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Who cares | 4:50 p.m. July 28, 2008

The only people who care about this are LDS people who like to throw their self righteous "better than you" attitude in the faces of everyone else. There's a big world out there, and the vast majority has never heard of BYU, and doesn't care to.

Senor | 4:55 p.m. July 28, 2008

Wow Bacchus...that was very self righteous and arrogant of you to refer to someone else's beliefs as "irrational superstition." I don't drink because it makes you dumb. I like remembering when I was two. I went to the U of U because I have issues with being required to follow the rules, but I would never make fun of them for trying to do what they think is right.

And Ema...when did the natural drive to continue our species become a bad thing?

Alex | 4:57 p.m. July 28, 2008

I love it how if you give your fellow cougars high-fives, you are self-righteous and arrogant. Unless you are cynical about BYU, you will never by humble enough for some. Heck with the cynics. Go Cougars! Way to go!

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No kidding? | 5:31 p.m. July 28, 2008

Duh...

Of course BYU is the most sober university in the country. Kids know they canï¿½t drink when they apply and anyone who does gets thrown out.

Are they getting some kind of trophy for this? :-p

Alex | 5:44 p.m. July 28, 2008

Who cares:

Honestly, why do a few high fives among loyal cougars make you so bitter? Why do YOU care? I don't congratulate BYU on this because I am expecting that the sophisticated elites like you will condescend to my puny level. Instead I do it because I am a loyal alumnus who is glad to hear that, unofficially at least, our reputation for sobriety is being maintained.

Why don't you go save the world instead of responding to unenlightened sober pond scum like us?

GO BYU | 6:22 p.m. July 28, 2008

I live in Asia.I just heard about BYU from one of the missionaries.He studied there before joining the mission.Reading from comments here,i guess its a good U.knowing the missionaries in a brief time make me wonder if the mormon people mostly are good and polite ,i mean in UTAH. Since BYU is belong to LDS,i think the students mostly are LDS too. Here in my place i know some of LDS who love pretending to be good,to be holy.i am sick of their attitudes.thats why i dont join the church although the elders tried hard to get me in. For me, always regards and praising oneself is the most arrogant attitude and i cant stand it.

Curious | 7:20 p.m. July 28, 2008

I was happy to attend BYU for 5 years pursuing a 4 year degree. I was pleased to be surrounded by people who believed as I did. That IS who I was surrounded by. No, I didn't hang with Jim McMahon...

I am happy now to live "in the world" and to try to be a (positive) contributing member of my mostly non-LDS community. Three of my four children currently attend BYU with pretty much the same point of view. Enter to learn, go forth... well you know the rest.

Some of "you people" are really bitter. While I am sorry that I and my brothers and sisters may have done something to even partially justify your animosity, nonetheless, it is YOUR animosity. I should think you could lead a more fulfilling life by getting over it.

This is a good thing. Really.

mattten | 8:13 p.m. July 28, 2008

Sounds like nuthin's changed at the U. When I was a student there in the College of Business in the late 70's and early 80's many of the profs had consulting gigs on Fridays. They left on Thursdays to go wherever they were going, and they did not keep their office hours. Always made me wonder why they were even teaching when they could make more money in a day consulting than in a month teaching. If they loved teaching so much the least they could do was to keep their office hours. BA 1977, MBA 1981

Chicago Perspective | 8:14 p.m. July 28, 2008

I love how much people who have no affiliation with BYU care so much about BYU.

This is good stuff

Ema | 9:20 p.m. July 28, 2008

I had no desire to go to BYU, and so I did not apply. I most definitely could have gotten in if I had wanted to, probably with some sort of scholarship, judging from my high school peers who were awarded them. I find it interesting that so many people think a dislike of BYU's style means that we are "jealous." I loved the U.

BYU Perspective | 9:42 p.m. July 28, 2008

RE: Mr. CHIGACO PERSPECTIVE

I've been there believe me. It is easy to hide stuff and make it look all kosher when you have been raised that way all your life. Just because its hidden doesn't mean it isn't there!

Anonymous | 9:46 p.m. July 28, 2008

In the absence of academic freedom, at least BYU students have something to be proud of. A little sobriety never hurt anyone.

Don't be fooled | 10:19 p.m. July 28, 2008

I did my undergrad at BYU. Now I am a grad student at a school that is in the top 20 of the party schools. There is nothing good about the preoccupation with alcohol that people have here, there is only regret and remorse. Go Cougars.

Anonymous | 10:27 p.m. July 28, 2008

I will tell you straight up I drank regularly when I attended BYU, and it was always at parties with at least 15-20 other BYU students doing the same thing! Usually it was a friday night so we would sober up on saturday so we would be fine for giving our talks or administering the sacrament on sunday in church. But many times it was a saturday so I would have a hangover for church. but that was no big deal. for talks all you have to do is take a few lines from several Conference talks, and lessons are easy because all you do is read from the manual and ask thoughtful questions for discussion. I was elders quorum president for 2 years at BYU while I was drinking on weekends. it is pretty easy to do without getting caught, and my grades didn't suffer at all.

Personal Commitment | 11:08 p.m. July 28, 2008

Good for the people who drank at BYU...

Good for the people who didn't...

The choice to drink or not is a personal commitment, and both sides got what they wanted. Evidently everybody wins...

Oh, by the way, for those who did. Way to dishonor your honor, and still be proud of your lies and deception. It's sad to see that there are some who are proud of their lack of character and lack of personal integrity. And yes, the lack of commitment to a code of honor that you promised to keep is far worse than the drinking.

And P.S. The article didn't claim people don't drink at BYU. In general, the drinking is much less than other schools.

Re: Say What? | 11:16 p.m. July 28, 2008

I think you mistakenly thought I was refering to people as "trash" when what was meant was booze, drugs, porn, profanity, etc...

It's time to take out the trash and stop calling evil good and good evil.

"Say What" Are you serious? | 11:36 p.m. July 28, 2008

"Also taught @ BYU, HUMILITY?!?!?!?" while all these BYU grads are bragging on this forum about their Alma Matter topping the list of "stone cold sober" schools?
Isn't "stone cold sober" just a synonym for "BO-RING"?

I was Mormon during college, but after my Zoobie sister told me I just HAD to go to BYU to find a worthy mate, it made me feel like Conan the Barbarian going to a Meat Market instead of a real University.

I'm glad I went to a University that wasn't on this list of the most BO-RING Universities in the nation.

Gator | 12:12 a.m. July 29, 2008

To Re: Matthew,

Actually, BYU is ranked 79th in the nation for its academics (which is the one ranking that matters) and is not one of the top universities in the nation, public or private. There are plenty of public universities (U of Michigan, UVA, UNC, U of Texas, UC Irvine, U of Georgia) that are ranked higher than BYU. And of course, there are all the ivies. I'm sure LDS love it, but for academics, the nation's elite students don't even consider BYU. It is too mediocre. Check out US News and World Report for its 79th place.

Houston LDS | 12:43 a.m. July 29, 2008

These comments have cracked me up. ROFL!!!! Funny stuff ALL!!!! I attended BYU and all the mis perceptions are simply incredible. Love it. Keep up the good work Ladies and Gents of BYU. And all you haters, keep the jokes rollin!!!!!

Stan Zman | 12:57 a.m. July 29, 2008

Perhaps if BYU had some Athletic victories to celebrate (Like the Nation's top schools) in the past 11 years they wouldn't have topped the list of perenial "stone cold sober" (kill joy) schools for the 11th year in a row.
I mean, let's face it, when you're up there with military academies, it's really not something to brag about people!

BYU | 1:02 a.m. July 29, 2008

I graduated from BYU and I loved it there! I considered myself blessed and was humbled by the knowledge that thousands of other people would love to occupy my spot on campus. As for the random comments about BYU students being self righteous,arrogant,hypocritical,etc; water off a cougar's back!
I found my degree from BYU was a huge asset for me. It was a solid plus in my interview with a multi-national chemical firm! In my first interview, I was asked about BYU's famous honor code. I believe I got the job because of BYU's honor code! I am making a very good salary. So, what did I miss?

Re: anonymous | 1:21 a.m. July 29, 2008

I feel sorry for you! Does the word "honor" mean anything to you?

Convert | 1:28 a.m. July 29, 2008

I can say I never received any joy from drinking alcohol before I joined the church! I personally know many people who have paid dearly for drinking..lost jobs, health problems, broken homes, car accidents, even deaths..the list goes on! Why would anyone who has any brains drink alcohol? It is so very distructive! Why do so many defend it? I am free from the grips of alcohol at last! Now I really have joy!

JJ | 4:52 p.m. July 29, 2008

Occasionally I "catch" your comments and am always mystified as to why so many people (and obviously the same ones) feel it necessary to constantly trash others. God hopefully allows us time to mature. College is notoriously not the time when we show our better selves no matter where we attend. Those who "catch the vision" of loving our neighbors really have the upper hand. Most of us won't be able to attend Ivy League schools, BYU or other privately owned institutions. Still, we have been able to become productive citizens, make wise choices and take the steps necessary to be in good places. Most of the drivel isn't worth looking at. AND far too many of you who are staunchly supporting your sacred universities seem to have skipped writing class. But I forget, spelling and logic are not part of this discussion.

gri | 8:46 p.m. July 29, 2008

People tend to be down on what they are not up on. Good for BYU.

Mr. Sober | 10:02 a.m. Aug. 4, 2008

Thanks BYU -- You make a difference!

Personally speaking, getting sober again requires too much work and causes too much pain for family and loved ones. I applaud your stand!

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