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Nader says he's a victim of 'political bigotry'

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Go Away Ralph | 11:28 a.m. Aug. 1, 2008
As much as George W. Bush has tried to ruin our country, Ralph Nader gets an assist. If it was not for Ralph, Bush never would have been President, and all the horrible things that have happened to us since would not have happened.

Go away Ralph. You've done enough damage, you egomaniac.
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Tab L. Uno | 11:41 a.m. Aug. 1, 2008
I have learned over half a century that nobody can ever get everything one wants. And so with politics. Insistance on the fringe ideas while perhaps laudable are ideals that in reality can never be put into real action because people and society is diverse and different opinions abound. In order to move this country ahead, I have a firm belief there is a fundamental difference between the Democratic and Republican Parties and that their election into office can have a substantial and distinctly different outcomes in this nation's position of health care, the environment, government regulation of consumer products, foods and drugs, on funding of education, even whether we go to war or not. If Ralph Nader hadn't run in 2000, I still believe that our Country would have taken a far different path than it did. Unfortunately Mr. Nader, a person I used to look up to and admire has lost most, if not all of the good will he accumulated over his life. Unlike some people, Mr. Nader appears to have hardened and his thinking become more rigid, intransigent as he ages. It is really sad to see Mr. Nader like this.
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joe | 11:51 a.m. Aug. 1, 2008
few points.

1. the election in florida was stolen. if nader was not there it still would have been stolen. polling showed only 35% of nader's votes would have gone to gore... while 25% would have gone to bush and 40% would have voted for another 3rd party or stayed home.

2. in florida alone 250,000 registered democrats voted for bush. almost 3 times as many votes as Nader got in that state.

3. gore ran a lackluster campaign, blurring the lines between him and bush, causing him to lose his home state and clinton's home state... both of which would have won the election for him regardless of florida.

4.. here's the big one.

presidents, despite popular opinion don't have absolute power.

everything... EVERYTHING that has happened in this country has happened with the help or blind eye of the democrats.

Ralph Nader is not to blame for the war, or environmental violations, or warrentless wiretapping... the politicians in power are...

yet you plan to vote for them again..

sending a message that you feel their actions are acceptable.

good luck with all that.
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Raph's a spoiler | 11:56 a.m. Aug. 1, 2008
If Ralph's not a spoiler, why did Al Gore not also win the electoral college in addition to the popular vote?

Ralph Narcissist Nader. That's why.

At least he can't spoil things here in the reddest of states.
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Anonymous | 12:04 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
To the previous commentors: why do you insist on repeating the propaganda of the democratic party - you sound like empty vessel robots. ralph nader did not cost anyone the election. Gore won in florida. Bush stole the election.. Why don't you blame Gore for costing himself the election since he didn't have the balls to stand up to bush when it was obvious Gore won. Nader has the right to run and people have the right to vote for him. Obviously the people who voted for nader wanted nader not gore. So I don't see how any candidate who people legitimately vote for can cost someone the election. better yet blame the criminals (the bush's George and his brother jeb the governer of florida, who oversaw the counting of votes - blaming Nader is an easy scape goat. get it right!
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Bore-Leiberman | 12:06 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
Gore was too stupid to ask for a full recount which daddy Bush's partisan friends on the Supreme Court wouldn't have allowed anyway.

Bore couldn't win his own state and wasn't entitled to our votes in the first place. Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris purged the voter roles of black people. Then the Democrats voted for war, right wing judges and confirmed a whole host of fascists!

If you don't know the facts it's best to just keep quiet instead of trying to silence the greates American alive.
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Tim | 12:26 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
To Bore-Leibermann,

Follow your own advice. Your post is a waste of bandwidth.
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Ira | 12:30 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
It's time for the fringe parties of the elite, like the Democrats and Republicans, to step aside so that candidates who are in step with mainstream values, like Ralph Nader, and parties that represent the interests of the majority, like the Greens.
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Ralph Lamer | 12:31 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
I CANNOT believe this character. He may have some ideas, but he needs to be more realistic. No one cares about him.
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Mark B | 12:37 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
We owe Nader a debt of gratitude for changing society from the time Dick Cheney was changing his draft status. As for his impact on elections, Democrats need to treat Nader as another not controllable factor, like Utah being full of LDS, the military vote or the local placement of polling places.
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Tom Paine | 12:47 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
Nader has become a bitter old man who's ego demands that he get public attention. He's soiled his legacy and should have stayed with what he was good at, fighting for the consumer.
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To: Ralph Lamer | 12:49 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
Why do you think you speak for all? It is one thing to say YOU don't care about him--it is entirely idiotic to state that NO ONE does.
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Student Nader Raider | 1:10 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
Ralph Nader is an inspiration. He's the only candidate that stands up for the people's interst not the corporation's interst

1 suppotrs cutting military spending already taking > 50 of gov. spending when US is in debt, and invest in reparing infrtrucure etc.
2 end to the war and military and corporate occupation in Iraq within a 6 month timetable, and replace with UN peackeepig not combat force
3 was against the war in Afghanistan
4 no new war in Pakistan
5 no threat of war to Iran
6 no wasting US txayers money funding Israel's military annually to be neutral
7 single payer universal healh care
8 invest in renewable energy (not nuclear)
9 supports Ni4D

As Jon Stewart said:
"ONE THING NOBODY HAS NEVER SAID is that Ralph NADER WASN'T RIGHT. And so we appreciate your service"

I don't care what the Demohawks say, I'm supporting someone who stands up for me, my family and the people.

Vote Issues. Vote Independent.
Vote Ralph Nader/ Matt Gonzalez 2008.
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Ronald A Young | 3:42 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
I have the greatest respect for this Man. Thousands and Thousands of lives have been save by this man and his actions over many, many years. Al Gore may have well Won Florida in 2000 had Ralph Nader not been on the ballot. America has been preserved and saved by the actions of Ralph Nader and the more sane of his supporters. He will not be on the Ballot in Hawaii and is a non issue, except as a write in. Nader for the most part has been a shining light in a World Gone Mad. He is not much of a factor in this race but he is there and deserves respect. A lot of us Love and Care about Ralph Nader.
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BH | 4:06 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
Vote Ralph Nader!!!

If every registered voter, who finds both McCain and Obama to be less than desirable candidates, would vote for McCain, at the very least we can send a clear signal the Republican and Democratic national parties. Nader would not win, but he would get more votes than any independent since Perot.

And if he did win, he couldn't be any worse of a prsident than the other two candidates!!!
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Ralph Lamer | 4:14 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
To: Ralph Lamer. Oh, yes, I see what you mean. You're totally right. I don't speak for everyone. Silly me. I'll pay more attention next time. What I should have said was no one SHOULD care about him as far as his chances for being elected are concerned. There, you happy?
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SLMG | 4:29 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
I find it humorous these comments comeing out of Utah when so many on these posts said they would never vote for John McCain because he had the audacity to run againist the favorite son, Mitt Romney and win even though he is the republican candidate. I read "I will write in Romney anyway", "I will write in Ron Paul", "will vote for anyone one except McCain or Obama" and now all of the ratty comments about Ralph Nader when you are being given a 3 choice. Nader will never be elected president and as much as he doesn't want to be called a spoiler, he can certainly spoil the election for someone.
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Ralf Nata | 6:55 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
This guy's the bomb
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to ralphy | 5:57 a.m. Aug. 2, 2008
You did some serious damage letting the gop win an election. And now you stand up and are going to try to do that again.

Like the hardward store that got hit by the tornado, you have a few screws missing.
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Fair Voter | 8:07 a.m. Aug. 2, 2008
Most of the world's democracies use a spoiler-free electoral system: the preferential ballot, which allows voters to rank candidates in the order of their preference.

FairVote: The Center for Voting and Democracy is an organization that explains and promotes these more competitive and representative electoral systems.
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