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GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!! | 10:08 a.m. July 25, 2008

Face it republican sheeple, Obama will be the next President of the United States. He will lose in Utah but Utah is not relevant anyway. I look forward to the Iraqi withdrawal and the economic recovery. To the republicans: Good bye and don't come back.

if they don't like it ... | 10:09 a.m. July 25, 2008

A 48-year old black guy named Obama who leans left is going to be the next president of the United States - any fool can certainly see that.

If this is not to the liking of a culture that STILL believes in the antiquated Mark of Cain thing, they can always move to Canada or Mexico.

Crazy! | 10:12 a.m. July 25, 2008

Obama wants the world to get along with each other and people on here think he's starting a one world government. Are you guys for real, afraid of your own shadow!. McCain could have made the exact same speech and you all would be saying he was awesome. Give it a break.

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Anonymous | 10:13 a.m. July 25, 2008

Obama is smart enough to know that no nation can exist on its own. Especially in a a global economy.

His understanding of how interdependent our world is sets him head and shoulders above the old neocon ideology of isolationism.

He will be a good, intelligent and compassionate leader who is already beginning to heal the negative image the nasty neocon movement has place at the feet of America.

Richard Nibbler | 10:16 a.m. July 25, 2008

Berliners were also captivated by Adolph Hitler's speeches.

Just because someone is a great orator, that does not mean they'll be a great leader. Hitler seemed like he would become a great leader, but the people were fooled by his speeches.

Obama is a gifted orator, but just because he can captivate a crowd does not mean he's the next best thing since sliced bread.

Please: TOMMIE | 10:17 a.m. July 25, 2008

Are you people all that backwards, like no president has ever given a speech in a European country before.

McCain n Mitt has my vote's | 10:22 a.m. July 25, 2008

HOWEVER I DON'T TRUST THE U.S. State Department "Acting Deputy" spokesman, Gonzalo R. Gallegos, with my life and a nuke in Cuba's hands. The federal government is too far removed from everyday contact with the people. They don't know what's going on in the street and have no first hand knowledge of what's happening in America. We need a strong federal government to protect our country from foreign invaders, to maintain national law enforcement, to build our interstate highways and all the many other things which can only be handled by a central authority. There definitely needs to be federal law about discrimination, uniformity of business practices, prosecution of interstate crimes and the like. But the problem with Washington is that it has become a monolithic juggernaut of self-serving, outdated, self-inflated men and women, who lack the morality and the courage to stand against the crowd when the crowd is wrong. Self-preservation has become the norm in D.C. and political partisanship, right or wrong, has become the coin of the realm.

DID Obama address this on TV in Germany?

"NOPE". - Wht not?.

TOMMIE | 10:24 a.m. July 25, 2008

to Please: TOMMIE:

Others may have given speeches is there, but there are two things different, one those men were actually Presidents and had a reason to go there, second, they weren't taking their money for compaigns, and it is WRONG to allow people outside of this country to influence the election.

Obama may very well be the next president of this country, but I honestly pray to God that he won't be. He will destroy the moral foundation of this country; chrisianity will be pursued to the death by him, he will destroy America, and plead with God that he will intervene in softening the hearts of other Americans in this election, everyone looks at Obama for the wrong reasons, he doesn't want to serve America, he wants to destroy it! He seems to think that we are here to serve him and Congress, well guess what? He is there to serve us, and better get that through his head!

Fearmongering | 10:30 a.m. July 25, 2008

Always a great way to control the masses and make them snap into line.

-----> Look Shiny keys!

M. Allred | 10:41 a.m. July 25, 2008

I do not believe one man, Bush, is singly responsible for the Nationï¿½s woes. Nor do I believe, one man, Obama or McCain, can save us all. One president, 100 senators and 435 congressmen, 536 human beings who were voted into office by you and I. Do not forget Supreme and State Court justices, and district judges who make decisions.

Entitlements, in part, push this Nation to chaos. Those who believe they are ï¿½owedï¿½ are a catalyst to this Nationï¿½s problems; as well as: frivolous lawsuits, borrowing money beyond our means, divorce, moral ineptitude etc. Our self-centered decisions, stacked on top of each other, bear great weight against this Nation. What happened to self-responsibility and hard work? I am amazed at how many people point to the president as the source of all bad (it is easy to do, feels good and it removes conscience and self-responsibility) and yet, with the other hand, point to a presumptive president saying he will be the single source of good. Blame Bush, no, look at your own individual actions. Obama or McCain the savior? No. Only we, as a people, collectively, can change this nation.

I love it! | 10:40 a.m. July 25, 2008

A black guy named Obama commands a European audience with his grace and respectful style.

Dubya gets booed and jeered everywhere he goes.

Are you hardcore far-righters paying attention?

Well Spoken | 10:53 a.m. July 25, 2008

Um, er, ah, isn't it, um, hmm, ah, nice to have, um, a, eh, a presidential candidate, that, um, er, eh-hem, can speak, er, ah, uhhhh, articulately?

Re: CTObserver | 10:57 a.m. July 25, 2008

You have to remember that Americans were easily mesmerized by Bush as he cunningly led this country into a fictitious war.

Anonymous | 11:08 a.m. July 25, 2008

Wow! There sure are a lot of deluded Bush-loving Republicans still out there! Wake up! Obama is trying to rebuild American prestige in the world, not tear it down. I think Republicans have one major trait in common -- they are afraid of positive change of any kind. Instead, they want the US to be more isolationist, xenophobic, and militaristic.

TOMMIE | 11:09 a.m. July 25, 2008

To M. Allred: You made an excellent point, and I agree with you. The President isn't the source of all power, but for some reason this election, I have a feeling that if Obama is elected, it will have an extremely differant influence on this country like never before. I personally believe that the fault does fall on all of us of where our country is, especially economically, not only do we contribute to that, but elect the people to make those decisions, which makes it our fault when they make the wrong one, we just need to get all of those people out of office, we need new people, ordinary people, because from the ordinary do the extraodinary come, and that is what will turn this country around.

M. Allred | 11:11 a.m. July 25, 2008

Neoconservatism is a political philosophy that emerged by those who rejected social liberalism, moral relativism, and the ï¿½new leftï¿½ counterculture of the 1960s. It influenced the presidential administrations of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, representing a realignment in American politics, and the ï¿½defection of some liberals to the right of the political spectrum;ï¿½ hence the term neo, which refers to being ï¿½new.ï¿½

The term neoconservative is also used as a criticism against liberals who "moved to the right," these were also known as ï¿½Reagan Democrats.ï¿½ Senator Joe Liberman who left the democrat party to become an independent, may be considered a neocon, he moved to the right of liberal political spectrum.

Since neo = new; the new left (the president and the government should be all, should fix all and be omnipotent) would be known as neoliberal, would it not? Or is this still old lib thinking? Remember when Michael Dukakis was running for prez? Claiming to be a member of the ï¿½Lï¿½ club was dangerous. What the conservatives are feeling now, the liberals felt during the Dukakis campaign; this all ebbs and flows.

re: M. Allred 11:11 | 11:21 a.m. July 25, 2008

This neocon is nervous about the moniker Neoconservative.
Yet he thinks he's entitled to slam people with the word "liberal" (aka Democrat) every chance neocons get.
These types are a hoot!
A total [blankin'] hoot!

Lewt | 11:24 a.m. July 25, 2008

I wonder if those who fault Obama for not visiting the US military wounded in Germany are aware that GWB never visits any military hospitals, even the ones in cities where he LIVES.

RightOfRight | 11:27 a.m. July 25, 2008

Without his cue cards, Obama sounds illiterate. I am not saying he is, he just sounds that way. He has trouble answering the most simple of questions. If this was President Bush stumbling over his word, like Obama, the media would be having a field day with it. Even with all of the positive reporting on Obama from the news media in recent months, the race has tighten considerably according to the latest Rasmussen poll. I can't imagine what the polls would be if the roles were reversed and McCain had been getting all of the positive press and Obama the negative.

The mainstream media should be embarrassed by their overt fawning over Obama. Even liberals have conceded that the MSM is in the tank for Obama. Maybe it is time to clamp down on the MSM like the Dems want to clamp down on right wing talk radio.

Answer Please | 11:28 a.m. July 25, 2008

To all you Obama Kool-Aid drinkers please answer a couple of questions...

How can you vote for a man who is closely allied with a man who bombed the Pentagon and who would do it again (Ayers)?

How can you vote for a man who stayed allied with a preacher, and called hi his "spiritual advisor", for 20 years who constantly berated the "whitey" and the USA, and is outwardly racist?

How can you vote for a man whose wife was given a fantastic education only to say that she can finally be proud of America now that Obama is running?

How can you vote for a man who came out against a "surge" (albeit in an unpopular war) to say that the USA has lost the war only to find out that the "surge" was highly effective and the total right thing to do?

How can you vote for a man whose principles have caused so many, and more that what can ever be mentioned, wrong decisions?

The Kool-Aid must taste good to you, because it is rancid to the rest of us.

Anonymous | 11:47 a.m. July 25, 2008

Senator Obama will be the next president of the United States and by the way he is focusing on uniting the world and this country, will be a good one.
America has grown tired and weary of the Rush Limbaugh style of divisive let's focus on getting them dang liberals! politics that today only appeals to the reddest of the rednecks in America.

And the answer is... | 11:49 a.m. July 25, 2008

We have a choice.

We can vote for a demonized Senator from the Mid-West. (Thank you very much Rush and Sean)

Or,

We can vote for a man(?) who committed adultery while his crippled wife was at home with the kids.

Independant voter | 11:48 a.m. July 25, 2008

How can someone who is RUNNING for president of the United States of America go and preach a campaign speech to a country we have had to reign in twice in the last 100 years? Speaking to them about OUR woes? I think he should be tried for treason! Are we not a soverign nation? What is he REALLY trying to do? Working with the same country that has brought more than its share of world woes (Pardon the pun), Is he really running for the spot Adolph left open? He better worry about home first!!!

Dudes | 11:49 a.m. July 25, 2008

I don't understand why folks don't all like Obama. After all he is just for World Peace. That profound an most unusual desire that sets him appart from all other politicians should drive us to the polls in droves.

C'Mon | 12:02 p.m. July 25, 2008

To Lewt 11:24, C'mon, you can do better than that. Obama is running against McCain, or have you forgotten? He is not running against Bush. Given all the bashing of Bush you'ld think that the looney left is still in a love affair with bashing instead of moving forward. Come to think of it, all they can do is bash and not move forward... Hmmm, maybe Obama is on to something, bash and keep the focus from his own horrible and dangerous faults.

A Sheep-clothed Wolf | 12:02 p.m. July 25, 2008

Hussein is an egomaniac gone amok. He is not only not the president of the United States, he is not even officially the nominee of his party. Have you Hussein idolizers noticed that notwithstanding all the hype, he hasn't even got a bump in the polls. Of course, the America-hating German throng cheered Hussein. He was his usual "articulate", clever, deceitful self in the subtle way he criticized his own country. The Germans loved it, after all, that's what they came to hear and Hussein didn't disappoint them. The American electorate is too smart to be deceived by the Hussein camp flim-flammers. So 200,000 like-minded German socialists showed up to cheer and get a glimpse of the great one. That should surprise no one. Landslide, you are delusional. Americans have about four months to vet the real Hussein, and he will be thoroughly vetted for what he is, a European socialist wannabee. Hussein will NOT be the next president. Get used to it.

Tommie: HAH! | 12:06 p.m. July 25, 2008

Guess what anonymous at 11:47, you guys sit there and say the country is getting sick of Rush and Sean, well why is it then that they still have millions of listeners, and that liberal talk shows don't ever make it without the government bailing them out? The fact is, most Americans do still hold those views, because most Americans still have foundation built on morals, not in the of equality like all of you liberals like to say.

Tommie | 12:12 p.m. July 25, 2008

To Dudes: I can tell you why they don't like Obama, because what he says and what he does is differant. He says he wants world peace but all I hear about is disarming America, yeah like that will bring peace! The guy is racist, I have heard so many sound bites of him saying the most racist comments, and I can ensure you, I'm not voting for him because he wants to take my guns, my God and my liberty, lets see how far he gets with that!

Obama=Peace? | 12:19 p.m. July 25, 2008

Obama want "Peace" at what cost, I mean, he wants to pull out Iraq, is that going to bring peace? No! Why? because terrorists WILL take over that country, yeah a real peaceful solution. What Obama wants is power, that is all.

My $0.02 | 12:28 p.m. July 25, 2008

I see Obama's European tour as being similar to what Geo.W did after the last election. Before results of the election were finalized he stepped in and started acting as if he had won the election. Al Gore should not have sat in the background as he did.

Obama is out on the world stage giving speeches and speaking w/ foreign diplomats acting as if he is the next president. McCain had better not set on the sidelines too long and allow this image of Obama as president to take root.

I agree with Obama that we should not be in Iraq. But now that we are there the USA has a responsibility to see it through, to help that country to become stable. To just pull out would be a disaster for the Iraqi people.

Prophecy has it that the condition in the USA will become very bad, that the constitution will hang by a thread. I think Obama will take us there more quickly. My vote is for McCain.

The rest of the story | 12:38 p.m. July 25, 2008

"Not only did he bash his own country, he has canceled his visitation to our wounded soldiers in Germany."

Sorry, I corrected your misspelled "canceled."

Faux News didn't tell you the complete story. Obama felt that he was on a campaign trip. It would be wrong to reduce injured Americans soldiers to campaign photo ops.

You can disagree. Values was part of Obama's reasoning. I understand why conservatives might not understand, with their any thing to values that has gotten America in to a mess.

Tommie | 12:41 p.m. July 25, 2008

To My $o.02: With the prophecy you speak of, more must be done than electing McCain, we as liberty believing americans must stand up and take back our government, by force of words, meaning we tell our government what we want and how they should be doing it. I have no doubt that the Constitution will hold on with less than a thread if people don't start defednign it

Ricardo | 12:50 p.m. July 25, 2008

I would love to vote for Obama. He's young, articulate, full of hope. He's the anti-Bush, statesman-like in appearance and generates a feeling of goodwill. I can get excited about a candidate like him.

Unfortunately Obama does not share my ideals and principles.

So I am going to do the right thing and vote for the candidate who is more closely alligned to my beliefs on taxes, abortion, national security, etc.

I wish John McCain had the charisma Obama does, but I'm more concerned about my children's future.

Michelle Obama's illegal acts? | 2:51 p.m. July 25, 2008

DO THE MATH HERE, 200 into $1.3 million = I THOUGHT THAT WAS ILLEGAL?. Interesting. Barack believes that he must fight for the world as it should be, a world where together we work to reverse discriminatory laws, she said at a Manhattan fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee's Gay and Lesbian Leadership Council. Michelle Obama also drew a connection between the struggles for gay rights and civil rights. Michelle Obama's speech brought a standing ovation from the crowd of about 200 donors, who raised about $1.3 million, organizers said. Some like the REAL bratwurst, while other's like "another type of a sausage".

Tom Paine | 2:54 p.m. July 25, 2008

I for one don't want an old man who needs a walker, who cheated on his crippled wife, who wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years, who wants to bomb Iran, and who has absolutely no knowledge of the world outside of Arizona, as our president

Sokol | 4:40 p.m. July 25, 2008

As much as I enjoy Obama, it scares me to think that
politically correct speach, actions, laws, and environmental extremism will obliterate more freedoms. Let's hope Britains David Cameron and
the Czech Republics wise leader Vaclav Klause bring
checks and balances to this onslaught...Bush made
the time ripe for Democrats to take over the White House....That being said, Obama was inspiring, hopeful, and a master speech maker....not since, Hubert Humphrey have I heard a better speach.

Anonymous | 8:14 p.m. July 25, 2008

This is LDS fair play? You print any fool attacking Obama. You won't publish my opinion absent of profanities that questions drive by politics.

I wish we would tax the LDS Church because this paper proves it a political organization.

Anonymous | 8:29 p.m. July 25, 2008

PRINCETON, NJ -- Barack Obama has expanded his lead over John McCain in the Tuesday through Thursday Gallup Poll Daily tracking rolling average, and now has a 47% to 41% advantage over his Republican challenger.

C'Mon | 10:05 p.m. July 25, 2008

Barak's speech was so full of JFK and RWR that I couldn't even figure out who was really speaking. Why can't Barak be himself? Oh, I forgot, he is so much for change that he constantly is changing to prove it. To Sokol, if you think Barak's was so good then you truly have missed the great speeches of Reagan and the great, yet wrong, speeches of Slick Willy.

Mark B | 10:30 p.m. July 25, 2008

Man! Obama draws a quarter million or so, but you Obama haters still have nothing good to say about him. I wonder what comments we'd have here if he'd gone to a brat shop instead. Doh!

Anonymous | 3:44 p.m. July 26, 2008

The reason why the Berliners love Obama, is Europe is nothing but a socialist 'Union' and Obama is a socialist himself, NOT a democrat. Maybe he should move to Germany if they love him so much. I know I don't want him as my president. You don't have my vote Obama!

Capt. Smash | 9:20 p.m. July 26, 2008

I think the biggest difference I saw was people waving American flags, not burning them as they do when Bush goes overseas.

Most of you GOP people are so Brain Washed by Fox News and Rush you cannot think on I higher level. You set there in your chairs and listen to your radios and watch your TVï¿½s and you think your well informed. This is why we went to war 4200 American troops dead for the sake of oil, and your paying four dollars a gallon of gas.

Thank God we have some Americans who can think and are not Brain Washed by Fox News, Sean and Rush.

Electoral College polling count thus far.

Barack Obama 238

John McCain 163

Toss Up 137

Anonymous | 7:49 a.m. July 27, 2008

Love Obama. Very refreshing. What I loved more was McCain's snarking. He isn't even good at that. Oh, and could someone please give McCain a geography lesson? Maybe he ought to take a trip or two, map in hand, so he can figure out the world landscape.

Interdependence is key | 4:40 a.m. July 28, 2008

The posters who are encouraged by Obama's interdependent approach to the world hit the nail on the head. We NEED a president who realizes that it isn't all about US anymore. We've sent most of our agricultural base and derive most of our oil from other countries, folks. We've exported most of our industry. When you are a consumer and not a producer, you are at the mercy of those who feed and energize you, and YOU KNOW I TELL THE TRUTH when I say that our basic needs are mainly met by foreign suppliers. Now, in light of sobering reality, who do we need more? A president who would just as soon give the world the finger and place all his faith in the U.S. military, or a president who seems to be willing to sit down at the international table and talk? Neither man is an ideal choice, IMHO, but just on international relations alone, I know who I think has their head on straight. If we want to remain a strong nation, in the meantime, we need to work a little harder and give up convenience and gluttony. Our economic woes are caused by US.

Richard | 4:51 p.m. July 28, 2008

Comparing Obama and Hitler are we?

Really? Really Utah? Are you that far out of touch with what is really going on in this world?

You say that Obama does "not present a plan" when he speaks. Well I guess you just don't listen, because I have heard his plans and I like them.

Just because you too lazy and uninformed to find out his position does not mean he does not have one.

Get a clue.

To Anon (neocon hater) | 10:30 a.m. July 29, 2008

Dude. I don't want America to be loved and liked by the world.

I would much rather be respected, and feared.

You namby, pansy, wimpy libs have forgotten what it means to be an American.

Be proud of your country!

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