teams. byU's has been to lose all non-conference games against BCS opponents. Which problem would you rather have: consistency (can fix) or less talented teams (can't fix)???
Update | 3:53 p.m. Aug. 21, 2008
I just read that they are almost certainly going to redshirt Christopher. I
agree with "Redshirts" assessment, if he doesn't have the right
skill set to be a QB, then put him somewhere else. Accuracy is something that
he should be able to improve on though in his redshirt season. Speed is not
really coachable. If he is anything like his numbers coming out of high school
indicate, I think he will be the future of the team. That is how he was touted
up to this point, as the QB of the future. Hopefully the coaches are just
preparing to have Shak take over if Asiata gets injured (a very real
possibility). Or if he has good field vision, I would feel comfortable putting
him in. What the heck happened in the Air Force game last year? That goal line
run where there was a huge hole on the right side but the RB went to the middle.
Who was that? That is why we have Asiata, for short situation runs.
Go Utes
Go Utes
Re: Zoob Trolls | 4:48 p.m. Aug. 21, 2008
First of all, if BYU doesn't make the BCS this year it will be a laughable
failure on their part. They have no excuse for not being there. Pre-season
rankings and a soft schedule.
Okay thanks... see you when you drop out of the polls.
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Do you think about what you're writing or do you always just spout off stupidity? Guess what, you're part of our "soft schedule". If we have no excuse to not be in the BCS then you're expecting us to beat you? You're right, if we drop out of the polls we'll see you there because you'll never even reach them. Enjoy another mediocre season.
Okay thanks... see you when you drop out of the polls.
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Do you think about what you're writing or do you always just spout off stupidity? Guess what, you're part of our "soft schedule". If we have no excuse to not be in the BCS then you're expecting us to beat you? You're right, if we drop out of the polls we'll see you there because you'll never even reach them. Enjoy another mediocre season.
TheHailstorm | 4:46 p.m. Aug. 21, 2008
Calling All Blue Bloods
Remember Tulsa and UCLA ?
over 50 for Tulsa ?
Consecutive bowl games
Utah 8
1st. To bust BCS
Byu 2 ( barely )
One can tell by the noteriety that Las Vegas Bowl is not much positive exposure , except for the wins by miracles.
Time for some humility.
Remember Tulsa and UCLA ?
over 50 for Tulsa ?
Consecutive bowl games
Utah 8
1st. To bust BCS
Byu 2 ( barely )
One can tell by the noteriety that Las Vegas Bowl is not much positive exposure , except for the wins by miracles.
Time for some humility.
100 years | 5:04 p.m. Aug. 21, 2008
from now we'll all be dead and no one will care but some zoob somewhere!!
let's roll the drums....dahn, duhn,dahn, duhn, duhn,duhn duhn..duhn duhn,
duhn.!!!
conclusion | 5:20 p.m. Aug. 21, 2008
Reading these comments from my BYU brothers leaves me embarrassed to be numbered
among you. Good luck, UTAH!
Brettski | 5:37 p.m. Aug. 21, 2008
Good luck to the Utes in Michigan. I think they stand a pretty good chance.
I think Shak playing this year is going to be no problem. The kid has 4 years and Kyle will most certainly find some more talent in the RB stable.
Reading these posts makes me so very, very, very, very glad that I'm not a byu fan. You people are joke and an embarrassment to LDS members (including myself) and to the state of Utah.
I think Shak playing this year is going to be no problem. The kid has 4 years and Kyle will most certainly find some more talent in the RB stable.
Reading these posts makes me so very, very, very, very glad that I'm not a byu fan. You people are joke and an embarrassment to LDS members (including myself) and to the state of Utah.
Lightning Bolt | 9:20 p.m. Aug. 21, 2008
I predict the Cougars trounce the Uteless Utes...
re: lightning bolt | 10:59 p.m. Aug. 21, 2008
with or without your "mr live my life right" receiver Collie, you
still wont get past the UTE d, and our O is going to put up points and numbers.
either way both teams will be good, but Utah will walk away with a victory if
they are able to run the ball consistently (Mack, Asiata, Shak)
i just dont see it happening | 6:54 p.m. Aug. 22, 2008
sure the michigan O is inexperinenced but that doesnt mean they wont be able to
score on the utah "d". i think the michigan defence will own the game
hands down. also this since everyone is predicting that utah has a chance intead
of michigan blowing them out, the wolverines are going to be prepared (unlike
last year).
Anonymous | 10:03 p.m. Aug. 22, 2008
GO BLUE!!! HAIL TO THE VICTORS
Ute man | 12:55 p.m. Aug. 23, 2008
bywho? Exactly your overrated face it. Your not going to make the bcs or win the
mountain west title because on November 22 when robert Johnson intercepts max
halls lousy pass and takes it to the house to for the games winning touchdown,
how does that sound kitty fans!!!!!
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Now that Carr's gone, our season-starting troubles are hopefully over. Still, the coming season might not start as easily as some are expecting. Don't forget, Utah beat UCLA and Louisville last year, finished the season with a seven-game win streak and has gone 3-0 in bowl games since Kyle Whittingham took over as coach. Our defense will prove superior to Utah's offense, but Utah's defense is not to be overlooked.
This is more of a reality check than the brethern of unchristian comments would want to consider.