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Broken System -V- Vouchers | 9:25 a.m. Aug. 11, 2008
I suspect that miss Morgan would have polled all of her constituents before
casting this vote and every other vote in the house.
Vouchers were all the rage last year. It wasnt until the Voucher bill was past that the UEA made the issue public enemy number 1.
Something has got to be done about the failing grades our schools, Teachers ad administrators are getting in educating our children. We must consider all alternatives or we will be left with nothing but a substandard system with no hope of improvement.
Just because the majority doesnt support an Idea it doesnt mean the idea is wrong. It might mean the public is ill informed or lack the knowledge to make an educated decission.
Scare tactics of the democrats seem to be driving public policy. When the only solution they come up with is to throw money at a failing system then we should change the system before bankrupting families to prop it up.
Vouchers were all the rage last year. It wasnt until the Voucher bill was past that the UEA made the issue public enemy number 1.
Something has got to be done about the failing grades our schools, Teachers ad administrators are getting in educating our children. We must consider all alternatives or we will be left with nothing but a substandard system with no hope of improvement.
Just because the majority doesnt support an Idea it doesnt mean the idea is wrong. It might mean the public is ill informed or lack the knowledge to make an educated decission.
Scare tactics of the democrats seem to be driving public policy. When the only solution they come up with is to throw money at a failing system then we should change the system before bankrupting families to prop it up.
Here we go again | 9:41 a.m. Aug. 11, 2008
Vouchers, at least in the incarnation being peddled by our state legislature and
their special interest lackey--Parents for Choice in Education, amounts to
nothing more than a gigantic tax give-away to private business. It is nothing
more than a scam that Utahn's so easily fall victim to. I didn't have
to have the UEA to tell me that, either, since any reasonable person can figure
that out.
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Bluebird | 10:52 a.m. Aug. 11, 2008
Lets call Vouchers what they really are, welfare for the wealthy. The wealthy
are the only ones that would be able to take advantage of vouchers and every
taxpayer would be paying for it. This had nothing to do with benefitting
education or kids. It was all about some , not all, wealthy people wanting a
tax rebate for sending their kids to private schools. Ultimate greed.
Walker did not listen to her constituents instead she listened to special interests with deep pockets. The voters need to respond by voting her out.
Walker did not listen to her constituents instead she listened to special interests with deep pockets. The voters need to respond by voting her out.
Tired of Teacher Union politics | 11:08 a.m. Aug. 11, 2008
Voucher for the wealthy? You never read the law did you. You just drank the
union kool aid. The "wealthy" could only qualify for a $500 voucher.
Now you don't really think $500 would be the tipping point for a
"wealthy" person to choose private school do you? Not only that, but
if they did take that $500 that left $7000 in the system for the children of
uninformed people such as yourself. Thank you, union, for taking away the choice
of non-wealthy people to choose how they would like to educate their child with
just a fraction of the money it costs for the public schools to do it.
Steven Jarvis | 11:39 a.m. Aug. 11, 2008
This wasn't the teacher Union who defeated vouchers. It was the people of
the state who did. They understood how much was at stake if they allowed such a
program to take root. It would grow and change till it put a stranglehold on
public education funding without giving the taxpayer something in return.
Tired,
You incorrectly state that 7K would be left in the public school. That was proven time and time again to be false and a blatant misunderstanding of 'cookie' politics. The feds send no money and the State allocates their share elsewhere. Besides, it wasn't the union that got the referendum off. The PTA did. Those parents were the real force that got the job done and killed vouchers.
Now it is time to remove the self-serving from office who do not listen. Goodbye Walker.
Tired,
You incorrectly state that 7K would be left in the public school. That was proven time and time again to be false and a blatant misunderstanding of 'cookie' politics. The feds send no money and the State allocates their share elsewhere. Besides, it wasn't the union that got the referendum off. The PTA did. Those parents were the real force that got the job done and killed vouchers.
Now it is time to remove the self-serving from office who do not listen. Goodbye Walker.
spiff | 11:42 a.m. Aug. 11, 2008
Isn't Walker also the one who got the district split legislation ball
rolling? With promises of no new taxes, etc. Now one of the items the new school
board is checking out, is a bond election for the new east side district.....
ElkMan | 12:08 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
We need to insist on good open government in this state. We need to hold
Carlene Walker and all the pro-voucher people accountable. She inttroduced this
law and pushed it in the Legislature with the backing of the GOP Leadership.
Then PTA Members and teachers got the issue on the ballot. The Voucher bill then was defeated soundly by the people.
Then Walker, Curtis and the GOP Leadership then tried to say that the law still was in effect because of the clean up law. The courts then ruled that this was not the case.
The GOP Leadership has tried to cram this Voucher Bill down the throats of Utahns. The people have spoken and they do not want Vouchers.
The Legislature has not represented the will of the average Utahn. This voucher bill would help the wealtthly families but not the poor or minorities.
As a person of color I was glad to have the NAACP come out against vouchers. The Voucher bill was just plain wrong.
The Special Interest Groups had thier paw all over this law. The Parents for Choice and the several Legislators would have benifited personally by this law. Vote all the GOP out.
Then PTA Members and teachers got the issue on the ballot. The Voucher bill then was defeated soundly by the people.
Then Walker, Curtis and the GOP Leadership then tried to say that the law still was in effect because of the clean up law. The courts then ruled that this was not the case.
The GOP Leadership has tried to cram this Voucher Bill down the throats of Utahns. The people have spoken and they do not want Vouchers.
The Legislature has not represented the will of the average Utahn. This voucher bill would help the wealtthly families but not the poor or minorities.
As a person of color I was glad to have the NAACP come out against vouchers. The Voucher bill was just plain wrong.
The Special Interest Groups had thier paw all over this law. The Parents for Choice and the several Legislators would have benifited personally by this law. Vote all the GOP out.
Here - Here | 12:32 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
As a sitting member of a Board of Education here in the state I am proud to say
that I too, supported vouchers. I did it because of the sorry state of our
Public Schools. I did it because I support education for our Public, not just
Public Education. The fact of the matter is, is that those who were
vociferously opposed to Vouchers did it for selfish reasons and had no other
alternative which would even attempt to raise the standard of education in our
Public Schools. There were leaders of the anti vouchers from the USBA (Utah
School Boards Association) and they received their marching orders from the
NSBA (National School Boards Association) which was just like having the NEA and
the National PTA involved. In a nutshell, our Public Schools have been hijacked
by extremist groups which oppose any different opinions and put their faith in
education fully in-line with the Government and not with the local people who
should actually make the decisions. Our local schools are hurting because of
people who will not allow for change, or thought, even for vouchers. There is no
real meaningful dialogue at this point except for vouchers.
Supermom | 12:41 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
Guess what??? There are some people in District 8 who really like the idea of
vouchers. Unfortunately, a lot of them didn't vote. Does anyone seriously
think we have a great public school system here and that we're getting our
money's worth? I've been involved with the schools for years, and I
see nothing but dissatisfaction on all fronts. Incompetence is rampant
throughout the system....including really bad school principles.
We as taxpayers would be better served if we voted for vouchers and let people decide where they want their children educated. And taxpayers would get a huge break! All the system guarantees, as it now stands, is that the wealthy are the only ones who have a choice as to the quality of their children's education. Contrary to Elkman's comments and those of others, people against vouchers are either more concerned with job security or want to deprive others of their right to a better education. I have yet to hear a plausible reason for the status quo...and the nonsense that it only benefits the wealthy is idiotic. They don't need the vouchers but the average working family does.
We as taxpayers would be better served if we voted for vouchers and let people decide where they want their children educated. And taxpayers would get a huge break! All the system guarantees, as it now stands, is that the wealthy are the only ones who have a choice as to the quality of their children's education. Contrary to Elkman's comments and those of others, people against vouchers are either more concerned with job security or want to deprive others of their right to a better education. I have yet to hear a plausible reason for the status quo...and the nonsense that it only benefits the wealthy is idiotic. They don't need the vouchers but the average working family does.
Reason | 12:59 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
I agree with Broken System 9:25. Vouchers were (and still are) a great idea.
The bill passed the legislature and was signed by the governor, but the UEA set
their sights on it. The UEA wields a powerful influence in this state, and it
flows down to influence teachers, PTA, parents, etc. They did an effective job
of turning vouchers into the enemy, and vouchers were then defeated at the
polls.
But after the defeat, people again began saying, �How can we correct our serious education problems?� Sorry, but it won�t happen until an element of true competition comes into the picture, forcing the public schools to improve. And we collectively just defeated one of the best ways to accomplish this.
Also, vouchers are not a deal for the wealthy. A study that the Deseret News published last year (during the debate) showed that, for the majority of private schools in the state, vouchers will pay for all or most of the tuition cost. However, the DN misinterpreted their own data, and therefore presented it the opposite way.
But after the defeat, people again began saying, �How can we correct our serious education problems?� Sorry, but it won�t happen until an element of true competition comes into the picture, forcing the public schools to improve. And we collectively just defeated one of the best ways to accomplish this.
Also, vouchers are not a deal for the wealthy. A study that the Deseret News published last year (during the debate) showed that, for the majority of private schools in the state, vouchers will pay for all or most of the tuition cost. However, the DN misinterpreted their own data, and therefore presented it the opposite way.
Cody | 1:01 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
Spiff, and Karen morgan sponsorded the bill to allow 80% of governments approve
the vote, Clearing the way for jordan to split. And I supported the split.
Walker, Bye Bye | 1:26 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
I live in CH, and voted for Carlene Walker the last time she ran, I wont be
making that mistake again. And Supermom, I never heard a single logical
arguement for vouchers. When your trying to change something you need to provide
the proof that it needs changing, not the other way around. Otherwise your just
like chicken little running around claiming the sky is falling.
Vouchers the only solution? | 1:36 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
To Hear, Hear:
Let me recap for you your voucher "solution" for public education:
1) Having our public schools hijacked by right-wing extremist groups like Parents for Choice in Education.
2) Taking the students who are least expensive to educate, giving their parents up to $3,000 that would have gone to a public school, and sending them on their way to private school leaving the public schools with LESS money.
And you are on a Board of Education? The voters in your area must be eating too many "oreo cookies" as they watch TV commercials paid for by extremist right-wing groups.
Let me recap for you your voucher "solution" for public education:
1) Having our public schools hijacked by right-wing extremist groups like Parents for Choice in Education.
2) Taking the students who are least expensive to educate, giving their parents up to $3,000 that would have gone to a public school, and sending them on their way to private school leaving the public schools with LESS money.
And you are on a Board of Education? The voters in your area must be eating too many "oreo cookies" as they watch TV commercials paid for by extremist right-wing groups.
Mahershalalhashbaz | 1:43 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
The Voucher bill was hard for people to understand. That's why it
didn't pass. I like to tell people to look at it this way to see if it was
good. Who supported them? The Republican party (and their platform by the way)
who passed them. Mitt Romney. The extremely conservative hero (or ought to be)
of all conservatives Arnold Friedman, and the Utah Taxpayers Association. Now
let's look at who opposed them. The extremely liberal groups the ACLU, the
NAACP, Bill Clinton (publicly), the UEA, and the Utah Democrat party. All
publicly opposed them. So it seems that vouchers were a very good fit for a
Republican state like Utah.
Cody, | 1:46 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
As a cottonwood Heights resident, I feel Carlene walker has been a great
senator, And I will gladly support her in november. I really doubt the average
voter cares about vouchers, considering 13% voted on the voucher referendum
while the normal turnout is around 80%.
What a Joke | 2:02 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
to Walker, Bye Bye, You wrote, "... When your trying to change something
you need to provide the proof that it needs changing, not the other way around.
Otherwise your just like chicken little running around claiming the sky is
falling." May I just say that it should read ...When you're
trying.... and ...around claiming that you're just like...
You have just made the point of those who are for Vouchers. We couldn't have said it better ourselves. You are a failure of public education with your spelling and grammar.
You have just made the point of those who are for Vouchers. We couldn't have said it better ourselves. You are a failure of public education with your spelling and grammar.
Joe | 2:03 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
It is interesting that vouchers have historically been promoted as a way for the
intercity poor to move their children away from failing schools, and yet the UEA
and PTA have gone to great lengths here to demonize vouchers as a program for
the wealthy. Mr. Jarvis, if you believe that it wasn't the UEA behind the
defeat of the voucher program, then who was leading that cheer?
It is obvious that the UEA is opposed to anything that could possibly provide an alternative to their public school system, and Walker has crossed them.
And, it appears that Morgan is completely in favor of the UEA agenda.
It is obvious that the UEA is opposed to anything that could possibly provide an alternative to their public school system, and Walker has crossed them.
And, it appears that Morgan is completely in favor of the UEA agenda.
Anonymous | 2:08 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
The Republican Party in Utah has had an agenda against thee UEA for years. Their
whole agenda is designed to bust the teachers union. First they underfund
education for years, then they complain about it. Next came charter schools (
non-union schools). Ultimately they brought out vouchers. Their entire education
policy is designed to undercut the UEA. I am interested in a real education
strategy in the State of Utah that is about our children, instead of petty bias
against a union.
to cody | 2:09 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
Hide and watch what happens.
Anonymous | 2:37 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
not principle
princiPAL
remember you always have a Pal in principal.....
princiPAL
remember you always have a Pal in principal.....
"True" competition | 3:26 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
To Reason:
OK. Let's bring your "true" competition to education. Are you really ready? Here we go:
Public schools can select their students. They can turn away any student for any reason--just like the "truely" competitive private schools can do.
Public schools no longer have to provide (very expensive) special education services, ESL services, behavioral services, alternative placement services, young mother services, etc. to qualifying students just like the private schools don't. Those extremely expensive (and unfunded/partially funded) services could no longer be mandated by the government to foster "true" competition.
Public schools can dismiss any student, at any time, without cause.
Public schools can now use vast amounts of public taxpayer money on advertising so that they can "truely" compete with the private schools that do the same.
Please don't post your tired, old, union bashing "competition" threads unless you would really be in favor of lifting the restrictions currently in place on the public schools!!!
OK. Let's bring your "true" competition to education. Are you really ready? Here we go:
Public schools can select their students. They can turn away any student for any reason--just like the "truely" competitive private schools can do.
Public schools no longer have to provide (very expensive) special education services, ESL services, behavioral services, alternative placement services, young mother services, etc. to qualifying students just like the private schools don't. Those extremely expensive (and unfunded/partially funded) services could no longer be mandated by the government to foster "true" competition.
Public schools can dismiss any student, at any time, without cause.
Public schools can now use vast amounts of public taxpayer money on advertising so that they can "truely" compete with the private schools that do the same.
Please don't post your tired, old, union bashing "competition" threads unless you would really be in favor of lifting the restrictions currently in place on the public schools!!!
Let's See | 4:12 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
Let's see, I am a Private/Public School who only takes on problem children
who are 'asked' to leave because they are considered 'dregs'
of society. I cater to the under privileged. I take them and their Vouchers, I
get Federal Funding.... Yep, it can be done and it can be done quite well. It
is called Job Corps (or the likes). Oh, and by the way, they also pay their
students, expect discipline and make the students into producing members of
society. Yep, it can be done, quite well WITHOUT Unions and other distracting
Public Ed auxiliaries.
East Coast | 4:20 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
The voucher bill was a horrible, misguided attempt to give a bunch of middle
income people, who don't want to sacrifice their vacations/atvs/suvs/big
mortgages for education. They want a hand-out, then claim to be
"conservative Republicans." Anyone who thinks vouchers work has never
researched their performance in other states; it is abysmal. Sure, inner city
ghettos want vouchers, but suburban America fully funds its public schools and
the best universities are full of studens from these traditional public schools.
The Mormons (yes, it was mainly middle class Mormons who can't afford
private but want the prestige of private) who want vouchers are too stupid to
have been accepted to these universities, too stupid to associate with
well-educated professionals, and too stupid (and arrogant) to see that the rest
of us saw through their greed. UEA is one of the few things in this state that
actually helps children. The Mormon families who procreate but don't
parent are a waste. So are their voucher dreams.
Republican for Corporate Welfar | 4:38 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
I am a Republican who supports giving taxpayer money to private businesses
without any strings attached. Support Republican socialism. Support Corporate
welfare. Support vouchers.
Fred | 4:43 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
Lets See, you left out the part about what happens if the kids can't follow
the rules at job corp. They are shipped back to public schools.
I laugh at all you voucher supporters and the theory that the teachers union brainwashed the people, or it was a very complex issue and the voters didn't understand it. I assume you must be with the Overstock.com crew and think that the people of Utah are just to stupid to know what they are doing.
How about a new thought, vouchers was a bad idea, the people of Utah were smart enough to figure it out.
Let Ms. Walker stand on her record, and if she is doing the "will of the people" in her district I am sure she will be re-elected. Matter of fact, I think we will find out in November how many legislators were failing to do the will of the people of their district.
I laugh at all you voucher supporters and the theory that the teachers union brainwashed the people, or it was a very complex issue and the voters didn't understand it. I assume you must be with the Overstock.com crew and think that the people of Utah are just to stupid to know what they are doing.
How about a new thought, vouchers was a bad idea, the people of Utah were smart enough to figure it out.
Let Ms. Walker stand on her record, and if she is doing the "will of the people" in her district I am sure she will be re-elected. Matter of fact, I think we will find out in November how many legislators were failing to do the will of the people of their district.
Are You Sure? | 5:01 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
To "True Competetion" 3:26, Are you sure that you want to make this
argument? This is the very argument that gives credibility to Vouchers. If you
go with this argument then it is apparent that you favor keeping all kids
together, including the students who are wanting, willing and working hard to
excel. By keeping all students together then you hold back those students
mentioned above only because it wouldn't be 'fair' to allow them
to continue. What really is the 'fair' action of our society to allow
a good student to excel without the holding back based on problem students?
Cody | 5:02 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
Several factors going for Carlene Walker,
Brack Obama Is the Democrat Pesidential Nomanee, Democtrats your fooling yourself if you don't think this radical will hurt your candidates.
John Huntsman is on the Republican Ticket, Curently polling at 70+ Percent.
This is a Republican leaning district.
As stated in the article, It is a presidential election year, and More republicans will be voting then other elections.
Carlen Walker is backed by our popular mayor.
Even if Karen Morgan Wins, Democrats will probably loose her house seet ot Jaren Davis.
Brack Obama Is the Democrat Pesidential Nomanee, Democtrats your fooling yourself if you don't think this radical will hurt your candidates.
John Huntsman is on the Republican Ticket, Curently polling at 70+ Percent.
This is a Republican leaning district.
As stated in the article, It is a presidential election year, and More republicans will be voting then other elections.
Carlen Walker is backed by our popular mayor.
Even if Karen Morgan Wins, Democrats will probably loose her house seet ot Jaren Davis.
Stewart | 5:05 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
A side note to all of the discussions above, Karen Morgan has made more effort
in the House to oppose illegal immigration than Walker ever did in the Senate.
Walker has not been a supporter of illegal immigration but she has not spoken
out about it either as has Karen Morgan. Even though she is a democrat Morgan
has out performed many of the republicans on opposing illegal immigration. She
understands the cost that it is creating in the public schools for the
taxpayers.
Emily | 5:11 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
If the UEA truely cared about children that would've supported vouchers.
The UEA is just a bunch of selfish thugs.
If the UEA thought their product was sound, they wouldn't mind the competition. But their product stinks and that is why they get paid so little. You get what you pay for.
The liberals need a poor public education system; afterall who else would be stupid enough to vote for them?
Public schools are for kids whose parents are too poor or too cheap to send them to a public school.
Reality stinks doesn't it....
If the UEA thought their product was sound, they wouldn't mind the competition. But their product stinks and that is why they get paid so little. You get what you pay for.
The liberals need a poor public education system; afterall who else would be stupid enough to vote for them?
Public schools are for kids whose parents are too poor or too cheap to send them to a public school.
Reality stinks doesn't it....
KF | 8:31 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
To Emily:
"Public schools are for kids whose parents are too poor or too cheap to send them to a public school."
I'm guessing you're a product of private schools? Proofread your post before hitting Add your comment.
"Public schools are for kids whose parents are too poor or too cheap to send them to a public school."
I'm guessing you're a product of private schools? Proofread your post before hitting Add your comment.
Cottonwood Heights Native | 8:53 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
Having voted for both Sen. Walker and Rep. Morgan in the past, I will in
November vote Rep. Morgan to replace Sen. Walker. Morgan knows the pulse of her
constituents and represents them on the hill even when it sometimes means that
she stands alone amongst the "D's. Walker votes according to party
leadership even when it means she must vote against her constituents'
wishes. She is not willing to stand alone amongst the "R"s in favor
of her constituents. Morgan is. It takes courage to be an elected official
willing to stand strong in support of those you represent. So, if I must chose
between the two ... I chose the one who has proven this to be the case time and
time again. My vote goes to Karen Morgan.
True Competition | 9:06 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
I would accept a voucher only if the following conditions were met to assure
true competition:
1. The voucher would pay tuition in full at the school. No other payment required, other than registration fees like the public school.
2. The voucher school must accept everyone who applies, just like the public school can't turn away students because the class is already full (over 30 students) or any other prejudicial reason.
3. Teachers must be just as "highly qualified" as the public school.
4. Students must take the same tests and schools must report NCLB tests just like the public school.
1. The voucher would pay tuition in full at the school. No other payment required, other than registration fees like the public school.
2. The voucher school must accept everyone who applies, just like the public school can't turn away students because the class is already full (over 30 students) or any other prejudicial reason.
3. Teachers must be just as "highly qualified" as the public school.
4. Students must take the same tests and schools must report NCLB tests just like the public school.
Elkman | 9:52 p.m. Aug. 11, 2008
The sheep in Utah will vote for any idiot with the big R word in front of
their name. We should be ashamed of having the lowest voting rates in the
country.
I think the reason for the low rates is because Democrats and Independents are sick and tired of the special interest influence over our State Government.
We should be mortified to have people like Curtis, Valentine, and Huntsman running this state. They are all bought and paid for with special interest monies.
We need to throw all these guys out and elect good moderate Republicans and Democrats. Vote for Morgan, Black, Seegmiller, and Beck in South Valley.
Let's hold these Republicans accountable for their voucher mess and the other deals they have put together in their back rooms. God help us all!!!
I think the reason for the low rates is because Democrats and Independents are sick and tired of the special interest influence over our State Government.
We should be mortified to have people like Curtis, Valentine, and Huntsman running this state. They are all bought and paid for with special interest monies.
We need to throw all these guys out and elect good moderate Republicans and Democrats. Vote for Morgan, Black, Seegmiller, and Beck in South Valley.
Let's hold these Republicans accountable for their voucher mess and the other deals they have put together in their back rooms. God help us all!!!
Steven Jarvis | 9:30 a.m. Aug. 12, 2008
Vouchers COULD be beneficial such as the Carson Smith scholarship that provides
assistance for autistic children for private schools. But what we got passed
was the worst kind and that was exactly what Parents for Choice wanted--no
public accountability for tax dollars paid out, and few stipulations about who
gets the money. I only support vouchers if/when they meet a specific special
education or behavioral need.
Had the voucher law gone into effect the only positive outcome would be that enrollment stressed private schools like Meridian would have a chance at being bailed out by the government instead of raising tuition or closing its doors. This is a direct antithesis to the so-called competition argument and a strong reason to never allow full scale vouchers to float in our already cash strapped system.
Had the voucher law gone into effect the only positive outcome would be that enrollment stressed private schools like Meridian would have a chance at being bailed out by the government instead of raising tuition or closing its doors. This is a direct antithesis to the so-called competition argument and a strong reason to never allow full scale vouchers to float in our already cash strapped system.
Duh? | 6:54 p.m. Aug. 13, 2008
Why would you vote for someone who doesn't fully listen to her constituants
and does what she wants anyway?
District 8 voter | 1:32 p.m. Aug. 14, 2008
Sen. Walker has done a great job representing me, and I will support her
again.
Karen Morgan is a puppet of the UEA and way too liberal on every issue I care about.
Karen Morgan is a puppet of the UEA and way too liberal on every issue I care about.
Be more specific | 10:01 p.m. Aug. 14, 2008
To District 8 voter: Is one of those "liberal issues" vouchers?
Morgan's representation of District 8 by voting AGAINST VOUCHERS does not
make her any more of a puppet to the UEA than Walker's voting FOR VOUCHERS
makes her a puppet of the Republican party. Please stick with the facts. They
both have voting records. Vote for the one that has represented your interests
the best. One could argue that any current legislator is a puppet. That
argument gives no concrete information. So, what does "way too liberal on
every issue I care about mean?" Just curious.
Public Educator District 8 | 11:12 p.m. Aug. 14, 2008
To Be More Specific: Some people believe that anyone who supports public
education is "way too liberal". Yet, even Senator Walker in this very
article is quoted as saying she won't ever again support vouchers because
her constituents "hate it". If her constituents "hate it" so
much why did she continually vote for vouchers every year that vouchers came to
the table? I checked the House and Senate voting records. It appears that each
year Walker voted for vouchers, Morgan voted against. I agree with the
Cottonwood Heights Native. Morgan does seem to have a more accurate
"pulse" of District 8 than does Walker.
dvsnowman | 7:38 p.m. Sept. 10, 2008
Senator Walker in her campaign and in this newspaper article repeatedly states
that she listens to the people in her district. I voted for her in the last
election cycle, but I will not give her my vote this time. On several issues I
have contacted her with my opinion and on each and every issue she voted
opposite of my opinion. Seems to me she listens to the lobbyists or her church,
not the voters.
Cottonwood Heights Native | 8:22 p.m. Sept. 18, 2008
To dvsnowman-
Amen. I couldn't have said it better.
Amen. I couldn't have said it better.
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I said it before and I'll say it again.
Anyone that voted for vouchers is NEVER going to get my vote.
That is a message that needs to be sent loud and clear because you know there is some clown writing up his/her new voucher bill right now!