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Texas still looking for 5 indicted FLDS men
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CP | 12:44 a.m. July 24, 2008
Just like Warren Jeffs did for the longest time, these 5 men are cowards and ran
away cause they know they did wrong and they only care about themselves and
nobody else. I hope they get caught and get what they deserve. Time to pay the
piper cowardly FLDS men. Come out where ever you are...cause just like Jeffs you
will be found.
to all readers of this article | 1:13 a.m. July 24, 2008
look at TRUTH WILL PREVAIL. No one is running. Deseret News look at the facts.
The officers haven't even started to search. They don't have a case
until someone testifies. They don't want to find the "unknown"
men until they can build a case against them. They haven't even looked at
the Ranch yet. This is just a media ploy to salvage their case in the public
mind. Dig a little deeper into the facts.
awesomeron | 3:22 a.m. July 24, 2008
If they did not have a case they would not have an indictment.
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Cats | 5:26 a.m. July 24, 2008
One again, the FLDS are blogging to try to convince the rest of us that they are
victims of a terrible injustice.
I would agree. They are victims. They are victims of many years of following false prophets and being brainwashed into believing that they are living a "higher law." These poor people are victims of lies and control from evil and corrupt leaders who have used them to further their own ends.
Since Warren Jeffs has publicly admitted that he is a FALSE PROPHET, I'm sure that leaves these people not knowing where to turn. After all these years of mind control, I'm sure it is pretty hard to face the truth.
I applaud the Texas authorities and Mark Shurtleff for finally attempting to prosecute these men for their crimes. There are many TRUE VICTIMS who need justice. There are many lost people who truly need help.
I would agree. They are victims. They are victims of many years of following false prophets and being brainwashed into believing that they are living a "higher law." These poor people are victims of lies and control from evil and corrupt leaders who have used them to further their own ends.
Since Warren Jeffs has publicly admitted that he is a FALSE PROPHET, I'm sure that leaves these people not knowing where to turn. After all these years of mind control, I'm sure it is pretty hard to face the truth.
I applaud the Texas authorities and Mark Shurtleff for finally attempting to prosecute these men for their crimes. There are many TRUE VICTIMS who need justice. There are many lost people who truly need help.
Joey | 5:31 a.m. July 24, 2008
Malonis is being evasive. The fact is, as the TRUTH WILL PREVAIL blog site
shows, court documents reveal some very telling things about Malonis'
character with regard to matters of child custody.
As for Teresa's reaching the age of consent, I don't see how that's irrelevant as Malonis claims. If CPS and Malonis' reason for keeping Malonis on as Teresa's attorney is to prevent her relationship with an adult, then that argument becomes moot on Saturday, since she can legally have a sexual relationship with an adult once she's 17 yrs. old. Trying to protect her from that is just silly and/or disengenuous.
As for Teresa's reaching the age of consent, I don't see how that's irrelevant as Malonis claims. If CPS and Malonis' reason for keeping Malonis on as Teresa's attorney is to prevent her relationship with an adult, then that argument becomes moot on Saturday, since she can legally have a sexual relationship with an adult once she's 17 yrs. old. Trying to protect her from that is just silly and/or disengenuous.
disguise taken | 5:34 a.m. July 24, 2008
I wouldn't recommend the hippy beard glasses ant "therapist"
routine, Radovan Karadic was discovered behind that one.
They won't be turning themselves in either. Time for a bounty hunter?
They won't be turning themselves in either. Time for a bounty hunter?
re: Truth Will Prevail | 6:51 a.m. July 24, 2008
go away. go away you hilldale hillbilly. Polygamy is against the law. Why do you
feel you need to post everytime anything is written on this subject? Your
constant campaigning only makes things worse for your band of hillbillies.
Untruth will Fail | 7:09 a.m. July 24, 2008
The public is fast losing any sympathy they've had for the plight of the
FLDS because of their attempts to smear anyone who disagrees with their
"right" to sexually abuse young girls.
Just because the FLDS have been conned by a "prophet," who is really just a convicted child-abusing felon, into believing that this is what God wants them to do is no excuse. FORCING 12- to 16-year-old girls into sexual relations is sick and disgusting.
Just because the FLDS have been conned by a "prophet," who is really just a convicted child-abusing felon, into believing that this is what God wants them to do is no excuse. FORCING 12- to 16-year-old girls into sexual relations is sick and disgusting.
CP | 7:24 a.m. July 24, 2008
This is for "to all readers of this article" posted at 1:13am. IF you
believe the stuff that has been posted on the TRUTH WILL PREVAIL then
that's your business. But I think it's a bunch of junk to brainwash
the public like it apparently has done to you. Hello get a grip on reality!!
Warren Jeffs went into hiding for many years cause he didn't want to be
caught WHY you ask-- cause he knew and knows that he was doing wrong and would
get into deep water if ever caught. Well he was caught. And look where he is
now. He even admitted he was a False Prophet and Wrong! The FLDS men now leading
this bunch still think as Jeffs did so why are you believing the junk posted on
their website? These men are running for the same reason Warren Jeffs was. You
need to dig a little deeper into the facts and WAKE UP!
Txmom | 8:08 a.m. July 24, 2008
Just so that everyone knows: Texas is still in the planning stages of trying to
find these guys. That means they haven't even started looking for them or
even told their lawyers that they are wanted. It's hard to turn yourself in
when you don't know you are suppose to turn yourself in. Are they running?
We don't know yet because we haven't starting looking for them yet!
Just out the San Angelo local paper and the sheriff says as such-- still
planning stages!!
Anonymous | 8:21 a.m. July 24, 2008
While I do not believe that polygamy, underage marriages/sex, child abuse, etc
are good ideas, can we take a moment and realize that a large majority of people
reading this article have a family heritag of polygamy? You may not feel that
your ancestors were guilty of "abuse" because they were practicing
their religious beliefs. Many of those men and church leaders were forced into
hiding as well. Many people still think the mainstream LDS members are
brainwashed and led by a false prophet. Before passing too much judgment, stop
and think.
nottyou | 8:38 a.m. July 24, 2008
I sure would like to see some women arrested for their roles in allowing child
abuse exist in their homes. They are just as responsible for letting this go
on.
Repent | 8:43 a.m. July 24, 2008
I don't know of the FLDS but I can read these comments and I can judge the
mentality of the writers.
Read some of the comments of the people around Narvoo, IL and you will witness the same hate against the LDS.
Does anyone want to have a go at anyone who is religious? That's very popular right now.
Read some of the comments of the people around Narvoo, IL and you will witness the same hate against the LDS.
Does anyone want to have a go at anyone who is religious? That's very popular right now.
Cats Meow | 9:10 a.m. July 24, 2008
Once again, the public is blogging to try to convince the rest of us that there
are victims of a terrible injustice.
I would agree. The public is victim. They are victims of many years of following Flora and Carolyn's exaggerations and being brainwashed into believing that the FLDS are evil. These poor people are victims of lies and control from the evil and corrupt Flora, Carolyn and Elissa who have used them to further their own ends.
I would agree. The public is victim. They are victims of many years of following Flora and Carolyn's exaggerations and being brainwashed into believing that the FLDS are evil. These poor people are victims of lies and control from the evil and corrupt Flora, Carolyn and Elissa who have used them to further their own ends.
Karl | 9:20 a.m. July 24, 2008
Sure, many people do have a family history of polygamy.
The laws of the land, and the realization that the practice of polygamy is not good for chidren, women, and society in general has had the American people moving away from this destructive practice.
In this day and age, polygamy has become something much different than the days of old anyhow.
It is a blight upon human rights and goodness.
The laws of the land, and the realization that the practice of polygamy is not good for chidren, women, and society in general has had the American people moving away from this destructive practice.
In this day and age, polygamy has become something much different than the days of old anyhow.
It is a blight upon human rights and goodness.
Think!!!! | 9:29 a.m. July 24, 2008
CP: Just like Warren Jeffs did for the longest time, these 5 men are cowards and
ran away cause they know they did wrong and they only care about themselves and
nobody else.
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Hmmmmmmm. So far they have not said "WHO???" should be running. Better watch out!! MAYBE IT IS YOU!! THAT SHOULD BE LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER AFTER ALL IF ONE AMERICANS' RELIGION IS TRAMPLED--EVERYONES RIGHTS ARE IN DANGER!!!
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Hmmmmmmm. So far they have not said "WHO???" should be running. Better watch out!! MAYBE IT IS YOU!! THAT SHOULD BE LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER AFTER ALL IF ONE AMERICANS' RELIGION IS TRAMPLED--EVERYONES RIGHTS ARE IN DANGER!!!
Bruce | 9:42 a.m. July 24, 2008
A grand jury would indeed indict a grilled cheese sandwich. They have to do
something to try and save face.
It will be interesting if a case actually goes to trial. The first thing will be motions to suppress evidence as being illegally obtained. That will force the Texas Rangers to come clean on the Rozitta Swinton thing and why she hasn't been arrested.
The Texas dog and pony show continues....
It will be interesting if a case actually goes to trial. The first thing will be motions to suppress evidence as being illegally obtained. That will force the Texas Rangers to come clean on the Rozitta Swinton thing and why she hasn't been arrested.
The Texas dog and pony show continues....
re:Repent | 9:49 a.m. July 24, 2008
uummm.. the hammer apparently swings both ways.
CommonSenseIsNotSoCommon | 10:10 a.m. July 24, 2008
As I have said in the past, if there really are underage marriages going on
withing the FLDS, Texas obtained the evidence illegally. Texas should have done
this legally so any might-be-criminals don't get away on a legal
technicality. Of course, the CPS thought they had a valid warrant, but common
sense said otherwise.
We see perfectly good evidence being thrown out time and time again with drug raids. The laws aren't going to change for this group, and the laws shouldn't change. It is more important to protect and preserve the freedom of millions of American children than it is to take these freedoms from our children just so we can get a few men who might have harmed a few children.
I know its aggravating, but it's these types of freedoms our men in arms have died for. So many Americans don't understand that the government raids and seizures that happen in communist countries are never done in the name of power. They are always done in the name of protecting the children or the public, or even in the name of defending freedom.
We see perfectly good evidence being thrown out time and time again with drug raids. The laws aren't going to change for this group, and the laws shouldn't change. It is more important to protect and preserve the freedom of millions of American children than it is to take these freedoms from our children just so we can get a few men who might have harmed a few children.
I know its aggravating, but it's these types of freedoms our men in arms have died for. So many Americans don't understand that the government raids and seizures that happen in communist countries are never done in the name of power. They are always done in the name of protecting the children or the public, or even in the name of defending freedom.
To Cats meow; | 10:16 a.m. July 24, 2008
I don't believe for one minute that Flora, Elissa and Carolyn and others
are evil. They are very courageous women and are tying to help their relatives
get out of this terrible mess they are in.
Cats | 10:22 a.m. July 24, 2008
To "Cats Meow:" I am under the impression that you think that
childish blog you put up is quite clever?
Nobody is fooled by the propoganda you are putting out. Apparently my blog, pointing out the fact that Warren Jeffs has PUBLICLY announced that he is a FALSE PROPHET, really hit home.
OUCH!!!
Nobody is fooled by the propoganda you are putting out. Apparently my blog, pointing out the fact that Warren Jeffs has PUBLICLY announced that he is a FALSE PROPHET, really hit home.
OUCH!!!
Saving Face | 10:30 a.m. July 24, 2008
The grand jury has no reason to recommend indictment except on the basis of the
evidence and testimony the are given.
There will be challenges to the acceptability of the evidence seized, but, in the end, it will be determined that Texas law enforcement acted in good faith in executing the search warrant.
There will be challenges to the acceptability of the evidence seized, but, in the end, it will be determined that Texas law enforcement acted in good faith in executing the search warrant.
Dogs | 10:31 a.m. July 24, 2008
What do dogs do? Breed and bark.
It's Obvious | 10:39 a.m. July 24, 2008
They are looking for Merril Jessop, Raymond Jessop, Leroy Jessop, and Wendell
Nielsen.
Justice? | 12:52 p.m. July 24, 2008
No Justice
Cops and the Judicial System are the sneaky bunch
Cops are no longer fit to live in society
They have a chance to go to IRAQ, and to chicken to do it
While others are going 14 times over
to Iraq
Cops and the Judicial System are the sneaky bunch
Cops are no longer fit to live in society
They have a chance to go to IRAQ, and to chicken to do it
While others are going 14 times over
to Iraq
WashCo | 1:26 p.m. July 24, 2008
I really dislike Harry Reid, but for once he is right. This really is an evil
empire. I have a friend whose wife and children were taken away from him and
given to a more "worthy" (spelled money in Warren's pocket) man.
He has looked for them for five years but no luck. Religion is a minor part of
what is going on there. Money and power is the overriding. Watch the hearings
for the "bleeding the beast" details. Good insight into true FLDS
religion.
TO IT'S OBVIOUS | 2:26 p.m. July 24, 2008
Looks like you got it right.
realitycheck | 2:46 p.m. July 24, 2008
wow - the FLDS is out in numbers here today. Good showing.....
But of course you were going to get caught. You can't violate the civil rights of hundreds (thousands?) of women and children, and some men, for your own goals - regardless of how religious you think it is.
and it sounds like "Justice? 12:52pm" has had some bad experiences with the law. Well, hey - try obeying the law and you won't have these problems. I'm still amused by those posters saying "how would you like CPS to break into your house..." I have no problem with that - I have nothing to hide!
You FLDS hide because you know what you do is wrong. And I don't mean polygamy. No one cares about that. Have 5 wives and 100 children. Just get off your ass and support them, studman. Don't be a state-supported wuss.
And stop restricting the civil rights of your followers. There is NOTHING god-like about that. It's just stupid. You FLDS are giving law-abiding polygamists a really bad name. They do it because it's fun, and they obey all other laws - and they SUPORT THEIR FAMILY. How about you try that?
But of course you were going to get caught. You can't violate the civil rights of hundreds (thousands?) of women and children, and some men, for your own goals - regardless of how religious you think it is.
and it sounds like "Justice? 12:52pm" has had some bad experiences with the law. Well, hey - try obeying the law and you won't have these problems. I'm still amused by those posters saying "how would you like CPS to break into your house..." I have no problem with that - I have nothing to hide!
You FLDS hide because you know what you do is wrong. And I don't mean polygamy. No one cares about that. Have 5 wives and 100 children. Just get off your ass and support them, studman. Don't be a state-supported wuss.
And stop restricting the civil rights of your followers. There is NOTHING god-like about that. It's just stupid. You FLDS are giving law-abiding polygamists a really bad name. They do it because it's fun, and they obey all other laws - and they SUPORT THEIR FAMILY. How about you try that?
CP | 3:01 p.m. July 24, 2008
To "Think". I don't need to look over my shoulder. I'm not
taking away anybody's rights. I just stated my opinion about Warren Jeffs
and those that follow him. He took away rights of others not me. So you need to
think - "Think". He already confessed that he's a FALSE PROPHET.
those were his own words - not mine.
Go Texas | 6:15 p.m. July 24, 2008
To Think!!! I don't have to look over my shoulder. I am not abusing
little girls and boys and stealing from my fellow man all in the name of
"Religion". Also, the grand jury has evidence, Remember, all the DNA
that will show the messed up family tree with the evidence of child rape,
incest and who knows what else. I hope when they find these men, and I suspect
more names will be added to this list, they return for the mothers that sat back
and allowed all this abuse to happen. I am proud to live in Texas.
re: truth will prevail | 6:23 p.m. July 24, 2008
If no one is running, WHERE IS MERRILL JESSOP? Hiding like a scared rabbit? He
should be. Anyone who condones and participates in child rape should be behind
bars. I'm sorry if that's difficult for you to comprehend.
nosugrof | 6:56 p.m. July 24, 2008
awesomerun: A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich. Why hasnt Rozita Swinton
been arrested? She broke the law.
ONE TREE | 8:09 p.m. July 24, 2008
FLDS is just victim .I am not FLDS or LDS.As i see it FLDS is only trying to be
faithfull to JOSEPH SMITH.They trust him and regard him as a true prophet.They
dont believe in new laws from the later leaders. They hate laws that change
easily,like LDS practice from time to time.They think GOD's laws they got
from the prophet as most important.It make them carry on doing it until now.So
LDS,DONT make FLDS like anemy.Try putting yourselves in their shoes.After all
you are all from the same tree and root.Indeed,you need to help and try to make
them realize that they need to change. Change for the better!
re: one tree | 8:35 p.m. July 24, 2008
I'd complain to your FLDS school teachers for your grammar skills (or lack
of). Aside from that, the FLDS don't follow the teachings of Joseph Smith,
or they'd all be out on missions sharing their version of the restored
gospel. They also wouldn't be ignoring the laws of the land nor would they
be hiding out and ripping husbands away from their wives and children. They
also wouldn't be deserting their young men on the sides of the road nor
would their "prophet" be arranging and FORCING marriages. They also
wouldn't be stealing and lying (welfare fraud).
jjcbnl | 9:01 p.m. July 24, 2008
It seems like "the wicked persue and no man flee-eth
Interloper | 9:09 p.m. July 24, 2008
The FLDS supports racial discrimination and misogyny in addition to sexual and
other abuse of children. There is no reason for any person concerned about
right and wrong to 'walk a mile in their shoes.' If we did, we would
be willing participants in the same wrongs they are. The FLDS men currently on
the lam deserve fair trials, not the sympathy of their fellow Americans.
jjcbnl | 9:10 p.m. July 24, 2008
It looks like "the wicked persue and no man flee-eth"
Cats Meow | 10:41 p.m. July 24, 2008
Sorry, I don't believe in God or the after life. There is no evidence to
support either one, so anyone that believes in God or the afterlife is just as
gullible and brainwashed as they claim Jeffs' followers are. I could care
less if The Pope, Monson, Jeffs, or your uncle claim to be a prophet. As far as
I'm concerned, they are all schizophrenic if they claim to get visions.
It appears that those people who are so vindictive towards the FLDS are just as brainwashed and mislead as they seem to think the FLDS are. Who is doing the misleading? The Jessop girls, and the media looking for a nice juicy story to sell.
People have been after this group for decades. Almost a century now, and all they can get is Jeffs marrying a 14 year old to someone 5 years older. Geez, that's BARELY illegal. Where are these cases of 69 years olds marrying 12 year olds? That's what they need to be going after. So far, all anyone has found out in Texas is this group doesn't beat their kids, they don't milk welfare, and the underage pregnant girls really aren't underage or pregnant.
It appears that those people who are so vindictive towards the FLDS are just as brainwashed and mislead as they seem to think the FLDS are. Who is doing the misleading? The Jessop girls, and the media looking for a nice juicy story to sell.
People have been after this group for decades. Almost a century now, and all they can get is Jeffs marrying a 14 year old to someone 5 years older. Geez, that's BARELY illegal. Where are these cases of 69 years olds marrying 12 year olds? That's what they need to be going after. So far, all anyone has found out in Texas is this group doesn't beat their kids, they don't milk welfare, and the underage pregnant girls really aren't underage or pregnant.
FOREVER | 1:22 a.m. July 25, 2008
I love FLDS,coz FLDS means FOREVER LDS.REMEMBER that!FLDS ppl are humble and
honest.They are not expert in all kind of showing off as their cousins ,LDS
do.But most of all their faith will grow stronger in this trying times.God bless
ppl who are poor in spirit.Dont judge anyone.Let GOD do the job.
Lilathe | 11:20 p.m. July 26, 2008
Not saying who they indicted then accusing the "secret" men of running
away or hiding is just plain silly. How can a "secret" man run away
from a "secret" indictment?
The FLDS should just have every single FLDS man show up at the police station in whatever state they are currently in, to ask if there are any indictments against them.
Then again, the indictments are "secret" and it might even be Baptist men that were indicted, so maybe every Baptist should show up at the Police station tomorrow to be sure they aren't being accused of "running away" or "hiding" from their indictments.
The FLDS should just have every single FLDS man show up at the police station in whatever state they are currently in, to ask if there are any indictments against them.
Then again, the indictments are "secret" and it might even be Baptist men that were indicted, so maybe every Baptist should show up at the Police station tomorrow to be sure they aren't being accused of "running away" or "hiding" from their indictments.
son of perdition | 8:46 a.m. July 28, 2008
I think it is so funny how the FLDS men hide. Proof they know what they are
doing is wrong
Stupidities | 1:36 p.m. Aug. 10, 2008
"Just like Warren Jeffs did for the longest time, these 5 men are cowards
and ran away cause they know they did wrong and they only care about themselves
and nobody else."
"They won't be turning themselves in either. Time for a bounty hunter?"
"These men are running for the same reason Warren Jeffs was."
"You FLDS hide because you know what you do is wrong."
"I think it is so funny how the FLDS men hide. Proof they know what they are doing is wrong"
"They won't be turning themselves in either. Time for a bounty hunter?"
"These men are running for the same reason Warren Jeffs was."
"You FLDS hide because you know what you do is wrong."
"I think it is so funny how the FLDS men hide. Proof they know what they are doing is wrong"
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