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FLDS grand jury ends for the day

In Texas a monogamous 50 year old man can marry a 16 year old with parental consent.

A 50 year old polygamous man cannot take a 16 year old as a second wife, with parental consent, because polygamy is against the law. Therefore, the union defaults to statutory rape. If polygamy were legal, than legally, this would not be a problem.

If this isn't about polygamy, then legalize polygamy. If you have a problem with 16 year old marrying 50 year olds, change the law so nobody can do that, not just polygamist.

So now Teresa Jeffs has to go into court with a lawyer that WANTS her to lie and go against everything she hold dear, to prove that she (Natalie Molonis) can imtimidate and threaten just because she thinks the way a biased judge Barbara Walthers thinks. Are they going to get away with it??? AMERICA, STAND UP FOR THIS GIRLS' RIGHTS AS YOURS ARE ALSO IN GREAT JEOPARDY!!!! IS THIS CROOKED JUDGE AND ATTORNEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO RUIN THIS GIRLS' LIFE TO SAVE FACE???!!! CALL YOUR CONGRESSMEN, SEND LETTERS TO THE GOVERNOR--AMERICA, DO SOMETHING NOW!!!!

Wrong has been done against the FLDS. It's the CPS that should be investigated.

I have to giggle at the handful of FLDS people who post under different monikers to try and persuade the public that the law is on their side.

There is never a good reason for arranging and performing child-bride rapes. NEVER!

Also, can someone please tell me if these "poor picked on people" haven't done anything wrong, why the heck is Merrill Jessop in hiding?

You have inside information from a Grand Jury investigation that Teresa Jeffs is being forced to lie?

Or this accusation simply your own self-serving smokescreen trying to prevent the truth from coming out?

Mel wrote that the FLDS was trying to persuade us the law was on their side.

Actually, so far it has been on their side. The Texas supreme court rule the DPFS of Texas broke the law. Yes rape is bad, and I don't think anybody denies it, but in the United States you are innocent until proven guilty. Thank God we don't what people think happened does not codemn a person. While I hope tht no rape took place, I also kind of hope they prove something since this has cost Texas a bundle of money, with no resukts so far. I worry that the DPFS has acted in such an inept way, even if someone is guilty, they may go free.

We don't live in Utah, but we regularly read the internet version of the Deseret News. Honestly, we do it for the comments section following each news story. This news site has some of the most entertaining postings. Some are intelligent, some are biased, some are full of emotion, some are full of rage, we love them all. Keep up the postings, you have fans!

this is what you get when you build your life on a bunch of lies!

I'm glad [Out of State reader | 9:56 a.m.] enjoys reading the postings (especially on these weird topics). I try my best to be entertaining (though opinionated).

Personally, I hope the Grand Jury can get to the bottom of... How a search warrant gets signed by a Judge when NONE of the information it was based on was real (and could EASILY be verified as false if the people on the numerous bogus calls did even the most simple of investigations on the calls that punked them. Just checking caller ID would have told them it was a scam.

I thought judges were carefull to make sure the info being presented by someone asking for a search-warrant had been checked and double-checked. Evidently not in this case.

I understand how it snowballed after that, but I don't know how you pull up to someone's doorstep with tanks, swat teams, busses to ship kids, etc, with a warrant 100% based on lies.

Of course the FLDS have their legal issues too (and I think they will eventually catch up to them), but they aren't the Government. When the State-Government is evidently corrupt and breaking the law, that's a BIG-problem.

Uhm, "Felons I say!", I'm guessing you are referring to CPS and I agree with you.

I must agree with "Think," who posted at 9:06 AM.
Due to the actions in Texas, many of our rights are being threatened and we do need to do something about it.

Mel-it makes me laugh too! They post a zillion times and then one of them says "Well, it's apparent that public opinion has really turned in favor of the FLDS!" Um, no, they just post a lot!

I happen to believe the folks who post on here are just everyday folks such as myself. I also have to believe that all of the nasty, bitter anti-flds posts are by Mel the Troll posting under many alias.

I have been a lurker for some time without posting until today. In Anonymous post at 10:52, does he/she know the public opinion of the rest of the world as to the state of Texas? The FLDS is getting lots of sympathy. The life style is surely not agreed with if the accusations are true, which I have seen nothing to prove they are.
I am not FLDS nor LDS. (I also know there is a difference) I am from the southeast and many of us are reading the comments and keeping up with the latest news. All feel CPS and your rotten judge should be on trial instead of this little girl.

Anonymous...is right with all the post how many individuals are actually posting or is it just a handful with different names.

Not only Ol' Merril is in hiding.

There is nothing wrong with the Texas Judge, she is an amazing woman...It must be pretty scary to some of you people that some of these "little girls" just might speak up and tell what kinds of life they have been living and what is expected of them by a bunch of old men. At least one of these "little girls" now knows that her attorney is not afraid to stand up to the church, Utah attorneys or Willy. Hopefully it will be contagious more of the children's attorneys will get involved.

Texas is not done yet!

perhaps if the FLDS would quit taking helpless little children and filling their heads with doomsday theories and paranoia - then they would stand a chance of having a normal life. This is America, not Afganistan, and there's no excuse for creating an environment that stifles opportunity.

I know you have your beliefs, and I don't care how whack they are - but you should not force it on the children. It's unethical.

Give the children a chance at a real future, not a made-up one with talk of being a god with your own planet. How whack is that? How are they supposed to lead a normal life with that kind of craziness being pumped into their heads?

And even if you want to tell them these things, you don't need to segregate them from society so they have no clue about the real world. They will lead scared little lives instead of full opportunity-filled lives. Give them a chance to decide their own future, instead of creating little mini-me clones.

You people are cruel and don't even know it. How sad.

Hey there reality check....how wack are most religions....every religion has their own faith based reward for playing by the rules.
Every religion fills their childrens heads with their own version of a reward for playing by the religious rules.
Sit in an east Texas classroom and creation "science" is filling the heads of children to combat the dinosaur theory of evolution.
Every child grows up and to some degree rejects the fairy tails of their childhood and accepts some degree of their own interpretation of things.
Most people reject Santa Clause at some point only to teach their own kids the myth.
Flora rejected her upbringing in her teens.....Carolyn rejected her upbringing in her 30's......and Elisa questioned her decision to say yes from day one.
Life is an individual choice and we all grow to make those choices based on our upbringing at different rates.
There is no "normal" life......only varying degrees of interpretation of "normal"

Well stated! I'm not FLDS or LDS either and so many people I know (mostly Baptist/Christians) think CPS was WAY OUT OF LINE to take these kids from their parents.
If you think you can console yourself by thinking that that these posters are a bunch of FLDS, you probably fall into the category of those who refuse to believe CPS/Walthers made a huge mistake- even though two courts overturned her decision. But hey- maybe your just in denial- I'll give you that.

Not right to give my beliefs to my children? Ultimately my children will think for themselves and decide for themselves how they will live their life in this world. But giving them direction, love, guidance concerning moral and spirtual issues is the JOB OF THE PARENT. That's part of the issue with this whole FLDS thing!! Who determines what's right with regards to the raising of children? The government or parent (or realitycheck??)
FLDS has a right to raise their children according to their beliefs. Please don't give me brainwashing gig. When these kids are older they will make their own way, just like our children will.

Ok...put up or shut up. I've been watching this case almost from the start. When I see some concrete proof I'll give you some credit.
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. Too bad your "incredible woman (Walthers)" was slapped down by two of her superior courts. What a great judge lol ???!!!
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Not FLDS in VA