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Jed A. Peeler | 10:05 p.m. June 16, 2008
The people from West Jordan should have made an accurately depicted doll of
Obama; one which when the string was pulled, sung the Internacionale , then lead
a torchlight parade!
Anonymous | 8:53 a.m. June 17, 2008
it constantly amazes me how uneducated & blind many utahns are....
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Confused | 8:56 a.m. June 18, 2008
I think it was funny and even looked like him. Does that make me a racist?
Funny. I didn't grow up fourty-fifty years ago.
I'm in my early 20's and white. Does that make me a racist if I think that this is just a funny look alike parody doll? Or does it make me ignorant?
Honestly.
These days, racial prejudice and injustice is CREATED more than it is CAUSED these days, imho.
But then again, I can't say anything. I'm in my twenties, and I'm white.
I'm in my early 20's and white. Does that make me a racist if I think that this is just a funny look alike parody doll? Or does it make me ignorant?
Honestly.
These days, racial prejudice and injustice is CREATED more than it is CAUSED these days, imho.
But then again, I can't say anything. I'm in my twenties, and I'm white.
Amy | 9:40 a.m. June 18, 2008
"I'm in my early 20's and white. Does that make me a racist if I
think that this is just a funny look alike parody doll? Or does it make me
ignorant?"
I'm in my early 20's, and I'm white, and I still know that this was wrong. So yeah, it does make you ignorant. Even worse, you seem to be proud of it.
I'm in my early 20's, and I'm white, and I still know that this was wrong. So yeah, it does make you ignorant. Even worse, you seem to be proud of it.
RE: Confused | 12:45 p.m. June 18, 2008
FYI: Racial prejudice and injustice have been "created" for centuries.
I don't have the slightest idea what you mean by "caused," unless
you mean that the blind exercise of power, greed, and hate, combined with
intolerance and lack of humane compassion, has caused racism. But prejudice is
NOT imaginary, contrary to the suggestions of those who frequently use these
arguments. They still happen--often under the radar, yeah, but they still
happen.
Consider, for as long as it takes: Yes, this doll is a parody, and very much so. OF WHAT? Answer that question in light of Black American history and you've got it!
Revs. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and others still strike many uninformed whites as over-vigilant. They might overreact in some cases and still have things to learn. (Rev. Sharpton learned his--and reasonably well--about the LDS some time ago.)
Yet in many cases, they're informing us that prejudice is still alive and at work. And IT IS. Open your eyes, and you'll see it.
Consider, for as long as it takes: Yes, this doll is a parody, and very much so. OF WHAT? Answer that question in light of Black American history and you've got it!
Revs. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and others still strike many uninformed whites as over-vigilant. They might overreact in some cases and still have things to learn. (Rev. Sharpton learned his--and reasonably well--about the LDS some time ago.)
Yet in many cases, they're informing us that prejudice is still alive and at work. And IT IS. Open your eyes, and you'll see it.
John Lambert | 2:56 p.m. June 18, 2008
Despite being a bad assumption, people assume anything that happens in Utah
stems from the LDS Church. It is not true, but it is still what people
throughout the country assume.
John Lambert | 3:03 p.m. June 18, 2008
To Jake,
YOu obviously have never lived in Michigan. I still know people who have stories about police stopping them soley because of their race, police following them to make sure they leave town and on and on.
However true it is, there are still many people in the city of Detroit who feel if they go into the suburbs they will face discrimination. Utah has no monopoly on racism. It was in Nevada where I met the people who were complaining about how there housing values would crash if black people moved in next door. It was a lady raised in Montana and recently moved from Idaho who said she felt unsafe surrounded by a bunch of black people in Detroit. Utah has no monopoly on racism.
It was in West Virginia where a large number of oters admitted that race was a primary factor in their decision on how to vote in the election. This is despite the fact that studies have shown that people will lie about how they will vote on racially cahrged issues.
YOu obviously have never lived in Michigan. I still know people who have stories about police stopping them soley because of their race, police following them to make sure they leave town and on and on.
However true it is, there are still many people in the city of Detroit who feel if they go into the suburbs they will face discrimination. Utah has no monopoly on racism. It was in Nevada where I met the people who were complaining about how there housing values would crash if black people moved in next door. It was a lady raised in Montana and recently moved from Idaho who said she felt unsafe surrounded by a bunch of black people in Detroit. Utah has no monopoly on racism.
It was in West Virginia where a large number of oters admitted that race was a primary factor in their decision on how to vote in the election. This is despite the fact that studies have shown that people will lie about how they will vote on racially cahrged issues.
Minorities can be Racist too? | 3:25 p.m. June 18, 2008
"Revs. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and others still strike many uninformed
whites as over-vigilant. They might overreact in some cases and still have
things to learn."
Over-vigilant??
Rev. Sharpton, Kean College 1994; �White folks was in caves while we was building empires ... We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it."
Black Entertainment Television/Network? Black Church? If they were White Entertainment or White church it would be racist.
Over-vigilant??
Rev. Sharpton, Kean College 1994; �White folks was in caves while we was building empires ... We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it."
Black Entertainment Television/Network? Black Church? If they were White Entertainment or White church it would be racist.
Amy | 3:57 p.m. June 18, 2008
"Black Entertainment Television/Network? Black Church? If they were White
Entertainment or White church it would be racist."
Most of the other channels ARE the white entertainment networks. Do you know why there are black churches? Because white people made the black church members sit in balconies, and didn't let them participate. Because white "Christians" didn't recognize the humanity of their black brothers and sisters in Christ. My father preached at a black church one Sunday when their regular preacher was out of town; everyone was very kind and welcoming to us.
Most of the other channels ARE the white entertainment networks. Do you know why there are black churches? Because white people made the black church members sit in balconies, and didn't let them participate. Because white "Christians" didn't recognize the humanity of their black brothers and sisters in Christ. My father preached at a black church one Sunday when their regular preacher was out of town; everyone was very kind and welcoming to us.
Big B | 6:47 p.m. June 18, 2008
Give me a break! This is obvious racism. The couple who have made the doll are
despicable. If this would have come out of Alabama or Mississippi, people would
blame it on "Crackers, Jim Crow racists" or whatever. But since it
comes out of Utah, everyone will assume it is an LDS viewpoint. I don't
know what religion or politics these people espouse, but this is beyond the
pale. It's not funny, it's not correct -- politically or otherwise,
it's sick. I would have thought by now, even those benighted people in
West Jordan would have realized that this is terrible. "Let's makd a
buck on racism!"
And incidentally, I have never compared President Bush to a chimp. Just the south end of a north bound horse!
And incidentally, I have never compared President Bush to a chimp. Just the south end of a north bound horse!
RE: Minorities Can Be Racist | 11:17 p.m. June 18, 2008
Thanks for the Keane College quote. Nobody said Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson
were perfect or that every word they spoke was Gospel Truth. Actually, quite the
opposite sometimes, as you show!
Here's the sentence you quoted, but sorry to say, I think you missed its true significance:
"They might overreact in some cases and still have things to learn."
Well, there you have it! We still have to think critically about what these men say. They, as many other experts in other fields, can sometimes be wrong--and very much so. Excellent point!
On the whole, however, they should continue alerting the public to the fact that racism and prejudice are still alive and well--WHICH IS TRUE. The Obama sock puppet is direct and compelling evidence of that!
Here's the sentence you quoted, but sorry to say, I think you missed its true significance:
"They might overreact in some cases and still have things to learn."
Well, there you have it! We still have to think critically about what these men say. They, as many other experts in other fields, can sometimes be wrong--and very much so. Excellent point!
On the whole, however, they should continue alerting the public to the fact that racism and prejudice are still alive and well--WHICH IS TRUE. The Obama sock puppet is direct and compelling evidence of that!
To Amy | 1:04 a.m. June 19, 2008
Amen! You took the words out of my mouth.
I honestly do not know how to communicate to people the fact that white privilege is alive and well in this country - and because of it, people of other races and ethnicities are often disadvantaged.
I honestly do not know how to communicate to people the fact that white privilege is alive and well in this country - and because of it, people of other races and ethnicities are often disadvantaged.
To confused | 1:15 a.m. June 19, 2008
"But then again, I can't say anything. I'm in my twenties, and
I'm white."
Exactly. When, in the history of this country were white people enslaved enmasse for generations? Lynched based on the color of their skin? Subjected to laws the prohibited them from buying homes in certain areas of cities? Kept from voting because they were white? Made to sit on the back of the bus because they were white? Kept out of elite colleges and universities because they were white? Denied full membership in certain religious organizations because they were white? Used by researchers in highly unethical medical research programs because they were white? Made to attend segregated schools because they were white? I could go on and on.
That's right - none of these things happened to white people. But, as a white person myself, I can tell you that you can EDUCATE yourself about the history of both white and non-white people in this country. When you do, I think you will find that as a white person, you have the benefit of privileges that people of other colors and ethnicities are afforded. Please - use that privilege for the betterment of all around you.
Exactly. When, in the history of this country were white people enslaved enmasse for generations? Lynched based on the color of their skin? Subjected to laws the prohibited them from buying homes in certain areas of cities? Kept from voting because they were white? Made to sit on the back of the bus because they were white? Kept out of elite colleges and universities because they were white? Denied full membership in certain religious organizations because they were white? Used by researchers in highly unethical medical research programs because they were white? Made to attend segregated schools because they were white? I could go on and on.
That's right - none of these things happened to white people. But, as a white person myself, I can tell you that you can EDUCATE yourself about the history of both white and non-white people in this country. When you do, I think you will find that as a white person, you have the benefit of privileges that people of other colors and ethnicities are afforded. Please - use that privilege for the betterment of all around you.
Dustyo | 8:48 a.m. June 21, 2008
Selling these dolls is very offensive to the majority of the educated Americans.
These people seem not to care about our country very much. Selling divisive
and mean things like this just to make some quick cash, but at what a price? We
have been divided as a country for the last eight years, and we need to come
together and heal, attacking one of our own in such a mean way seems so
anti-American. We are in awesome times in our country when old wounds can be
mended, and here comes the same old ignorant tripe. Anything to make a buck, I
suppose next they will be selling their children on ebay. Talk about selling
your morals and scruples for a price. But what is new here? They probably are
getting far to much free advertisement with these blogs. I really don't
think the end justify the means.
monkeygirl | 9:08 p.m. June 22, 2008
where can i buy one of those?????
M. Anderson | 3:59 p.m. Aug. 1, 2008
Why didnt the stupid women who wrote this story give up the name of the West
Jordan company so we can go buy Obama monkey dolls?
Fred | 5:27 p.m. Sept. 19, 2008
What we need to ask ourselves-is our own U.S. citizensip more importent then our
race? Is (OUR) laws more importent then those that keep break them? Indeed we
are not a racist country at all,yet a country of laws,that need to be enforced
instead! Unless I.D. and S.S.I. fraud are no longer real crimes! But NO one can
ever explane what race an illegal alien is anyway??
smileyfaceMcJoy | 8:12 a.m. Oct. 4, 2008
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