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Utah Jazz GM says Heat won't tamper
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Workinglate | 12:03 a.m. July 16, 2008
Wait a minute, isn't that what the Cavs thought about Boozer staying in
Cleveland?
Poor, Poor CJ | 5:05 a.m. July 16, 2008
CJ Miles won't play in the summer league because he ONLY has a 1.2 million
dollar offer laying on the table? What has he actually done to deserve more?
Nothing!
This is a poor, sad situation. That is more money than most people make in 10 years who are very well educated and good at their jobs. Quit your whining, and go to work! You will get more if you give more...
CJ is shooting himself in the foot, wasting a great talent, and possible ruining his career. When everything is said and done, he has nobody to blame but himself.
This is a poor, sad situation. That is more money than most people make in 10 years who are very well educated and good at their jobs. Quit your whining, and go to work! You will get more if you give more...
CJ is shooting himself in the foot, wasting a great talent, and possible ruining his career. When everything is said and done, he has nobody to blame but himself.
Token | 7:22 a.m. July 16, 2008
CJ's upside alone is worth more than 1.2 million. He is an asset as far as
team chemistry is concerned. He contributes more to the team than Hart, far
more, perhaps even more than others. His potential for development is greater
than several.
Too bad he signed out of high school, he could be heading into his fourth year of college and showcasing his potential.
Too bad he has been in the coach's dog house this last season. Space on the roster is crowded at his position. What chance has he got to develop in a youthful, talent-heavy situation, with a coach who is cautious in using developing talent / potential. Younger, inexperienced guys don't get a ton of game time.
CJ still believes in himself (so do the Jazz to a degree). CJ will be gone when the season begins. He needs to be somewhere he has an opportunity for more time on the floor. Someone will offer this gifted player at least 1.3 mil.
CJ will be a major contributor somewhere within 3 years.
Too bad he signed out of high school, he could be heading into his fourth year of college and showcasing his potential.
Too bad he has been in the coach's dog house this last season. Space on the roster is crowded at his position. What chance has he got to develop in a youthful, talent-heavy situation, with a coach who is cautious in using developing talent / potential. Younger, inexperienced guys don't get a ton of game time.
CJ still believes in himself (so do the Jazz to a degree). CJ will be gone when the season begins. He needs to be somewhere he has an opportunity for more time on the floor. Someone will offer this gifted player at least 1.3 mil.
CJ will be a major contributor somewhere within 3 years.
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TicketHolder | 7:55 a.m. July 16, 2008
CJ Miles will be out of the league in 2 years!
Boozer | 7:54 a.m. July 16, 2008
is going to leave for Miami after this season. Utah won't give him the
amount he will be looking for, unless he suddenly develops a solid defensive
game. It's too bad, but I think Utah will be Booz-less after this season,
which D-will won't be too happy about.
TicketHolder | 8:00 a.m. July 16, 2008
The Miami Heat don't need to tamper. They already know he is coming to
Miami. Just ask his wife CeCe. Trade him now so he doesn't end up pulling
a Boozer and go to Miami!!!!
Matt in Dallas | 8:10 a.m. July 16, 2008
Wow! It's more than official. The Jazz are prepared to offer a max
contract to a player that doesn't deserve it. AND... they are going to
lose because he isn't going to accept. The Jazz are going to come up empty
handed on this. This is all the proof that anyone will need that the Jazz brass
don't have a stinking clue.
St. George Aggie | 8:35 a.m. July 16, 2008
Wow, Token! Listening to you I would think CJ is an All-Star. The facts are
the facts and apparently no one else in the league thinks CJ is worth more than
$1.3 mill. Let's talk about "potential". I can think of 2 no.1
picks that have had "potential" written all over them and haven't
lived up to the upside. Olowakandi and Kwame. So when people talk about
someones upside, that player still has to work at it.
CJ is going into his 4th year. Can we still be talking about his "upside". By now you either have proven yourself or you haven't. CJ has proven he is inconsistent. He needs all the help he can get!
Boozer, I hope he stays around. I don't see Miami picking him up though. They just drafted a power forward that can't play D, why do they want to pay max money for one?
CJ is going into his 4th year. Can we still be talking about his "upside". By now you either have proven yourself or you haven't. CJ has proven he is inconsistent. He needs all the help he can get!
Boozer, I hope he stays around. I don't see Miami picking him up though. They just drafted a power forward that can't play D, why do they want to pay max money for one?
Anonymous | 8:40 a.m. July 16, 2008
I hope Boozer decides to stay. But if he doesn't, the Jazz will use the
money to get someone else.
Hollywood | 9:03 a.m. July 16, 2008
Although I'm hoping the Jazz do a sign and trade, maybe the best thing that
could happen is to lose Boozer next season and get no players in return. That
solves the cap/luxury tax problem facing the Jazz and frees up money to resign
Millsap, Okur, Korver and Brewer.
The Jazz really haven't suffered when either Boozer or AK missed games the last couple of years. Jazz will find that Millsap, Okur and AK give enough production as starters. No problem replacing Boozer's rebounding. Yes, we'd miss his offense, but Deron can easily put up 25/per and AK would get more plays called for him. Millsap will score 15 just off put-backs (like Boozer's role in Cleveland).
If Kosta or Fes aren't ready to contribute, then the Jazz can find a Harpring-type player at the MLE to back up at the 4/5 (to replace Collins).
Jazz will be fine, maybe even better w/o Boozer. He was a bust offensively in the playoffs and has never shown any willingness to play tough defense.
I think O'Connor's words about tampering were meant as a pre-emptive warning to Miami. It's an indirect way off him saying "hands-off" until next summer.
The Jazz really haven't suffered when either Boozer or AK missed games the last couple of years. Jazz will find that Millsap, Okur and AK give enough production as starters. No problem replacing Boozer's rebounding. Yes, we'd miss his offense, but Deron can easily put up 25/per and AK would get more plays called for him. Millsap will score 15 just off put-backs (like Boozer's role in Cleveland).
If Kosta or Fes aren't ready to contribute, then the Jazz can find a Harpring-type player at the MLE to back up at the 4/5 (to replace Collins).
Jazz will be fine, maybe even better w/o Boozer. He was a bust offensively in the playoffs and has never shown any willingness to play tough defense.
I think O'Connor's words about tampering were meant as a pre-emptive warning to Miami. It's an indirect way off him saying "hands-off" until next summer.
Get Real | 9:10 a.m. July 16, 2008
To Token: Ask Milsap, D Will, and Brewer about playing time as a rookie or 2nd
year man. Somehow they got minutes. What did they do? EVERYTHING THEY COULD.
They came to camp in shape, they worked hard in the off season, they practiced
harder during the season. CJ has shown he is willing to do little and expect
much; something not totally surprising from a 20-something-year-old, but this is
for millions of $. And all this doesn't even take into account his spotty
play while actually on the court.
Name one player who's statistical number improved after leaving the Jazz. And when you get done naming Mo Williams I will name 50 players that did just the opposite. Maybe, just maybe, Sloan and staff know how to do their job a bit better than we give them credit.
CJ wants to avoid injury; the Jazz want to avoid paying a huge amount of money for selfish attitude off the court and little productivity on the court.
Name one player who's statistical number improved after leaving the Jazz. And when you get done naming Mo Williams I will name 50 players that did just the opposite. Maybe, just maybe, Sloan and staff know how to do their job a bit better than we give them credit.
CJ wants to avoid injury; the Jazz want to avoid paying a huge amount of money for selfish attitude off the court and little productivity on the court.
BOOZ IS SHADY | 9:14 a.m. July 16, 2008
I wish Miami would tamper and get this shady looser out of Utah. Boozer is a
good player, but only when he is not betting with his bookie against the Jazz.
Yeah, that's right Boozer- Don't think we haven't noticed you
watching the scoreboard at the end of games when the score is close to the
spread. All those times when you get the rebound at the top of the key, and then
let out your signature "AHHHHH" yell as a 160 pound point guard rips
it out of your hands. Trade Boozer now!!!
D-Will Contract will tell | 9:17 a.m. July 16, 2008
Don't think for a minute that Boozer and D-Will aren't talking. If
D-Will signs a short contract (3 yrs.) then Boozer is gone. If D-Will signs
long-term, then I think Boozer will stay.
That way, William's gets his big payday. He will still have the option to leave while he is still relatively young if the Jazz don't find a suitable replacement for Boozer, but he is not locked in long-term.
If he signs a long-term contract, then I think he and Boozer have talked and decided to keep the nucleus of the team together and make as many runs at a title as they can. D-Will's contract will be a tell on Boozers hand.
That way, William's gets his big payday. He will still have the option to leave while he is still relatively young if the Jazz don't find a suitable replacement for Boozer, but he is not locked in long-term.
If he signs a long-term contract, then I think he and Boozer have talked and decided to keep the nucleus of the team together and make as many runs at a title as they can. D-Will's contract will be a tell on Boozers hand.
sparks24 | 10:07 a.m. July 16, 2008
Hey St George Aggie when has CJ had a chance to play?
C | 10:11 a.m. July 16, 2008
Let Boozer go .....It's the Power Forward position in Utah offense that
makes the Power Forward....Look At AK when he was playing the PF in the 03-04
season, he had the best season! Not to say Boozer isn't talented, but it
has a lot to do with the offense he is playing in as well.
Booz produces lies | 10:24 a.m. July 16, 2008
Boozer has proved to the league he isn't the most trust worthy player. It
would be nice to keep him, but if the jazz can get something close to his talent
level for him, I think they should do it. As long as DWILL is here, he can turn
a talented power forward into an all star.
With CJ, every team in the NBA has a CJ MIles, a youngster with talent, but hasn't panned out yet. I wouldn't worry about CJ, players like him are a dime a dozen.
With CJ, every team in the NBA has a CJ MIles, a youngster with talent, but hasn't panned out yet. I wouldn't worry about CJ, players like him are a dime a dozen.
Sokol | 10:22 a.m. July 16, 2008
The chatter this summer seems to be all about Benedict Boozer aka Charmin.
jazz man | 11:12 a.m. July 16, 2008
Get rid of Booz he's a choke artist and a good one at that... Money could
be better used on players who actually want to win, not lose the the lakers!
Gone | 11:16 a.m. July 16, 2008
Let's see:
Stay in Utah or Live in Miami?
Trade him NOW!
His effort(?) in the playoffs shows he is done with the Jazz.
LHM/KO:
Cut your losses. Get some (any) value for him NOW.
Stay in Utah or Live in Miami?
Trade him NOW!
His effort(?) in the playoffs shows he is done with the Jazz.
LHM/KO:
Cut your losses. Get some (any) value for him NOW.
The problem with CJ | 11:44 a.m. July 16, 2008
is he has had time to develop, but he's not doing what's in his best
interest. The problem is he has a terrible agent and is still immature. He has
the talent to make an impact, but if he never plays (summer league) how can he
earn the respect and trust of the coaches to earn more minutes? I believe Miles
may be a lost cause at this point. Utah certainly doesn't have to have him
on their team, and I think it may be the beginning of the end for Mr. Miles.
GoodGuyGary | 11:49 a.m. July 16, 2008
Trade Boozer and keep AK. As C said, AK did well as PF. With Millsap and the,
PF position is OK. We then can move Brewer to play SF, and Harpring as back up.
With teh two D-league guy and the first round 7 foot new pick, we are find. We
can also us Boozer to get a vetern PF...we will lose him next year anyway, trade
him while he still worth something.
Cavs Fan | 1:04 p.m. July 16, 2008
Boozer blows...he is so good but such a trader..consider him gone..we would no
in Cleveland..get rid of him.
Don't Bet on A Trade | 1:25 p.m. July 16, 2008
Involving involving Boozer. O'Connor will stay the course and expect to
resign him next summer. The Jazz need two dominant players that can score 25+
each regularly and good backup support that can make the difference.
Boston and San Antonio have proved that to be a fact.
The Jazz had a chance with Stockton, Malone and Hornacek but their roll players did not step up when needed.
Until the Jazz put that together they will be no more than so-so in the league.
Boston and San Antonio have proved that to be a fact.
The Jazz had a chance with Stockton, Malone and Hornacek but their roll players did not step up when needed.
Until the Jazz put that together they will be no more than so-so in the league.
Moto X | 1:34 p.m. July 16, 2008
Don't be so sure D-Will wants Boozer here. D-Will saw Booz's
performance last year in the playoffs--he is not blind. He saw the matador
defense. D-Will could make a star out of alot of players if Booz decides to
leave. I don't think D-will only stays if Booz chooses to.
For all you people who say "trade boozer". Duh!!! Who would trade for Boozer? He is unrestricted after next season--they can sign him for nothing. Most believe he will go to Miami IF anywhere so Miami can get him for no players instead of trading something now. No other team will risk trading for him because they face the same prospect we do after next season--he walks for nothing to Miami.
We can offer the most years and money though and we know what Booz likes.
KOC knows the deal on Miami--they probably have already tampered and he knows it. This stuff does not develop from thin air. Money talks.
CJ is destroying his own limited credibility. IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN CJ HAD HIS CHANCE--HE STARTED 15 GAMES A COUPLE OF SEASONS AGO!!!Sloan gave him a chance that most players that young do not get.
For all you people who say "trade boozer". Duh!!! Who would trade for Boozer? He is unrestricted after next season--they can sign him for nothing. Most believe he will go to Miami IF anywhere so Miami can get him for no players instead of trading something now. No other team will risk trading for him because they face the same prospect we do after next season--he walks for nothing to Miami.
We can offer the most years and money though and we know what Booz likes.
KOC knows the deal on Miami--they probably have already tampered and he knows it. This stuff does not develop from thin air. Money talks.
CJ is destroying his own limited credibility. IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN CJ HAD HIS CHANCE--HE STARTED 15 GAMES A COUPLE OF SEASONS AGO!!!Sloan gave him a chance that most players that young do not get.
anoymous | 1:39 p.m. July 16, 2008
I feel badly for CJ Miles and I can understand his position.
If Boozer does sign with Miami I'll think less of him but then I'm thinking maybe the Jazz isn't a good fit for him. His talent isn't all that great. I agree with Good Guy Gary...keep AK, he's proven he can be PF. He'll have to work at it, put some muscle into the position. Gain a little more weight but not too much that he can't jump with the rest of the youngsters on those big blocks.
If Boozer does pull a Cavaliers stunt I'd like to personally "smack" his face.
I hope our little e-mail messages get read by someone who gives a damn. :-)
If Boozer does sign with Miami I'll think less of him but then I'm thinking maybe the Jazz isn't a good fit for him. His talent isn't all that great. I agree with Good Guy Gary...keep AK, he's proven he can be PF. He'll have to work at it, put some muscle into the position. Gain a little more weight but not too much that he can't jump with the rest of the youngsters on those big blocks.
If Boozer does pull a Cavaliers stunt I'd like to personally "smack" his face.
I hope our little e-mail messages get read by someone who gives a damn. :-)
Go Jazz | 2:13 p.m. July 16, 2008
You can't replace an an All-NBA third team player, who is also a two-time
Olympian with anybody on the free-agent market.
The Jazz have been better with Boozer the last two years than they have been since the went to the finals in '98.
A real good thing to do is turn on a star player and tell him the fans don't like him.
Ah, the zaniness of crazy NBA fans. It's a joy to behold.
The Jazz have been better with Boozer the last two years than they have been since the went to the finals in '98.
A real good thing to do is turn on a star player and tell him the fans don't like him.
Ah, the zaniness of crazy NBA fans. It's a joy to behold.
AzJazzFan | 2:17 p.m. July 16, 2008
Hope Boozer stays. His subpar performance in the playoffs has been blown out of
proportion. His shooting was off, yes. His rebounds slightly up. He is a
presence inside, whether he is off or on his game. A year ago his numbers
(especially his shooting) were above average in the playoffs--many fans
don't know that or have forgotten. No, the Jazz cannot easily get another
all-star if he goes. If he stays the Jazz will progress, if he goes they will
degress.
Only trade that make sense | 3:21 p.m. July 16, 2008
The only trade for Boozer that makes sense is Okafor for Boozer. We could throw
Collins and Hart in as well if the Bobcats throw in Morrison.
Moto X makes a good point thought - Any team that trades for Boozer right now, faces the same thing at the end of next year - Boozer not re-signing with them.
Most likely though, the Jazz will end up signing D-Will to a 3-year deal with player option and keep everything else the same.
They seem to be relying on Fesenko or Koufos to develop quickly...
KOC's comments lead me to believe that they are looking at options, and I trust that they must have not gotten anything good across their table...or he would have taken it.
Remember, KOC made moves to bring in D-Will and Korver. (We'll leave Hart out of this discussion. Loser.)
Moto X makes a good point thought - Any team that trades for Boozer right now, faces the same thing at the end of next year - Boozer not re-signing with them.
Most likely though, the Jazz will end up signing D-Will to a 3-year deal with player option and keep everything else the same.
They seem to be relying on Fesenko or Koufos to develop quickly...
KOC's comments lead me to believe that they are looking at options, and I trust that they must have not gotten anything good across their table...or he would have taken it.
Remember, KOC made moves to bring in D-Will and Korver. (We'll leave Hart out of this discussion. Loser.)
STEVE-O | 5:10 p.m. July 16, 2008
@ GET REAL
I can name a few STARTERS on other teams that the jazz let go.
Deshawn Stevenson
Raja Bell
Carlos Arroyo (yes this one is a stretch)
Sasha Pavlovich
These players all have a something in common. They struggled to get along with Sloan. But I'm fine with them leaving because they were whiners and emberassing. Stevenson waving his hand across his face in last years playoffs was LAUGHABLE! Arroyo can't get along with ANYBODY and Pavlovich is pretty streaky!
I can name a few STARTERS on other teams that the jazz let go.
Deshawn Stevenson
Raja Bell
Carlos Arroyo (yes this one is a stretch)
Sasha Pavlovich
These players all have a something in common. They struggled to get along with Sloan. But I'm fine with them leaving because they were whiners and emberassing. Stevenson waving his hand across his face in last years playoffs was LAUGHABLE! Arroyo can't get along with ANYBODY and Pavlovich is pretty streaky!
STEVE-O | 5:16 p.m. July 16, 2008
KOC didn't really make a move for DWill. We drafted him but KOC can't
really take credit for that.
I think everybody is jumping the gun on all of this. We've got one more year with this current team to see what happens! Boozer's decision may be based off how this next season goes.
If he leaves after next year the Jazz will digress for one year. But then we'll have TONS of money to shop around in the big free agency market in 2010 PLUS we've got that unprotected NY first round pick in our back pocket! If the Jazz keep DWILL for a long time they will be good for a LONG time! Things look good to me no matter what Boozer chooses to do!
I think everybody is jumping the gun on all of this. We've got one more year with this current team to see what happens! Boozer's decision may be based off how this next season goes.
If he leaves after next year the Jazz will digress for one year. But then we'll have TONS of money to shop around in the big free agency market in 2010 PLUS we've got that unprotected NY first round pick in our back pocket! If the Jazz keep DWILL for a long time they will be good for a LONG time! Things look good to me no matter what Boozer chooses to do!
let him go | 5:52 p.m. July 16, 2008
i think d will would be glad to get rid of boozer and get somebody who can
perform when the pressure is on, so will the jazz, so will the fans
Please Tamper Miami | 6:06 p.m. July 16, 2008
It would be great if the defenseless Boozer went his way to Miami. The Jazz
would have cap room to get a real defender.
losers | 7:29 p.m. July 16, 2008
trade AK and BOOZ. AK is a baby who ruins the offense by always crying for the
ball and acting like he does anything worth his money. Booz has proved time and
time again he is anything but clutch. Heck, trade them both over to Miami and
aquire Shawn Marion. At least Marion hustles Booz and AK are both babies
thinking they are worth more than what they really are. lets keep who real
matters in D-WILL and get him some players that actually will bring some real
competitivness and get that RING. losers like AK and Booz will never take us to
that promised land.
Idaho Jazz Man | 7:32 p.m. July 16, 2008
A lot of good points being made except about CJ! Who cares about CJ MILES! He is
obviously dumb and/or selfish and has not really helped the Jazz much any way.
It's not like they have 20 players that are productive in the same
positions that he plays! I hope we can get rid of Booz and get somebody for him
instead of losing him to free agency!
cap room | 7:51 p.m. July 16, 2008
I could be wrong but I don't think we will get that much cap space by
letting Boozer go. William's extension will raise the Jazz salary by about
10 mil that year which would eat into the 14-15 mil that Boozer would get paid.
You can't buy much for 5 mil in the NBA. Whatever the case I really hope
the Jazz don't offer Boozer a max contract because he doesn't play
defense and the Jazz would then have no cap room to find someone who does.
Boozier | 8:15 p.m. July 16, 2008
respect for miami and riley?!? is o'connor high on drugs..this is miami,
the same team that talked to and induce riley while under contract with the
knicks..they were even penalized for it! this is riley, the same riley who
talked with the heat while under contract with the knicks, hello? and finally
this is boozer, the same boozer who made a commitment to the cavs and signed
with the jazz..so that's it, bye bye boozer, this is a done deal..
History repeats | 8:37 p.m. July 16, 2008
The Jazz management believe that Miami wouldn't tamper with Booz because
they are honorable. This is the same Jazz management who gave the Los Angeles
Lakers a starter (Fisher) for nothing. Watch out.
come on Jazz...... | 11:52 p.m. July 16, 2008
please get rid of boozer, I haven't liked the guy since he was first born.
Such a bore and dishonest attitude about him. Boozer's a dime a dozen if
you ask me.
bye, bye, boozer | 12:24 a.m. July 17, 2008
Carlos boozer might opt out of his current contract? No Duh sherlock. No
surprise there. Its time for the jazz and boozer to part ways. Boozer is such a
prima dona. His morals and ethics are a serious concern to me and should be to
the jazz organization and all jazz fans for that matter. I trust the guy about
as much as I trust Larry Millers car dealerships. Enough of the drama, it's
time to go.
NBA FAN | 5:46 p.m. July 17, 2008
Boozer should't worry about were he goes. He should worry about getting
some proactiv.
get marion | 2:27 p.m. July 18, 2008
trade marion for boozer and hart and also the jazz get draft considerations and
put ak at PF and Marion at SF and we have an awesome defensive team in the front
court and maybe we can sign marion next year when his contract is done and offer
him less but hes with a championship-caliber team and with a future hall of fame
PG this would be the best for the jazz.
Anonymous | 1:38 p.m. July 19, 2008
trade marion to golden state for monta ellis and beidrins, or ellis and
harrington.
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