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On top of it, his arrest should have no more bearing on the reputation of movies made for and about LDS society than on the church itself. Because he's male, does that mean his arrest is a black eye for all men? I noticed he's white, many of the people posting probably also beleive its a 'black eye' for all caucasions. Those in this line of reasoning likely feel he is a 'black eye' to all actors, Utahns, Anglophones, Americans, bipeds, mammels, etc. "Hey, maybe stole a computer, maybe not, but certainly a blight on all humanity" seems to be the mantra of most of the posts on this blog. Craziness.
That being said, I feel for this guy. Poor decisions put him in a light I'm sure he didn't intend. I had a very wise bishop council me when I was a very young soon to be unmarried mother - Everyone in this ward has something they have done wrong - Theirs just isn't invisible. But God sees all sins, visible to everyone else or not.
I don't know this guy's reasons - but it isn't my place to judge - how does it go? Oh yeah - "Judge not that ye be not judged." From the BIBLE - not the Book of Mormon - so please don't interpret that as another "problem" with being a member of the LDS church. :)
LDS filmmakers can do better. MUCH better. (Not to mention the actors in them, as this story makes clear!) :) Too bad that Richard Dutcher, one of the bright exceptions, is no longer involved.
At least "The Other Side of Heaven" wasn't bad, though. Maybe there's hope.
I had high expectations, but sadly the "Book of Mormon Movie" was like having an animated scripture video acted out by real people. It basically blew the chance for anyone else later on to do anything like it on a more serious level.
I have seen one non-commercial short film that Mr. Birkeland acted in which was non-comical and touching. Ironically, "The Home Teachers" included as part of its story that Birkeland's straitlaced home teaching companion was the one who had a secret life filled with anguish.
What I find amazing is that someone whose face is familiar to thousands of people in the area would pull something like this.
I'm just glad that I am not "famous" so people don't have to get huffy about how terrible the mormons are.
Let's all read the 4th article of faith. I understand that we believe in repentance. I for one can't afford to be casting stones at anybody.
Don't just declare someone isn't a member when you have no first hand knowledge of the facts. I feel really bad that he is having a rough time in his life, but making bad choices does not automatically make someone a 'non-member'.
But these comments are ridiculous. Man steals laptop and then picks up a laptop phone call with the webcam on, come on. Thats hilarious.
Who he is, what he was in, whats his religion, favorite color, what he ate, favorite band, shoe size, none of that matters one bit.
This is what sets the LDS church apart. Personal Revelation, people. This guy's poor decision making does not effect my right and ability to know and do Gods will in the slightest. The truth of the Gospel message does not change because we are often to weak to listen to or follow it. And if you refuse to listen to the Lord because someone else is stupid, that'll make two of you.
The church in the 19th century excommunicated people for a lot more things than they do now.
I will leave it to you to dig up some things that people were ecommunicated for during the presidency of Joseph Smith. However I am pretty sure that you can find at least one person whose offense was being a Melchezidek Priethood holder who had not been to church in six years.
Actually I think "failure to attend to his duties as a melchezidek priesthood holder" was at times listed as a reason for excommunication long before someone had reached the point of not being at church for six years straight.
I think your best point was about kissing another woman. However I do not think most church members have stolen anything, and definantly not $2000 laptops.
I also think you at least have to admit that people see acting in commercials as different than acting in movies and plays. Maybe it is not, but at least admit that is our gut reaction and explain why this view is misplaced, don't just treat us like simpletons for holding it.
We at least feel that acting in movies and plays is meant to convey deep truths or entertain or something like that whereas commercials just aim to get us to buy something, and so any action in a commercial is more promotional than in a movie.
Instead of mocking us for not being mad because Kirby appears to smoke in Saints and Soldiers but being mad that Kirby was in a beer commercial where he does not even appear to drink, try to understand why I feel completely ok with myself denouncing the second which I have not seen and tolerating the first which I did see.
I do not that a church member in jail or prison is not allowed to partake of the sacrament. I also know that someone may not be baptized if they are currently on probation or parole with the law.
However, is anyone sure Birkeland is a member? The article never says he is and if he is not a member than the church can not excommunicate him.
One thing people fail to realize is that one thing that is considered in church disciplinary councils is how repentant and contrite a person is about what they have done.
If Birkeland is a member, and he were brought to a church disciplinary council and when asked said he would steal the next unattended laptop he saw, than his likelihood of being excommunicated would be a lot higher than if he said he was not going to steal in the future.
However, he has not even been convicted of the crime, just charged, so there are a whole range of unknowns.
It never said what religion Mr. Birkeland was in the article.
All it said was that he had been in movies with an LDS theme.
I also think some people are ignoring chronilogical order here. If it turned out a man who had been convicted theft in the past had been a lead character in some LDS themed movies than that would seem to be a bigger blight on them than the fact that someone who did play in such movies was LATTER arrested.
Another thought, does it detract from "The Other Side of Heaven" that the actress who played the female lead has since been involved in basically pornographic roles? It may to some people, but I think it would have been much worse if they had highered an actress who had already been in multiple movies where she had apeared topless.
I can not say if you are right about Michael Birkeland.
I also can not say 100% that Will Swenson is currently LDS, however I can say that he served a mission in Ecuador and so was at one point LDS.
I think it also illustrates another fact about the whole Hardy case. He does seem to have been seeking publicity. He changed an event that even for people who are widely known in the church can often go unpublicized into a media publicity fest.
I watch rated R movies, I swear on the freeway, I wear a blue shirt on Sundays, I love the smell of coffee and I wish I could have a cup. But you know what? I have a temple recomend, I can look myself in the eye and know I am human. I am just sick of the facade that many put on to maintain some false milk-toast image. Let's just be good people, so when someone may see you they might consider Mormonism as an option.
You watch, though. Richard Dutcher will get all the R-rated movies out of his system he wants to make, funding permitting, and then like Oliver Cowdery, in the winter of his life, he'll come back. At least that's what I got from his 2007 statement.
To John Lambert, If I remember right, I have not spoken with my Priesthood leaders. I've done nothing wrong. I am not like so many friends and family members of mine who change their beliefs to fit into their lives and lifestyles. Even now, Joseph Smith is someone who I greatly admire. I do have questions about him, but none that make me question his honesty or character. ..
I do have questions and serious doubts of the way things are being handled today in the church. I do not know what I'll do, only that whatever I do, I want to be true to myself.
To Lynn, I don't believe that I'm looking for an excuse to leave the church, to be truthful, I really am looking for a reason to stay. To your anti-mormon remark, I believe that anti-mormons, especially those who make their living off of being anit's are the vermin of the earth. I have no respect for these people, and no desire to be one.
I am converted to the Gospel, I'm just not converted to the Church. That is why staying of leaving is such a hard choice.
Wait...you can do that?!?!
Strange notion to me. They can't repent and partake of the sacrament until after they get out. Wouldn't it be helpful to them on the inside? Didn't John the Baptist baptize sinners. Wouldn't someone on parole be a sinner equal to and in need of baptism as much as a law abiding citizen in good standing with the law?
I am a member but I am tired of members crying for not being treated fairly. We set ourselves aprt from the world so do not be shocked when the world also sets us apart.
They are inantimate objects, therefore no soul.
How many of these themed films were baptized?
Do themed film hold the priesthood too?
Can they get a Temple Recommend?
Nope, I do not think Themed Films can be LDS.
This story is very misleading.
Now, maybe with a rap sheet he has enough street cred to be cast in a real movie.
Chad Hardy's SP didn't give the reason for the X.
Chad Hardy was HAPPY with the outcome.
Why again do you care???
Get over it. It is just a criminal offence that will probably stay on your record for the rest of your life.
It will be on every job application you fill out and every rent application you fill out. Don't worry. Your life is over. Your toast dude.
Some posts are obviously from anti-Mormon sources as well--and you know as well as I do that an enterprising anti-Mormon or two could certainly pose as a church member on this FULLY ANONYMOUS comment board.
That's helpful to keep in mind!
1. he thought he was at the sundance film festival and this was part of his gift bag.
2. He thought he was being filmed for a new non mormon movie..
3. He knew these were local movies and nobody would recognize him.
4. he was just borrowing it.
5. so what if your missing your apple.
6. if more people bought his movies, this would have never happened.
7. he wanted to compete with calender man with a church court letter.
8. He doesn't want to be mormon anymore. NO i mean he doesn't want to be honest any more.
9. Can't we just sweep this under the carpet?
10. Can't he just drop the charges. I've learned my lesson.
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