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Foster care for Jeffs' apparent child bride

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nosugrof | 11:28 a.m. Aug. 19, 2008
Forcing Barbara Jessop to take the fifth is the lastest dirty trick in the CPS bag of dirty tricks. CPS and their favorite judge rigged this case in advance by suspending the right of discovery. Some of the mothers have reported that children run and cry when the doorbell rings. It is long past time for this to be removed.
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Same Judge | 11:40 a.m. Aug. 19, 2008
This is the same, original judge who allowed this Texas mess to grow to epic portions. No surprise with this rulling.
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Gal50 | 11:46 a.m. Aug. 19, 2008
That a few months after the raid, only seven children are clearly at risk is a big improvement for the FLDS and CPS. It seems that both groups are for the most part on the same page.

Not having read Carolyn's book, which I understand discusses Barbara Jessop, it seems strange that she would risk having her children return to CPS custody, especially when at least one of them prefers to stay with her.

One has to wonder what is going on in the mind of the daughter. Does she still feel married to Warren Jeffs or is she once again a school child? Is she able to date and will she be able to one day get married to someone her own age who is not incarcerated? Will she become an old maid simply because at 12 years-old she was handed off to a man who landed in jail and may await a long sentence? Does CPS require these families to recognize that their teen girls are single again or does CPS allow them to believe that they are married and must simply wait a few years to live a married lifestyle?
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Hope the get it right this time | 12:09 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
I just hope the CPS got there ducks in a row this time and it does not turn into another fiasco.
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Ohio | 12:13 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
Excellent result - I wish for nothing but the best for this child and hopefully her mother will finally face reality and begin protecting her daughter.
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Good decision | 12:14 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
It was especially necessary to get that little girl into a place where she can be protected. The court accomplished that. Good for them.
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MoJules | 12:18 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
I got the impression that this mother was playing the typical games from this group and guess what? It backfired!!! I think that judges do not take to kindly to people trying to hide behind the 5th, hope it was worth it for this mother, to lose her daughter. But she was a good follower, she did what she was told, again. She first did what she was told, to let her 12 year old daughter have sex with an old man, and then she did what she was told to protect him. We are told that a Prophet will never lead us astray, haven't these people figured out that it is not God's will to sacrifice your children?
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Anonymous | 12:17 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
Finally a rational result. Clearly the girl is at risk of abuse. Even if there haven't been any under age marriages in the last two years there is no guarantee that a new profit might be designated to start performing them. There is a risk to this girl. However I don't see the same risk to the boy. The only risk he has is being exposed to an ideology that is at odds with mainstream society. It is a person's actions not their thoughts that should subject them to the loss of their children.
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The Deuce | 12:49 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
Once again we are back with this story that will never go away. First,no one forced Barbara Jessop to take the fifth in her testimony. This is part of a strategy on part of her lawyer. Part of the problem we have here is that the FLDS create more problems themselves than anyone else does. Nor did CPS and "their favorite judge" rig anything in this case. It is not suprising that the FLDS mothers report that children run and cry when the doorbell rings. If this is all they are taught from birth it is not surpising. We could simply clear this up if the FLDS would practice what they preach about being honest. Stand up and tell the truth. I support that each individual has the right to the faith of their choice. But when the laws are broken this is not right and this group has to be accountable. Where are the leaders when this takes place, they run and hide. Not much of a faith to me. I also blame the LDS Church and the State of Utah for not stopping this when they could have back 100 years ago.
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Do women marry twice??? | 12:52 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
If this girl is already married as CPS alleges, what is the risk to her? Girls don't marry twice and her husband is arrested.

Let's be fair to the individuals and their families. what kind of foster home is this girl in and doesn't it increase her trauma to put her in foster care????

No one including FLDS are interested in MARRIED teenagers!
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Not sure | 1:16 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
why Willie is so upset. Warren has been tearing apart families for years. The fact that this girl's mother showed no emotion upon learning her daughter would be taken from her speaks volumes.
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Maybe Someday... | 1:20 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
The vast majority of FLDS followers will realize that forcing young 12- to 15-year-old girls to marry and immediately begin having children is wrong, is abuse, is, in many cases, incest, and is not sanctioned by any true religious doctrine.

Until then, the states of Texas, Arizona, Utah, Colorado, and other states where this type of sexual abuse is occurring, must do all that they can to prevent these abusive practices from continuing.
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to GAL50 | 1:21 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
Excellent questions regarding the 12-year-old's marital status and what is to become of the rest of her life. Since the marriage was "illegal" I hope she gets the help she needs and can start being a kid again.
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Damage Done | 1:31 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
The damage has already been done. The little girl has already been betrayed by the only people she trusts and now she is being manipulated by the very people who abused her or facilitated her abuse.

It would take years, probably a lifetime, of therapy to undo the damage that her parents, relatives, and church leaders have inflicted on her.

It's so sad that nobody within the FLDS community was able to take a stand against this abuse. The only people who have spoken out against this abuse are former members who have been excommunitcated and ostracized from the community and are now labeled as liars by those who still don't understand that they've been abusing their children.

For years.
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Blame the Judge? | 1:32 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
So it's the judge's fault that Warren Jeffs rapes underage girls?
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Bruce | 1:38 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
Good point. Warren is in jail. By the time he gets out, if ever, this girl will be of age.
Where's the danger in her staying at home?
Her mother can't stand by while she marries again so what in the world does the gestapo hope to accomplish by moving her to foster care?
Sick state.
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JND | 1:39 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
Oh, wait! I thought no one would be removed.
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Re: Do women marry twice??? | 1:42 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
"If this girl is already married as CPS alleges, what is the risk to her?"

Duh!!!

The girl is 14 and she's already been married for two years. The people who SHOULD have been protecting her are the ones who forced her into the marriage and facilitated her abuse.

NOT AT RISK???

This is the twisted thinking of the FLDS and their supporters.
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Stanley L. | 1:44 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
Warren Jeffs is a evil false prophet. How can any man do child rapes and make everyone think they are from god? It looks like Warren's god is the devil.
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Hmmmmm!!!!! | 1:47 p.m. Aug. 19, 2008
MoJules: Who said anything about the girl having sex. What people outside of the FLDS think marraige is all about and what the FLDS really believe marraige is all about are WORLDS APART!!!! You who judge, don't even know the facts of what to judge, just your own narrow opinion.
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