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Two men arrested after ax attack on teen

Anonymous | 2:49 p.m. July 30, 2008

Juggalos state wide need to be rounded up for being stupid enough to listen to insane clown posse. What a bunch of idiots.

alana | 3:03 p.m. July 30, 2008

hope they get what they deserve friggin animals

even better... | 3:27 p.m. July 30, 2008

... they should be forced to listen to Hannah Montana

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I'm just juggalo | 3:36 p.m. July 30, 2008

everywhere i go...but you can call me jughead for short!

hmmm. | 3:38 p.m. July 30, 2008

well if thats the case then get all the teenagers who listen to miley cyrus. anyway, lock these guys up and dont ever let them listen to those guys again. plus arrest all the idiots who dressed up for the batman opening in ICP stuff. just losers.

LARPERS | 3:54 p.m. July 30, 2008

Stick to playing it on paper kids

Anonymous | 3:55 p.m. July 30, 2008

Where is a good crossbow when you need one?

katamb | 4:43 p.m. July 30, 2008

Didn't know an axe was a good accessory with your ipod. hum...

Ratchet Hachett | 4:45 p.m. July 30, 2008

Nobody said most of the people in Utah were smart!

Are they sure | 4:53 p.m. July 30, 2008

the accused is the owner of the Axe? My Midevel battle axe was stolen just three nights ago.

Carl | 4:58 p.m. July 30, 2008

My weapon of choice is the broadsword. It is a little hard to hide, but it is very effective.

Gamer | 6:28 p.m. July 30, 2008

The battle axe does 1d8 points of damage, which is respectable. But if they really wanted to cause problem, they should have upgraded to a halberd. 1d12, baby!

Michael Bolton | 7:21 p.m. July 30, 2008

Who honestly attacks someone with a midievel ax? I know all the fights I get into are either with a bo staff or a midievel lance.

Wow | 7:26 p.m. July 30, 2008

Oh what a tangled web we weave. These guys would make any reality show look like Mary Poppins!.

uncannygunman | 7:43 p.m. July 30, 2008

I'm sure there will be a fairly interesting suppression hearing to debate whether an ICP sticker can provide reasonable suspicion for a cop to stop a vehicle.

Darned gothics | 9:12 p.m. July 30, 2008

and Gillespians at it again.

l | 9:57 p.m. July 30, 2008

It's reasonable if they are considered gang members.

Weapons | 10:12 p.m. July 30, 2008

I am partial to chain mesh and a pitch fork myself.

Anonymous | 10:19 p.m. July 30, 2008

What in heaven's name is the world coming to. Reading this story makes we wonder if these people involved in this incident aren't totally crazy!

Life give em life | 10:28 p.m. July 30, 2008

Life in prison, Society wouldn't be safe otherwise.

whadya expect | 10:52 p.m. July 30, 2008

these yahoos know that even if they hack a kid to within an inch of his life, utah citizens will immediately forgive them. they are confident their young men's president will write the judge a letter telling him what nice boys they are and they'll just get a slap on the wrist. surely they didn't intend to kill since those types of people don't live in zion. parents who let their babies cook to death, or run around the dock at lake powell without a life jacket or supervision or men who blow up innocent kids set a prime example for the next generation to see that no matter what you do, it's okay because after all, we all make mistakes and this could happen to anyone. we're only human and we all forget things, feel jealousy and get distracted or use poor judgement. society owes us a second chance, no matter what

Mark | 11:51 p.m. July 30, 2008

Medieval weaponry? I'm sure it is protected by the 2nd Amendment. Remember every man's home is his castle, especially if one has a moat around it.

RE: Gamer | 9:00 a.m. July 31, 2008

I haven't laughed that hard for AGES. Thank you!!!

Re: Gamer | 10:01 a.m. July 31, 2008

Yes, but can it defeat a Level 4 Cure Serious Wounds spell?

People fail to realize the significance of this event: A harmonic convergence of nerdiness, wanna-bee gangbangers, and trailer-park morality.

Jerry Springer, call your office!

What? | 11:24 a.m. July 31, 2008

INTERESTING posts!
I just have one question. Where the heck were the parents of this 17 year old at that time of the morning?

neighbor | 11:57 a.m. July 31, 2008

I am the neighbor to the kid attacked and I just have to say that no matter what the kid may or may not have done, NOBODY deserves to be beaten to death! He just graduated and has his whole life ahead of him, now what? All over a girl - those who attacked him should get the harshest punishment available!

Concerned | 4:33 p.m. July 31, 2008

I am hoping that the family is okay. i went to school with his little sister and when i heard the story i was so scared! i hope that justin will be okay! and that the two men will get what they deserve!

Weapons guy | 6:37 p.m. July 31, 2008

1d20, that's how I roll.

Ethan Anderson | 9:34 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008

A couple years ago I was with a kid that liked ICP and he explained this Clown Card thing to me. There was this one card called the "Great Milko" and he was some sort of god of axes or something, plus he had me listen to some song that was about killing homosexuals with an ax. Anyway I'd say they are obviously a violent gang that should be completely disassembled as quickly and forcibly as possible. Officers wouldn't have a tenuous reason to stop a car with a Tongan Crip Gang sticker on it, so why not a Jungalo sticker. Anyway I saw an obituary for a fallen Jungalo a couple months back, and wanted to know if anyone had a link to it because I wanted to know if he died from wounds related to an ax.

Anonymous | 10:48 p.m. Aug. 2, 2008

Where is the love? Has everyone forgotten tolerance? No person should be discriminated against for the enjoyment of any musical genre. Juggalos are people, too, and in my experience, are the best of people - and the worst of people... just as there are good and bad sides to all things in life.

FREAKshow | 7:57 a.m. Aug. 21, 2008

Unfortunately, as with every scene (I'm not using this in an offensive way, so back off), there's always those few who take to extremes. Just look at all crimes commited in the name of black metal. Oh yeah and Ima be a J-U-G-G-A-L-O til the day I die.

P.S. It's a greataxe that deals 1d12, a halberd is only 1d10.

24 | 7:17 p.m. Aug. 25, 2008

30% of them are violent that is not a small ammount, and what a juggalo is all about is not getting a job, crying about being poor and poverty stricken acting like noone will understand you so instead of making a better life for yourself you decide violence would be a better why to advertise your group of worthless drug addicts

Marv | 8:51 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

If I read this article right, then I think I can say that, these guys being juggalo's, doesn't have anything to do with the cause of this situation.

I read words like: jealousy, contracting a std.
To me that sounds like a guy('s) who got mad because of the situation he was in, and overreacted by using unaccaptable violance.
Probably caused by attitudeproblems due to the circumstances in his life (think: tough youth or things like that).
Maybe icp is a group he relates his own life to. And therefor he is a Juggalo.

So I don't think that the people that are juggalo's are violent because they are juggalo's, but because they are violent (or likely to be) from themselfs.

Marv
(greating from the Netherlands)

Anonymous | 8:20 p.m. Sept. 1, 2008

Marv, not lot of people rationalize like you which is sad.

sie u know me | 1:55 p.m. Sept. 18, 2008

Los/Lettes are peeps who you know got your back through anything.We dont think of ourselves as a cult or gang, we think of ourselves as a family.If it wasn't for ICP's brilliant beliefs of the Dark Carnival then there would be a lot more kids in the world depressed and lonesonesome without anyone they can relate to.I love ICP and will til I die and if you label all of us just because of some of our decisions then your hippocritical.I'm out!

Tha juggla | 5:09 p.m. Sept. 20, 2008

if we're a gang who is our shot callers

Wicked Clown | 5:48 p.m. Sept. 24, 2008

y every1 so steriotypical not all Juggalos are Violent idiots thats just a steriotype we think not a gang of ourselves but rather a family like sie u know me said

$eGa BoY da Wicked Clown

Anonymous | 2:19 p.m. Nov. 3, 2008

if you're gonnna be in a gang, why not be in one that's actually cool?

Rob D. | 1:29 p.m. Jan. 10, 2009

I can not believe the comments made by "whadya expect" I am a close friend of the family of the little girl that drowned at Lake powell, and you do not know the details, and are very twisted to even relate that tradgic accident to something like stabbing and hacking somebody over a girl My boy listens to ICP and I actually like the "MOM" song, but I very much dislike any songs that promote violence, the problem in my opinion is not being CLOSEY INVOLVED in our kids lives, if your kid insists on wearing dirty clothes or carrying a hatchet, or has anger or depression issues, you probably need to seriosly address these things My thoughts and prayers go out to all the family members, but I can't help but hope that the 2 boys get the full punishment allowed by law, they premedatedly hacked that poor boy up, we can't have people capable of such violence walking around free to do it again!

Skiller | 1:06 p.m. May 11, 2009

I'm a Juggalette who has a CLEAN SLATE,graduated and is a designer in the Design District in Downtown Dallas. What this guy did was HORRIBLE and SHOULD be punished- no denying that. But HOW DARE YOU compare me and my Juggalo Family to one person! I listen to Psychopathic (ICP, Twiztid, Boondox, etc. for those who don't know) because I like them. You listen to what you do because that's what YOU'RE in to. This guy OBVIOUSLY had problems before he decided a song told him to hack someone's head off. We all aren't like him. We aren't a GANG. We aren't a CULT. So get that crap out of your minds and out of your mouths! Do some ACTUAL research on us before putting your foot in your mouth.

anynomous | 4:39 p.m. June 13, 2009

first of all, its terrible what happened to that guy, and it should never happen to anhyone, second of all, i love how they dont research who their talking about well and portray it as how even 30% of a group of people who like a certain kindof music are gang related. seriously? maybe in utah? it blows my mind. so many crimes get blamed on the artists that the criminal listens to, but the big problem here is well...the criminal? he was obviously unstable, so stop blaming bands for promoting violence, and start getting help for teenagers.

irish | 2:32 p.m. July 29, 2009

all you people need to qiut judging us juggalos. no one ever said that we are perfect little angels. i doubt any of you who are dissing on us would say that to are face cause you would be scared that the same thing would happen to you. we do not judge you by the music you listen to we judge you by the way you act towards us. we are the outcasts who do not fit in unless we are with other juggalos or luggalettes yea, people mizz out sometimes some worse then others but i am sure that you have mizzed out on someone before so try to get to know us instead of judgine us get a proper knowledge of how we think and how we act not what the papers say.

just common sense | 10:04 a.m. Sept. 26, 2009

To Skiller- do some actual research before putting your foot in your mouth?- are you serious?
First if you are an educated woman why would you want to associate yourself with a group that is considered to be a gang? Why be in an affiliation with any group that is involved with criminal activity- unless you want your CLEAN SLATE marked up with arrests? surely in Dallas there are more things to do than idolize profanity found in pathetic music lyrics! people who consider themselves "Juggalos" are often quoted calling themselves 'FAMILY' well guess what- so do members of some of the most violent gangs in America. Grow up and get involved with an organization or movement that will better society not be a drain on our community services by distracting our law enforcement and using man power to monitor your little "FAMILY" for violence.

I took your suggestion and this is what I found published about your little "FAMILY" :
They're grubby, self-proclaimed white trash. Many are un- or under-employed. WOW what a group to associate with!!!! Another suggestion for the Juggalos posting here- spend some time getting educated then your posts might actually make sense SAD!!

InsaneChainsaw | 7:40 p.m. Oct. 14, 2009

Before you say that juggalos are crazy, look up what a juggalo is. I think the same way that I did before I even listened to the Insane Clown Possee. ICP just backs up alot of my thoughts and the way I am. I guess in technicality I was juggalo before i knew of ICP.

Tahnee Boyd | 10:38 p.m. Oct. 17, 2009

This is all over a girl...not because they were or were not Juggalos. Anyone can use any kind of weapon on anyone at any point in time. This girl cause all these problems..they simply did not attack because they were or weren't Juggalos. Reading this story makes me mad because these guys could have very well been Juggalos...but they were not doing as they did because of that. This girl should not have done the things she did and if she didn't nothing would have happened in the first place..this is a crime of passion, not influenced by music.

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