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Jimmy's Grandmother | 12:14 a.m. July 26, 2008
Again, I feel that the Jazz had to match the offer, but they need to deal one of
their players to give playing time to CJ. He has a lot of potential and I feel
that this could be his year to come out. But who do you trade? Every player at
the 2 and 3 makes their case for why they are on the team. Time will tell.
Anonymous | 12:41 a.m. July 26, 2008
I think part of proving that you can play, CJ, is by showing up at the Rocky
Mtn. Revue. It served Ronnie Brewer well last year--he got the starting nod!
Mr. B. | 1:21 a.m. July 26, 2008
The Rocky Mtn. Review is overrated and overhyped. Really, how much improvement
can you get from 5 games and a few practices? It's the old Jerry Sloan
guilt trip--"you didn't attend the revue like I had to, I'm going
to hold it against you"--this is how Sloan operates, he's the Judge
Judy of professional coaching. Watching their very average performances this
week, do you think Almond and Fesenko have gotten that much better? Not likely.
CJ was smart to avoid the revue. Let's hope this contract is the best
choice for all parties involved...although for some reason, he reminds me of
Chris Morris...we'll keep our fingers crossed. And Jerry, make this your
last year...PLEASE!
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Anonymous | 1:41 a.m. July 26, 2008
c.j. miles did the right thing in not showing up for the review this year. you
don't play for a team if you don't have a contract with them. and
ronnie brewer played in one rocky mtn. review game last season - before he got
injured. that is one of the main reasons why miles avoided the review last
season: injury risk. it is typical for most young jazz players to play in two
rocky mtn. reviews and miles has already done that. ronnie brewer did not earn
his starting spot because he attended the rmr. he earned his starting job in
training camp, NOT the review. if the rocky mtn. review meant everything,
deshawn stevenson would be a superstar in this league. c.j. miles will
eventually be one of the jazz's starters. if not this year (kirilenko
trade+shifting brewer over to small forward), or in the next few years.
Bad Idea Jazz!!! | 1:51 a.m. July 26, 2008
No shows at the last 2 Rocky Mountain Reviews was a sign that CJ was not
dedicated to the Jazz (and getting better) and would rather play elsewhere. $4
Mil is way too much when we have other contracts (D Will) and Boozer next year
that desperately need the cap room! They should have just given Almond more of a
chance as he has more than proven he deserves it!
For those that don't know, matching OKlahoma's offer means they can not package and trade CJ! :(
He may turn into a decent player, but I am sick of the Jazz over paying for "potential"!!! Did they not learn their lesson on OVERPAYING for Ostertag's and Kirilenko's WAY OVERPAID contracts? At least DWill and Booze proved they deserved their money!
For those that don't know, matching OKlahoma's offer means they can not package and trade CJ! :(
He may turn into a decent player, but I am sick of the Jazz over paying for "potential"!!! Did they not learn their lesson on OVERPAYING for Ostertag's and Kirilenko's WAY OVERPAID contracts? At least DWill and Booze proved they deserved their money!
Good Decision | 4:45 a.m. July 26, 2008
This is a smart move by the Jazz. Keeping C.J. and his potential can't
hurt the team, and he's one of Deron's boys. However, another
frustrating offseason from management. As long as LHM is making money with the
Jazz, he doesn't need to extend himself and take risks to pay for a title
contender. He knows if he keeps the team at a playoff level the fans will keep
coming with the delusional hope of a championship. This roster will NEVER sniff
a title becuase they are so soft. Name the last NBA team to win a title while
being soft? It's frustrating to be a Jazz fan, but I'll still support
them because I love D-Will, Millsap, Harpring, and the heart that they have.
Just wish thier teammates would follow. Deron needs to jump on some teammates
and demand more physical, heart-filled play this year, or else it's another
patented Utah Jazz average run through the playoffs. Is it too much to ask Jazz
brass that us fans get one legitimate chance at a championship roster? I think
we've been loyal in this small roster, now show us the same commitment with
a title squad...
MISTAKE | 4:47 a.m. July 26, 2008
I meant small MARKET, not roster, my bad
trade harpring | 6:56 a.m. July 26, 2008
harping misses layups way too frequently yet sloan won't pull him out. cj
misses one shot and he pulls him out. also, from what i hear, he has a bit of a
negative attitude.
Jazz fan in east coast | 7:21 a.m. July 26, 2008
Although I've always loved Harpring's toughness, he needs to go. He
doesn't have the lateral quickness needed to defend guys, and the Jazz have
a log jam of SG/SF. This, of course would be after they get rid of Collins, who
absolutely sucks. He's 6'11 and can't even dunk
Timmy's Jockstrap | 7:32 a.m. July 26, 2008
Timmy feels that CJ mad a mistake by not participating in the Revue. He hopes
that Miles will compensate by working hard between now and then.
Please | 7:53 a.m. July 26, 2008
Lets not bring up the review anymore. C. J. is MILES beyond the review.Get with
it Sloan/fans.
Anonymous | 8:08 a.m. July 26, 2008
But then on the other I hand I know Brewer was under contract last year, he had
no choice. He had to be there. Technically, just as this year, Miles had no
contractual obligations to the Jazz to be at the RMR. I salute his courage. He
looked out for his best interest. Now the rest of the summer will tell
something. Will he work with passion to improve his game and show up at
pre-season camp in game condition? Watch and see. I think he will.
Parkit | 8:13 a.m. July 26, 2008
The Jazz are not going to exceed the luxury tax. With Millsap coming up next
year this move indicates that the forward projected thinking O'Connor
mentions leads the Jazz to believe that we will lose wither Boozer or Okur. The
money is not there to do it all.
That said this is the year we either make it or not. All of the proverbial eggs are in one basket.
That said this is the year we either make it or not. All of the proverbial eggs are in one basket.
Jimmy's Same Sex Partner | 8:20 a.m. July 26, 2008
Jimmy ssp thinks that Jimmy is an idiot when it comes to the Jazz. This was a
great move, just you watch.
granny5 | 8:19 a.m. July 26, 2008
big mistake in signing CJ. He has not played RM Review in the two years. He
probably got the offer simply because DWill and him are great friends. Now the
bench sitter makes more than some of the starters. So I guess next year (or
before) we say goodbuy to Brewer, Milsap, Almond, and perhaps Korvor to give the
crybaby what he wants.
The big money makers usually turn out (at least with the jazz) to not be worth the money once the ink is dried on the contract, i.e. AK!
The big money makers usually turn out (at least with the jazz) to not be worth the money once the ink is dried on the contract, i.e. AK!
Anonymous | 8:40 a.m. July 26, 2008
CJ and his agent thought it was the best business move to NOT play in the revue.
You people that get on him for that are short-sighted. He wasn't under
contract and didn't want to hurt his chances for getting signed by someone
because of possible injury. Money is the biggest factor, not loyalty and anyone
who says they'd do any different is an idiot. Good move CJ and Jazz! Cant
wait for the season.
Over Paid? | 8:52 a.m. July 26, 2008
Wouldnt you agree that everyone player is overpaid? My main question is, why do
you care what the Jazz are paying CJ? It doesnt affect you, and you dont write
the check. 4Mill a year is cheap. By the way, you are an idiot.
ID JAZZ | 9:39 a.m. July 26, 2008
Sloan added. "We have a lot invested in him and will see where he is
� just like anybody else ... I'm happy he came
back."
I wonder how hard Larry Miller and O'Connor had to twist Sloans arm to say that last comment.
Common People RMR does not make the player at best it shows the coaches where a players development is at. That is why they resigned Miles because the RMR showed coaches how one dimensional of a player Almond still is.
A bigger concern fo us the fans and the Jazz should be the center position. KOFO and FES still are only D-league material and that leaves the Jazz with same problem as last year and that is no inside presence. Probably should have made a stab at Camby. Jazz will have the same results as last year until there is a defensive presence in the middle and thats not Okur or Collins.
I wonder how hard Larry Miller and O'Connor had to twist Sloans arm to say that last comment.
Common People RMR does not make the player at best it shows the coaches where a players development is at. That is why they resigned Miles because the RMR showed coaches how one dimensional of a player Almond still is.
A bigger concern fo us the fans and the Jazz should be the center position. KOFO and FES still are only D-league material and that leaves the Jazz with same problem as last year and that is no inside presence. Probably should have made a stab at Camby. Jazz will have the same results as last year until there is a defensive presence in the middle and thats not Okur or Collins.
akk | 9:42 a.m. July 26, 2008
I'm not a big Miles fan but I have no problem with this signing. The Jazz
have alot of good players that they can trade. Hopefully Kevin O'Connor can
package 2 or 3 players for a better one. Were're at the point we can give
up more than a guy is worth as long as it is the right guy. Thats a good
position to be in. To me the only untouchables are Deron and Milsap(because of
his ability and lower salery). Go get them Kevin!!!!!!!!!!!!
TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!! | 10:00 a.m. July 26, 2008
I am LMAO! Timmy's Jockstrap, Jimmy's Grandmother, and Jimmy's
Same Sex Partner, OMG how funny!
I agree Jimmy should retire it, but it does bring out some humor in others.
CJ, time will tell whether or not the Jazz messed up. But, until they can clog up the middle and play D, don't expect more than another annual playoff appearance. Hopefully, Booz didn't play D because of injury. I am not excited to see him or D-Will in the Olympics because it is a big injury risk and training camp is only a few short weeks away after the Olympics.
BTW, all players are way over-paid.
I agree Jimmy should retire it, but it does bring out some humor in others.
CJ, time will tell whether or not the Jazz messed up. But, until they can clog up the middle and play D, don't expect more than another annual playoff appearance. Hopefully, Booz didn't play D because of injury. I am not excited to see him or D-Will in the Olympics because it is a big injury risk and training camp is only a few short weeks away after the Olympics.
BTW, all players are way over-paid.
rvalens2 | 10:14 a.m. July 26, 2008
C.J. is now a Jazz man for the foreseeable future. It's time for Jazz fans
and Sloan to move beyond the tired old mantra of "C.J. did not participate
in the Rocky Mountain Review." Hopefully, after the fall veteran's
camp, we will no longer hear that.
Between now and then, I believe the Jazz will try and make one more trade to open up a spot on the team and/or to shore up the interior defense.
Who is likeliest to be involved in that trade? Collins.
Between now and then, I believe the Jazz will try and make one more trade to open up a spot on the team and/or to shore up the interior defense.
Who is likeliest to be involved in that trade? Collins.
N-Dog | 10:34 a.m. July 26, 2008
What you have to ask yourself is 'did sitting out the RMR help CJ
personally?' We all know it's about the individual, even Coach Sloan
is about himself first (i.e. keeping a job) and then about others - hence his
persistence to play vets over youth. The fact is, by sitting out and not
committing to the Jazz, CJ showed OK that he wasn't stuck with the Jazz and
they had the confidence to offer him a good deal. If you had a chance to make
$50,000 extra per year by staying out a week from your job as a janitor, even
though your employer might not like it, wouldn't you do the same? I'm
happy for CJ that he has a good contract. He seems like a nice kid with a good
attitude. Anyone know how many years Harpring has left on his contract? I
think that's the real reason for the signing. One concern though: If CJ
got this deal, how much is Ronnie Brewer going to ask for next year. Look out
luxury tax!
Told you so.... | 10:56 a.m. July 26, 2008
Jazz would match CJ, Harpring and AK are on the block.
L.A. Jazz Fan | 11:23 a.m. July 26, 2008
I think this was the right move. I have not seen CJ play a lot; but when I have
seen him play he is impressive. He also seems to have the right attitude about
coming in and working hard to help the Jazz.
For those who worry about the money issue: D-Will is locked up and so the main worry is done. If you are concerned about Boozer or Okur there isn't much the Jazz could do; they'll make an offer to them and try to lock them up. If Boozer and Okur want to win and help the Jazz to a title they will stick around. Also, I know money talks but so does the promise of a title. If Boozer wants to win the title he may be more inclined to stay to help the Jazz. Miami is no closer to a title.
And for those who think Boozer is greedy answer me this: Why is he playing for the US national team in the Olympics? It's for pride; he's made a three-year commitment. If he were greedy (like some other players who refused to play) he would be vacationing right now. Go CJ and go Jazz!!!
For those who worry about the money issue: D-Will is locked up and so the main worry is done. If you are concerned about Boozer or Okur there isn't much the Jazz could do; they'll make an offer to them and try to lock them up. If Boozer and Okur want to win and help the Jazz to a title they will stick around. Also, I know money talks but so does the promise of a title. If Boozer wants to win the title he may be more inclined to stay to help the Jazz. Miami is no closer to a title.
And for those who think Boozer is greedy answer me this: Why is he playing for the US national team in the Olympics? It's for pride; he's made a three-year commitment. If he were greedy (like some other players who refused to play) he would be vacationing right now. Go CJ and go Jazz!!!
RWT | 11:29 a.m. July 26, 2008
Ak, Collins, fes, price or Knight is going to be traded, not all, but at least
one or two of them.
Go Jazz!
Go Jazz!
trekkie | 11:29 a.m. July 26, 2008
What are Jazz management/coaches thinking? I could see maybe if the
Sonics/Thunder gave him 1.5 Million or whatever the veteran's minimum is.
But it makes no sense to pay CJ almost 4 million per season to be a 4th-string
benchwarmer behind Korver, Brewer, Harpring and whoever else when they already
have to pay AK, Boozer, Okur, and DWill so much. Now they won't be able to
re-sign Millsap who was actually in the rotation the last few years.
This is a bad deal for CJ too. A young player like him would be much better off on a rebuilding team where he'd be more likely to get some meaningful playing time. Do the jazz really need Korver, Brewer, Almond, Harpring, AK, Price, AND CJ? Why not just pick 3 and give them all the minutes. You only have so many roster spots available and money under the cap. Now the Jazz depend on other teams to make any moves at all because they can't afford to sign any free agents. Wrong and stupid move to make.
This is a bad deal for CJ too. A young player like him would be much better off on a rebuilding team where he'd be more likely to get some meaningful playing time. Do the jazz really need Korver, Brewer, Almond, Harpring, AK, Price, AND CJ? Why not just pick 3 and give them all the minutes. You only have so many roster spots available and money under the cap. Now the Jazz depend on other teams to make any moves at all because they can't afford to sign any free agents. Wrong and stupid move to make.
Jimmy's recycled pantyhose | 11:33 a.m. July 26, 2008
Maybe it's about the individual, but if they were going about it optimally,
then Sloan would play young players a bit more (see Brewer over a 38%-FG Fisher)
and CJ might consider playing in the RMR so that he can showcase his skills.
Then again, CJ did play 10 MPG last season, so there is some tape on him,
including a 29-point performance vs. Washington.
Oklahoma City signed him partly because former Jazz staffer Troy Weaver encouraged them to.
Oklahoma City signed him partly because former Jazz staffer Troy Weaver encouraged them to.
After Thinking...Good Choice | 11:34 a.m. July 26, 2008
At first I thought this may not be a good decision but, after thinking about it,
I think this is a wise move. We have several versatile players that can move to
different slots and with the SF position weak (thanks to Andrei) you can swap
CJ, Korver, or Brewer (or Harpring) into that slot as needed. Sloan could switch
around lineups to go big or small at will to match any team. This is provided
Fes & Kofo make it to challenge any bigs.
This is a smart move. We will have the versatility of sizes and talent to beat any team. We will have a great run this year.
This is a smart move. We will have the versatility of sizes and talent to beat any team. We will have a great run this year.
trekkie | 11:38 a.m. July 26, 2008
If they like CJ so much then why did they trade for Korver last year? Big deal
if they invested a few years and 2nd round pick money on him, just cut your
losses and set CJ free.
If you're not going to play him then don't give him 15 million dollars to be an insurance policy 'just in case' someone gets hurt or leaves. Almond or Price can do that job just as well.
If you're not going to play him then don't give him 15 million dollars to be an insurance policy 'just in case' someone gets hurt or leaves. Almond or Price can do that job just as well.
Drew | 11:44 a.m. July 26, 2008
What? I don't get this, but I trust that Kevin O'Conner knows what
he's doing. One thing is for sure, it's time to unload somebody. There
are too many mediocre third-stingers on this team.
to: Bad Idea Jazz!!! | 11:46 a.m. July 26, 2008
"For those that don't know, matching OKlahoma's offer means they
can not package and trade CJ! :( "
Not true. Teams can sign and trade a player within 48 hours of signing a restricted free agent, but after that, would have to wait until December 15th of that year. It's in the NBA's Collective Bargaining agreement. Go read it.
So if we hear something by Monday about the Jazz moving Miles elsewhere, don't be shocked. Personally I would like to get Emeka Okafor to shore up our interior defense, but doubt the Jazz could pull off that deal.
Not true. Teams can sign and trade a player within 48 hours of signing a restricted free agent, but after that, would have to wait until December 15th of that year. It's in the NBA's Collective Bargaining agreement. Go read it.
So if we hear something by Monday about the Jazz moving Miles elsewhere, don't be shocked. Personally I would like to get Emeka Okafor to shore up our interior defense, but doubt the Jazz could pull off that deal.
byron | 11:53 a.m. July 26, 2008
This is a good play for the jazz it would have been foolish to develop a project
like CJ for three years only to let him go for nothing. CJ is an asset and I
think he's worth 3.75 mil a year, maybe not next year, but I doubt that
Harpring will play past next season which instantly frees up 20 minutes a game.
Plus, Korver's true position is small forward and Brewer and CJ can play
play it too. The bottom line is this: right now CJ is 21 year old kid who if
drafted this year would have gone lottery, they couldn't just give him
away- this gives the Jazz depth, insurance, and higher trade value.
JazzFanInHouston | 11:56 a.m. July 26, 2008
Krzyzewski may have found a way to put the Jazz over the top. He is playing
both CP3 and DWill together with DWill at SG.
"When those two guys are in together, either one of them can bring the ball up, and either one of them can pressure the ball," Krzyzewski said. "They seem to like to play with one another, and the intelligence of your team is at the highest level when you have two guys like them on the court."
Either Price needs to morph into CP3 or we need Pargo or another PG who can light it up. We are in a position to make a trade with the CJ signing.
We need Brewer to develop a 3 or we need CJ to step up and beat Brewer out. If we can't play D maybe we can out score them. Can Brewer, Almond or CJ learn point?
We need Koufos to learn PF. He is working hard and may be able to play by the end of the year.
"When those two guys are in together, either one of them can bring the ball up, and either one of them can pressure the ball," Krzyzewski said. "They seem to like to play with one another, and the intelligence of your team is at the highest level when you have two guys like them on the court."
Either Price needs to morph into CP3 or we need Pargo or another PG who can light it up. We are in a position to make a trade with the CJ signing.
We need Brewer to develop a 3 or we need CJ to step up and beat Brewer out. If we can't play D maybe we can out score them. Can Brewer, Almond or CJ learn point?
We need Koufos to learn PF. He is working hard and may be able to play by the end of the year.
depth | 12:16 p.m. July 26, 2008
This is the deepest Jazz team I've ever seen. I know they usually like to
keep one roster spot open in case of a serious injury but they have enough good
talent at every single position this year that I highly doubt they could pick
somebody up on the wire that's better than what they already have- at every
position. They also have a lot of trade value on this team, personally I
don't think they need to make any more trades, I think all the parts are
there to make a championship run if they can learn how to win on the road and
play defense. IF
Re: to: Bad Idea Jazz!!!! | 12:18 p.m. July 26, 2008
You're wrong. Here's the exact words from the CBA:
(g) After exercising its Right of First Refusal as described in this Section 5, the ROFR Team may not trade the Restricted Free Agent for one (1) year, without the player�s consent. Even with the player�s consent, for one (1) year, neither the ROFR Team exercising its Right of First Refusal nor any other Team may trade the player to the Team whose Offer Sheet was matched.
Now the interesting thing is the "without player's consent" meaning if CJ doesn't object then they could still trade him to any team EXCEPT the Hornets.
(g) After exercising its Right of First Refusal as described in this Section 5, the ROFR Team may not trade the Restricted Free Agent for one (1) year, without the player�s consent. Even with the player�s consent, for one (1) year, neither the ROFR Team exercising its Right of First Refusal nor any other Team may trade the player to the Team whose Offer Sheet was matched.
Now the interesting thing is the "without player's consent" meaning if CJ doesn't object then they could still trade him to any team EXCEPT the Hornets.
? | 12:34 p.m. July 26, 2008
Reading some of your posts, I realize why most of you are not in management of a
basketball team.
Korver is a spot up shooter, not a consistent full time player. Too Streaky, when he is hot, play him,when he is not, he'll sit.
Both AK and Harpring are injury risks. Harpring is getting older from the pounding and wont keep up the same intensity as previous. Slow with a bad back. AK is lanky with a frail frame, and has to deal with refs on a nightly basis.
That leaves the best options as CJ, Brewer and Almond as your most consistent players. CJ and Brewer have been in the system now, why start over with Almond.
CJ and Brewer will be your most dependable players over the next few years.
Not to mention all 5 players can play both SG and SF.
Korver is a spot up shooter, not a consistent full time player. Too Streaky, when he is hot, play him,when he is not, he'll sit.
Both AK and Harpring are injury risks. Harpring is getting older from the pounding and wont keep up the same intensity as previous. Slow with a bad back. AK is lanky with a frail frame, and has to deal with refs on a nightly basis.
That leaves the best options as CJ, Brewer and Almond as your most consistent players. CJ and Brewer have been in the system now, why start over with Almond.
CJ and Brewer will be your most dependable players over the next few years.
Not to mention all 5 players can play both SG and SF.
CJ's real #1 Fan | 12:46 p.m. July 26, 2008
The Jazz will be better with CJ. Deron wanted him here, and it wouldn't be
a good thing to do something Deron didn't like right after he signed his
new deal. As for the Revue - according to what Deron said during the first Revue
game, CJ had been playing with Lebron in New York. I think CJ and the Jazz
profit more from him working out with real NBA players than playing glorified
pick-up games with guys hoping to be the 15th player on an NBA team. The
Revue's a waste of time - CJ could have played this week and been awesome
and then taken the rest of the summer off and still showed up to camp out of
shape or whatever else Sloan comes up with to hold against him.
TicketHolder | 12:58 p.m. July 26, 2008
Hey to: Bad Idea Jazz!!! uhh the Jazz can trade CJ Miles, with his consent, to
any team they want. They wouldn't have to wait until December 15th. They
could trade him tomorrow if he consented. The only thing he has going now for
him is a new contract and he has to be informed of the trade and consent to
trade. He has a year of consent from the day the contract was signed (Friday).
The only other stipulation is that he can't be traded to another team and
then traded back to the Jazz during that same year. I think you better read it
XI (g) instead of listening to idiotic sport radio stations where the hosts make
up trade rumors all day and couldn't tell you anything about the collective
bargaining agreement or where to even find it online.
Educated One | 1:17 p.m. July 26, 2008
I can't figure out why I keep reading these comments. Some are half way
intelligent but most of you really have nothing interesting to say.
Why is everyone so obsessed with trades?Do you realize that every game they lostin the playoffs, they were within 4 points with under four minutes to go. I bring this up to make a point. WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE THE TEAM. If the Jazz were an old team that was on the decline, a trade for some youth might make some sense. What's going to happen when you give youth like Ronnie Brewer, CJ Miles, DWil, Ronnie Price, and Paul Millsap a year of experience? THEY'RE GOING TO BE BETTER!!!
The Jazz have a legit chance at a title next year with the current team.
Why is everyone so obsessed with trades?Do you realize that every game they lostin the playoffs, they were within 4 points with under four minutes to go. I bring this up to make a point. WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE THE TEAM. If the Jazz were an old team that was on the decline, a trade for some youth might make some sense. What's going to happen when you give youth like Ronnie Brewer, CJ Miles, DWil, Ronnie Price, and Paul Millsap a year of experience? THEY'RE GOING TO BE BETTER!!!
The Jazz have a legit chance at a title next year with the current team.
Educated One Continued... | 1:33 p.m. July 26, 2008
Last year I predicted that Deron would be an All star (wrong) and all NBA
(correct). I also predicted that the Jazz would win 56 (close) and lose in the
second round (correct). Here are this years predictions...
1. Deron's even more amazing... 22 and 11 All Star, All NBA, Probably second team.
2. Booz and Memo both have career years (can you say contract year?) Not significantly better than last year.
3. RonnieB and CJ are both going to progress nicely. Both will average double figures. Some people will say that RonnieB should be an allstar (he'll average 16,4,4,and 2.5 steals), but he won't make it. CJ will be an All Star in 4 years (seriously).
4. Andrei and Kyle Korver will be the exact same players they were last year.
5. Morris Almond will play between 5 and 8 minutes per game, in the NBA.
6. Harpring will play about 12-15 minutes per game.
7. Millsap will earn a 4 year 20 million dollar deal.
The Jazz will have the highest Offensive Rating in the history of the NBA (yes, even higher than the Suns a few years back).
1. Deron's even more amazing... 22 and 11 All Star, All NBA, Probably second team.
2. Booz and Memo both have career years (can you say contract year?) Not significantly better than last year.
3. RonnieB and CJ are both going to progress nicely. Both will average double figures. Some people will say that RonnieB should be an allstar (he'll average 16,4,4,and 2.5 steals), but he won't make it. CJ will be an All Star in 4 years (seriously).
4. Andrei and Kyle Korver will be the exact same players they were last year.
5. Morris Almond will play between 5 and 8 minutes per game, in the NBA.
6. Harpring will play about 12-15 minutes per game.
7. Millsap will earn a 4 year 20 million dollar deal.
The Jazz will have the highest Offensive Rating in the history of the NBA (yes, even higher than the Suns a few years back).
Educated One | 1:46 p.m. July 26, 2008
Predictions continued...
The Jazz will win 59 games in a tough western confrence and earn the number 2 seed (maybe #3).
LA-60
UT-58
NO-58
Houston-57
SA-55
Portland-52
GS-50
Dallas-47
Phoenix-43 miss the playoffs
In an amazing 6 game series, DWIL will prove he is the best point in the NBA (even though CP3 will be the MVP), and the Jazz will beat NO in the second round.
The conference finals is where I start to get fuzzy. If LA signs Bynum, the Jazz are going to the finals (because LA will trade Odom for cap purposes, which will especially benefit Boozer). If LA does not trade Odom then the conference finals will be a six or seven game series that is too close to call.
The winner will play the Orlando Magic in the Finals (seriously), and will win the championship in five games.
This is our year!!! CJ will be great!!! Stop complaining and get excited.
The Jazz will win 59 games in a tough western confrence and earn the number 2 seed (maybe #3).
LA-60
UT-58
NO-58
Houston-57
SA-55
Portland-52
GS-50
Dallas-47
Phoenix-43 miss the playoffs
In an amazing 6 game series, DWIL will prove he is the best point in the NBA (even though CP3 will be the MVP), and the Jazz will beat NO in the second round.
The conference finals is where I start to get fuzzy. If LA signs Bynum, the Jazz are going to the finals (because LA will trade Odom for cap purposes, which will especially benefit Boozer). If LA does not trade Odom then the conference finals will be a six or seven game series that is too close to call.
The winner will play the Orlando Magic in the Finals (seriously), and will win the championship in five games.
This is our year!!! CJ will be great!!! Stop complaining and get excited.
james | 1:48 p.m. July 26, 2008
Much of made of AK's contract..and to justify the claims of being overpaid,
some dummy brings up his sobbing during the 2007 playoffs.
First of all, his max year deal was well recieved by most fans, as the was the top Jazz player, in demand by other teams, as well as a great shot blocking defender.
However, there was unpublicized tension between AK and DWill, and AK's touches and scoring effectivness is based on DWill's passing. If anyone watched the 2007 Houston playoff series, they will see AK wide open, AK filling the lane..and DWill looking elsewhere.
regarding the resigning of CJ...don't underestimate DWill's influence in this matter...and yes, the Jazz will have the same logjam at the 2 and 3, with KK's losing pt...the Jazz's best outside shooter.
First of all, his max year deal was well recieved by most fans, as the was the top Jazz player, in demand by other teams, as well as a great shot blocking defender.
However, there was unpublicized tension between AK and DWill, and AK's touches and scoring effectivness is based on DWill's passing. If anyone watched the 2007 Houston playoff series, they will see AK wide open, AK filling the lane..and DWill looking elsewhere.
regarding the resigning of CJ...don't underestimate DWill's influence in this matter...and yes, the Jazz will have the same logjam at the 2 and 3, with KK's losing pt...the Jazz's best outside shooter.
Great Move | 2:14 p.m. July 26, 2008
Keeping CJ is a great move on many layers. It makes DWill happy, CJ has a ton of
upside and 4mill is not alot to keep a player like CJ. Its better to have to
much talent than not enough! CJ can be a star in the NBA, just ask the dream
teamers what they think of him, they really like him. CJ should be a starter if
Sloan will just let him and I predict that when the Jazz win a title in the next
few years that CJ will be a huge reason why they do.
PETE | 2:34 p.m. July 26, 2008
Earlier comment hit the nail on the head..This team is tooooooo SOFT.There is no
tuffness on this squad.That's why throughout the year many players are hit
with flagrant fouls,(even D-WILLIAMS GOT LEVELED) AND NOTHINGS DONE ABOUT IT.We
need to bring RAJA BELL ONTO THIS TEAM FOR HIS TUFFNESS & DEFENSIVE
SPECIALTY.The Jazz players will not get knock to the floor with any more hard
fouls with RAJA BELL on board....like the earlier guy stated in his comment;
"a soft team wins nothing" & UTAH'S SOFT......Bring back RAJA
BELL MR. O'Conner PLEASE !!!!!!!
JazzFanInHouston | 2:52 p.m. July 26, 2008
The Jazz have not done anything yet that will cause them to beat LA, NO or SA in
the playoffs (Houston is also better than last year).
Teams that win do not have duplicate players but do have some versatile players who can cover injuries. CJ is versatile, the only rub is that now he is more expensive.
The Jazz need a trade that will create more defense or more versatility in their offense or both.
Boozer has trouble with tall PFs. That is when we need 3 point shooters the most. CJ can help. If necessary we can play Korver at 3 and CJ at 2.
AK is working on his shot. Brewer needs more range. Brewer, CJ and Korver need more D. Price needs to improve. We need interior D.
I expect a trade to bring in some D at PF/C if the Jazz are serious about winning the conference.
I think NO maybe the best team right now. The Jazz are the 4th or 5th team. They need at least one more piece.
Teams that win do not have duplicate players but do have some versatile players who can cover injuries. CJ is versatile, the only rub is that now he is more expensive.
The Jazz need a trade that will create more defense or more versatility in their offense or both.
Boozer has trouble with tall PFs. That is when we need 3 point shooters the most. CJ can help. If necessary we can play Korver at 3 and CJ at 2.
AK is working on his shot. Brewer needs more range. Brewer, CJ and Korver need more D. Price needs to improve. We need interior D.
I expect a trade to bring in some D at PF/C if the Jazz are serious about winning the conference.
I think NO maybe the best team right now. The Jazz are the 4th or 5th team. They need at least one more piece.
BJ Jazzy Rasta | 2:55 p.m. July 26, 2008
NOW GO GET OKAFOR in a sign and trade!!!
On the block: Collins, Harpring, AK47.
Problem is...Charlotte already has a player similar to AK47 in Gerald Wallace.
But in theory, if it could be done, we could win the title this season!
On the block: Collins, Harpring, AK47.
Problem is...Charlotte already has a player similar to AK47 in Gerald Wallace.
But in theory, if it could be done, we could win the title this season!
Anoymous | 2:57 p.m. July 26, 2008
I'm not part of Jazz management but I liked the Jazz matching for CJ Miles,
I think he's worth it and if Kevin O'connor thinks everything will
even out in 2009 in spite of the move then I think he's right. If not well,
live and learn. The Jazz better make a good run '08-'09 for the
championship. It's gotta be soon, this roster won't last but maybe one
more season. Most important is keepiong Deron Williams happy. If he wants CJ,
let's keep him!!!
Boozer or Okur will probably bail out in their last year, who knows maybe both will. Sad it takes two big men to make one good big man. The two are never defense minded enough to make a difference in the paint. Maybe the Jazz can trade them for one all around big man? Who wants to play for the Jazz??
Boozer or Okur will probably bail out in their last year, who knows maybe both will. Sad it takes two big men to make one good big man. The two are never defense minded enough to make a difference in the paint. Maybe the Jazz can trade them for one all around big man? Who wants to play for the Jazz??
JIMMY'S COPYCATS . . . | 3:29 p.m. July 26, 2008
are just jealous because because he provides us with intelligent articuate posts
while their mouths are overflowing with mindless dribble
Jimmy's Prosthetic Limb | 3:49 p.m. July 26, 2008
JPL wants to see CJ and his real legs on the floor this season, not making $4
million to sit the bench!
Jimmy's G Spot | 4:07 p.m. July 26, 2008
Jimmy wants to see CJ take it to the rack!
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