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Utah's concealed-weapons permit law may change

Time for a Governor who supports the Constitution.

This change does not go far enough. Non residents of Utah should not get gun permits in Utah, period. Gun permits should be a function of the state they reside in. I know its hard to give up the extra funds they get but the state has to suck up and be responsible for how they issue permits. Visiting Utah to get a permit still has the problem of who is getting these permits. The state does carry some responsibilty for issuing permits to would be criminals and illegals. It's one thing to honor other states permits but to be an international dealer of illegal gun permits leaves a bad taste. We need to forget the fees for a moment and used the brain god gave some people, Utah politicians are brain dead anyway and need some guidance that does not have a dollar sign in front of it. Personally though, I don't think gun permits are constituionally legal and infringe on my rights to carry a gun loaded or unloaded. Society is not ready for a Utopia government or ready to give up on the constitution yet.

Another stupid idea. It's nothing more than a tax imposed upon out-of-state people.

Why not apply this same logic to driver's license?

Utah is running a permit mill that protects nobody. I'll bet that most nonresident applicants never visit Utah at all. They only want the Utah concealed weapon permit because it's cheap, it's easy to get, and it's honored by more than 20 other states.

"Why not apply this same logic to driver's license?"

Utah does do the same thing with driver's licenses.

Huntsman is a moron. If this passes here, how long before other states "get even" and make us do the same thing? He wants to relax the liquor laws to encourage more tourism here, this will do just the opposite. The place you are most vulnerable is in other states. that is where you need your concealed weapon the most. I propose we all just start carrying our guns unconcealed if this passes. That's what they do in Alaska. Cops do it.

I hope someone sues Huntsman if this passes and win under the "new" 2nd amendment rights. Out of staters have the right to defend themselves under the constitution. No matter where in this greatest nation they may be in.

Why not do what Washington, Oregon, Arizona and many more do?
Enter into a reciprocity pact with other states who have the minimum standards that Utah should realistically adhere to.
Come on, foks, Utah is NOT a 'cutting edge' here.
Look at the above mentioned states and you will realize they have no mkore problems with permit holders doing stupid stuff than Utah RESIDENT permit holders.
Just accept out-of-state permit holders whose home, issuing state meet realistic, minimum standards. Then require an application with a certification letter from home state (some must show license in nperson) and take their money.
What makes some of you think requirements and conditions should be unique to Utah only?
just be realistic.
CCW permit holders cause no problems and have been proven to be exceptional in resposibilty and protocol.
Enter the real world, please.

to ?? at 7:36.... Utah allows non-residents to travel through Utah while driving an automobile IF the driver has a valid home state drivers license.
This what previous poster meant.
If you move to Utah, you are no longer a non-resident.
quite simple.

I love how everything with Huntsman is based on tourism. He doesn't seem to give a flip what the residents want unless it turns a tourism buck.

That being said, I agree the permitting process needs to be changed here. I more agree, though, with eliminating permits to non-residents. If you can't get a permit in your state under reasonable requirements then work to change your state's process. As a CCW permit holder I was shocked to see the lax standards here in Utah compared to other states. We need to get a handle on it before it comes back to bite us.

If an out of state person wants a UTAH permit, let them come here, otherwise they can get a permit in their own state. Why is it Utah's job to give permits to everyone.

I do think that the permits from other states should be honored in Utah.

If we expect other states to recognize our CCW permits, maybe we should recognize their gay marriages. That would be reciprocity.

What Huntsman should have a hard time with is issuing so many permits in the first place.

My personal feeling is that prior to anyone being licensed with a concealed permit should also receive the training necessary for that person to qualify as a deputy sherrif.

Allowing ordinary Joe-Blows to walk down the street, "packing heat", with only weapons training, is the most absolute supidity one could imagine.

This is a great step in the right direction. There is no reason that Utah should be certifying people from out of state as trainers.

Go for it, Gov. Huntsman!!

Please research the subject before you open your lips. Out of staters are trying to get OUR permit because OUR permit is recognized by more states than any other. We recognize all unites states permits, we are one of the only states who does that. Thus over 30 other states recognize ours.

Our permit is the best permit all all these United States. Changing it is just stupid ploy. I can't believe the residents of this states are either this naive or actually agree with this insane man.

I vote that we seperate form the Northern half of the State. They are starting to push their worldly agenda on the rest of the counties.

Form a new state called Deseret where we actually obey the Constitution and don't elect elite socialist pretend republican gov's.

Drop the entire permit system. Criminals don't carry permits. It's nothing more than a tax on law abiding citizens. It's like taxing a person for working out at the gym to protect them from obesity.

Gun laws should focus on violators, not responsible gun owners and persons responsibly defending themselves.

I fully respect the Bill of Rights (including the 2nd ammendment). I also approve of our State's Conceiled carry law, even though I personally don't have a permit (because personally I don't need/want one). but I feel it is good that those who do need/want them can get them.

I am glad the only thing keeping me from getting a permit is that I don't want it (not a law that would prohibit me getting one no matter how badly I want/need it).

HOWEVER, I feel it is circumventing other States rights and their State Sovereignty for Utah to give permits to residents of other states. People living in states with more restrictive permit processes should work on changing the law in their state instead of running to Utah to get their permit.

The Utah CCWP is the closest thing to a national permit there is. This is the main reason why so many folks from out of state acquire this permit. Our CCWP is accepted in more states than any other. Gov. Huntsman has said nothing about not allowing out-of-staters get these, but that they should come here first. And by the way, it is legal to carry a gun that is not concealed, the only requirement is that the weapon has to be two steps away from firing, whereas, a CCWP allows the holder to be ready to fire. The Supreme Court did hold up the 2nd Ammendment, but what Gov. Huntsman is proposing does not infringe upon our rights on bit!

First off, do any of you who agree with this proposal have any idea about the process of getting a CWP in this state? EVERYONE applying for our permit regardless if your instate or out of state has to provide a copy of a valid drivers license, the paperwork has to be notorized, the applicant has to be fingerprinted, and then BCI does a FBI background check. So explain to me how we are giving permits to criminals and illegals? I'm in favor or raising the cost for out of state permits the same way we do with hunting permits to generate the extra revenue we can use to monitor more closely the out of state permit holders and instructors.

Why should I have to have a permit to carry any weapon? The criminals never have one, and yet they carry. Do any of you think that any law will stop the criminal from packing? Then why do I need one?
The only thing the law, or the requirement to get a permit does is create another money hungry government entity that is self serving, and continues to want more and more money for the service of regulating the law abiding citizen.
The law abiding citizen is all that you are affecting. Not the criminals. There are already too many stupid laws on the books, that only affect the good guys, and we need to get rid of them all.
Do as Virginia does and dont require any laws or permits to pack.