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Texas child advocate's report claims underage marriage in FLDS case

Well this is no big surprise. And it just proves whats been going on at the ranch since 2004. Not only was a 14yr old married,, but Warren Jeffs did the Marrying, and those at the Ranch were hiding a fugitive.

Warren Jeffs is where he belongs for the rest of his breathing life. The man is an animal.

Granted, removal of 400 children was massive, however if the truth had been told in the beginning, it wouldn't have been necessary. This "revelation" proves that the sexual abuse is going on and the mother condoned it. Plus there were witnesses....humm where are those witnesses? It's time that everyone start telling the truth and maybe we can get past this and let the healing begin.

Boy, you get this young girl, who's father is the head of this group of people who are so misguided. She has her mother, her father and another older man, now her husband that constantly put these ideas that they are right and the rest of the world is wrong. What really surprises me is that she said "shut your mouth", what happened to the sweet submissive woman, oh she is, just to the men that tell her what to say and to whom. They also tell her that it is her duty to marry this man and to twist the truth to protect these sexual perverts. I really wonder if anything will ever be solved, maybe the one thing is that the government quit supporting these people with our money.

Waiting for your response...

So why can't they charge every adult at the "wedding" as an accomplice to rape? If it worked in getting Jeffs convicted, why not use the same legal case again -- but even wider?

WHAT REVELATION? God would have never condone polygamy and the abuse of women at anytime in history. FLDS men have brainwashed themselves and their children into thinking GOD told them to do this. BUT we all know he never ever told them to do this stuff to women. This is no longer just a mans world... That is privative thinking. These men follow Satan's leed.

Good ole Malonis and her comment about wishing it had not come to this.
Come to what.....the girl says she was never married....the girl says she has never had sex....even if she was "spiritually united" as long as she denies having had sex there is little proof of anything. If she wrote in a diary........the fantasys of a 15 year old girl can be denied by the girl.
Malonis just had to comment though.....I'm suprised that she didn't comment about not being able to comment.
We have an alleged victim of an alleged crime who will testify that a crime never took place, Great witness to nothing.

Given the past accuracy of Deseret News, I wouldnt Hang any one quite yet, and why if you�re trying to help someone would you call them a Liar, that really builds trust don�t it. Doesn�t take a law degree to know that if you want to build trust with someone you are going to have become there friend, friend implies that you trust each other, and it�s very obvious that Malonis don�t trust Teresa, and Teresa does not trust Malonis. The Right thing to do would be to give her a new Lawyer the same way you gave her the first one.

Interesting thing about this is that it comes right before Congress considers crimes of polygamy.

I'd like to see a time line of when all of these underage marriages occurred. Didn't Warren snag a few underage girls himself while on the run? Were there any deals made? Were a few Jessop girls handed over to Warren in exchange for his daughter?

Courts don't look very kindly on people like Jeffs who are charged with a crime and then go on to commit similar crimes before being sentenced.

Two five to life sentences could free Jeffs in something like five years with good behavior. The Texas case may guarantee that he is put away for life. It may be best to delay the Arizona case until after the Texas case since there is so much evidence in the Texas case. If there is a conviction in the Arizona case, the Texas case would still need to be heard, however, that is not true for the opposite scenario.

The outcome of all of this is that Jeffs may bring down polygamy due to his brash behavior. He certainly didn't fly under the radar as he should have.

Gal50 | 11:00 p.m. July 18, 2008
"Interesting thing about this is that it comes right before Congress considers crimes of polygamy."

They are not investigating "crimes of polygamy". They are investigating abuses associated with polygamous sects.

One might have taken this at face value a year ago, but after all the false allegations, all one can say is, "Give me a break."

Haven't we heard this time and time again? I'm sure Nancy Grace is having a heyday with this one.

Is this like the alleged 40 girls who were pregnant underage? Is there really any truth behind it? Is it nothing more than an extremely exaggerated little piece of information?

I used to take these allegations hook, line and sinker. Now, the more I investigate, the more I realize big media is nothing more than a retail gossip.

For whatever reasons, some insist on defending the FLDS cult.

There has simply been too much information made public... by local law enforcement and previous members of the FLDS...to disbelieve all of it.

Just the fact that a man who declares himself a "prophet" and the rightful controller of all FLDS members now finds himself in prison speaks volumes.

I don't doubt for a second that these people have been indoctrinated, many or most from birth, to accept and live this lifestyle.

It has been inculcated into their minds, including the punishment they believe they will suffer if they disagree/disobey.

Sorry, poor choice of words and intending to be sarcastic. I agree with you that this is "Satan's lead".

A 15 year old is old enough to be prosecuted as an adult. A 15 year is old enough to be married.

Theresa was 15 when she was spiritually married. Not legally married. She denies and the state has no proof (stated in earlier reports) that she has ever had sex. So, what do we have....nothing illegal. Lets take every 15 year old girl in all the neighborhoods of SLC and examine them to see if they have ever had sex. Then compare that to the YFZ ranch girls. Which have already been examined.
Is there any doubt which group will have the larger percentage of underage sex?

I really hope that this abuse to young girls stops. It is not fair to them. It is abominable. These selfish men have talked them into this. It is the only life they know. The men are like snake charmers. Hurray for the women who wised up and got away.

//They also tell her that it is her duty to marry this man//

//These selfish men have talked them into this.//

Well, if the letters and diary entries attributed to Teresa are real, it doesn't seem like she needed all that much convincing to do anything.

Raymond Jessop needs to be arrested immediately and so does this girls mother. If this were anywhere else in America where parents assisted and condoned in a middle aged man taking away a young girl a mere day after her 15th birthday, they would be arrested and thrown in jail no questions asked. Just because these misguided people have some self-proclaimed prophet claiming to be following God's will is no reason to allow this wholesale child rape to continue. "Spiritual marriage" isn't marriage, it's just a made up thing to allow dirty old men to have sex with teenagers. And the fact that these girls are "reassigned" is just ways for these guys to share them amongst themselves. And it's blasphemous that they do it in the name of God.

CommonSense said: "Is there really any truth behind it? Is it nothing more than an extremely exaggerated little piece of information?"

Extremely exagerated little piece of information? Let's see, they have "photographs, marriage records, letters, cards and diary entries suggesting an "intimate relationship." CASA also said it had obtained a "dictation" prepared by Warren Jeffs, showing the two were married on July 27, 2006. FLDS leaders Wendell Nielson and Merril Jessop witnessed the ceremony," Hardly flimsy evidence. Left out of this article but reported in the Houston chronicle is the interesting little tidbit that besides this marriage, Warren Jeffs also married himself to an 11 year old. I wonder if that was the one in the photos circulated earlier?