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Utah's concealed-weapons permit law may change

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UT | 9:58 p.m. July 3, 2008
Just wondering...

how many of you folks so opposed to guns in Utah and worried about out-of-state permit-holders moved here from another state?

It just seems like the people who gripe the loudest about the way things are done here are people who liked the state enough to move here, but now want to change it into the same thing they left.
Greg | 9:21 p.m. July 16, 2008
Why doesn't Utah just raise the cost of the Non Resident permit renewal like Florida did and make more money on them. The renewal right now is 10 dollars. Florida renewal is 112 dollars and the states an individual can carry in with a Florida Non Resident permit is almost the same as Utah. Utah could use this whole program as a "cash cow" if smart.!!!!!

From an instructor | 12:26 p.m. July 22, 2008
As an instructor certified by the NRA, Washington, Oregon and Utah, I teach many people about many different aspects of firearms. These aspects go from hunter safety, to self-defense in the home, to competitive target shooting. I have a permit in my home state of Washington, and one from Oregon as well.

I teach the Utah permit class to enable people who are licensed here (WA) to go to Utah (and other states) without having to stop in each one to take classes and wait 6-8 weeks for each to get a permit.

The permit system in most states, including Utah, I believe, is a money maker, not a drain on taxpayers.

And I would tell you that one reason Utah's permit is allowed by all those other states is because of its training requirement.

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Permit Holder | 9:59 p.m. July 29, 2008
I agree with the Instructor. I have my legal permit issued in my own state but the Utah permit is recognized in many more states due to the quality of the training program and background checks associated with the process. The Utah specific training cost me $75, the fingerprinting by my local PD cost an additional $10, the passport quality photo was another $7 and the actual permit was an additional $65.25. Nearly $160 for the entire package plus my time, which I estimate was about 2 days to get everything done.
TBILL | 8:23 p.m. Aug. 20, 2008
I am one of your out-of-staters who, after traveling to a training facility in Nevada and passing the required courseware and live-fire training applied for an out-of-state permit from Utah, Nevada, and Florida. I already hold a license in my home state of Georgia. I gladly paid the stated fees asked for by each state and will continue to pay whatever renewal fees necessary to keep the license from each state. My goal is not to freeload, but to maintain my right (not state granted priviledge, but God-given right) to self defense in as many locations in this country as possible. I greatly admire the state of Utah for it's gun laws, which are as about as close to the Founding-Fathers intentions as can be found these days. I appreciate the stance of the citizens of Utah in keeping these laws and your willingness to share your Freedom with those of us who haven't been as sucessful in maintaining our Liberty as you have. We, Georgians hold your laws up as examples to our legislators of our goals in reaching the level of self defense granted to us by God. I thank each and every Utah resident for your help.
punchkick | 1:58 p.m. Aug. 27, 2008
I live in california and we travel a lot and getting a utah ccw permit give us a feeling of safety for those who care, and if there was no utah ccw then we would just have to watch our backs all the time, so to speak.... we like to thank utah for doing a great service.... i would just charge more for the permits.....
Matt in Texas | 1:09 p.m. Sept. 26, 2008
I have my Utah permit in conjuction with my Texas CHL. A number of people I associate with have more than one permit. Utah allows us to to pick up additional states for concealed carry. It also serves as a backup permit in case my wallet becomes lost or stolen. I would venture to say that most out of state permits issued were to folks already having a permit in their home state. It is fairly extensive to get a Texas permit. FBI background checks 11 hours of training etc,. Utah will issue with my check and a copy of my already existing Texas CHL. This costs Utah almost nothing but the cost to print the plastic. The good gun loving people of your state have pursued reciprocity with all those willing to listen. This is what gives it value and not "lax restrictions". If the good people of Utah don't want our cash then we just use Florida or the likes for a backup.
Colin | 12:18 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Many Canadian firearm owners were getting this permit, so they could carry while in the US. There was an Instructor running an excellent course and who submit all the required paperwork to make it legal. Sadly I missed his class and am now unable to get the permit as the Utah office refuses all new applications, despite not having a legal reason to do so. As an out of state resident I could fully understand local taxpayers not wanting to subsidize my permit application and would accept the requirement of a higher fee. Also the permit validity could be tied to the firearm licence issued by the home state to the person and if their home state pulled their permit or barred them from having a gun it would invalidate the Utah permit. In the case of Canadians, all firearms owner need a licence, are vetted by the RCMP and required to take a course before getting a licence. Why do I want a CCW permit? As a tourist travelling through the US I know that the bad guys will zero in on me and my family as they know we won�t be armed.
J | 11:37 p.m. April 23, 2009
I currently hold a non resident CCW permit issued by the state of utah. Its by far the best pemit to have in my opinion. best for your money and good in the most states.

I have served 4 combat tour's in Iraq, been trained with weapon's by the military which met all criteria for UTAH's weapons training, still I have opted to take the training from a instructor in utah so all you complaining about out of state persons not having all the training just simply aint true

Proud to be NON- resident UTAH CCW permit holder



Non-residents are subject to EXACTLY the same process as are Utah residents including daily background checks against the Utah crime registry. ANY crime committed outside Utah (whether by a Utah resident or non-resident) may take longer to show up than if the crime were committed in Utah, but that is NOT dependent on whether the suspect is a Utah resident or not.

Issuing non-residents generates money for your state quit complainig.
Jay | 7:34 a.m. June 21, 2009
For all the people out there complaining about out- of state permits your time would be better spent lobbying for more PRO-Gun Rights. Our own president for goodness sakes that is suppose to support this country that was founded by men with guns suddenly is making it harder to buy ammo for the gun you already got let alone how hard it is gonna get to buy more. You wanna complain cause your permit took an extra week to come in the mail. Or because you can't tell if they are being good outside of your state. cause more people applied for Utah's permit.Has generated alot of revenue for the state. This time TODAY here and NOW all gun owners need to be comming together to make sure we will still have them for the future and our children. Stop complaining I have many friends that live in other states and i would definitly want them to get our permit rather than their own states.

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