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Anonymous | 1:25 a.m. June 10, 2008
Now let's have the schools check the kids for the same info and we will be taking a huge step in the right direction.

Per pupil school funding in Utah would increase dramatically if we only were checking the legality of the students enrolling.

Wouldn't be that hard to do either.
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Bob G | 4:23 a.m. June 10, 2008
So Governor Huntsman, you can disband and dismiss your study group trying to force illegal aliens in to the Utah economic disaster these illegals are causing. Put americans to work, not illegal alien mexicans. It would help the economy and the slumping tax collections from earnings and wages. It will help the Social Security system, the Medicare system, the Medicaid system if we had workers and employers paying the taxes into these programs that the americans are paying into. Keep the american wage dollars in america, not the foreign mexican banks. If Utah businessmen were forced to hire legal foreign national workers it would benefit america and Utah. This push to force americans out of work to employ illegals has no benefits, except to the business who are profiting millions of dollars a year by not paying their due taxes out of workers wages. Because a large employer can put out hundreds of dollars if not thousands per employee to buy illegal identities on the black market should tell you something about why Utah businessmen want to keep the illegals employed. It's not that americans don't want the jobs as businesmen claim, it's that illegals have a no tax benefit.
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Ronald A. Young | 4:50 a.m. June 10, 2008
That good to control New Hires but what about the Millions already working who are not legal. All employers need to verify all workers and face heavy fines and even jail time for repeat offense plus loss of business, just like if you where caught with drugs in your business. Only in many ways this is even worse. There is no reason for illegal�s to be working in this country. It is just that we do not have the will to control the situation. Try going to Mexico and working as an illegal and see how long you last. For example in the 60's when there was a Draft and lots of people where given the honor of serving their Country. All Males over 18 had to be Registered and Carry Draft Cards. The Draft Card had your name, address, phone number and Draft Status. Your Draft Status was determined by the Draft Board. You did not mess with a member of the Local Draft Boards Daughter. Deferments where not automatic if you went to School, if you where pacifist they drafted you and you did not have to carry a Gun if you didn�t want to. You still went.
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Lee | 6:02 a.m. June 10, 2008
Anonymous is exactly right.But don't stop there.Check ID's when illegals sign up for benefits.Thier not entitled to them.And for those of you who say we are cold, how else do we stop the flow of them coming in?We are constantly told that to round them all up would be almost inpossible.When we enforce the laws that are already in place, we can be very effective in stopping illigals from coming in.
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Carl | 6:12 a.m. June 10, 2008
This is long overdue. Now let's do it in the private sector.
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Welcome to the homeland! | 6:19 a.m. June 10, 2008
YOUR PAPERZ PLEEZZZ!
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re Anonymous | 1:25 a.m. | 6:21 a.m. June 10, 2008
Don't you ever get tired of pounding on the same issue?
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Helga | 6:23 a.m. June 10, 2008
We finally going in the right direction.
I'm all about checking for legality.
Thank you Homeland securety.
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Who Cares! | 6:25 a.m. June 10, 2008
Oh yeah, THAT's a GREAT idea - having the children of illegals roaming the streets during the day. That's just moving the cost from the schools to the police and society. We're going to pay one way or the other.

Think like someone looking for work - would YOU move to a place where you know you can't be hired? Hell no. If you want to stop illegals from working you MUST stop the people hiring them. No work, no illegals - simple economics. We don't have an immigration problem, we have a security problem - it's U.S. firms that knowingly hire illegals that perpetuate the immigration problem.
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Charles | 6:34 a.m. June 10, 2008
We know the they are stalling this illegal immigration (Illegal) might be the election in Nov, you see, they want that vote you know what I mean. Texas, AZ, NM, CA. They do not care for the working folks, who is affected most by illegal immigration. Mitt said what he would do about illegal immigration and you see where it got him. They let the best man go. 12 million illegals using our energy up,Mexico should give free oil to us, we are helping them to get rid of their poor. the richest man in the world is living in Mwxico. They pick on the FLDS and do nothing about Mexican durgs,border fence etc. We are being guided by the wrong kind of folks, amen.
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crusty | 7:02 a.m. June 10, 2008
Too little, too late.
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Migra man | 7:04 a.m. June 10, 2008
Mano dura contra los ilegales. Keep it up until there's no place for them to hide.
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Ironic | 7:25 a.m. June 10, 2008
It's funny that the article quotes Chris Cannon. He's received campaign money in the past from an immigration lawyer representing Agriprocessors. It makes you wonder what his REAL position is.
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James | 7:32 a.m. June 10, 2008
Some of the comments show a lack of understanding about so many policies and economic principles.

In any case, while this is a good step you have to consider the implications. The one comment that denotes a little German fascism related to seeking everyone's papers.

Just last week a leading advocate of a North American integration noted that we need biometric ID cards for everyone. Your demand for a perfect system to stop illegal aliens will ultimately give us a National ID card. One leader within the Dept of Homeland Defense has refered to this future National ID as an internal passport. Is that what you really want? You are so passionate about this subject that you are willing to create an eastern european feel to America?

Really?
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Frustrated! | 7:42 a.m. June 10, 2008
ILLEGAL!!!!!! I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHY. My husband has been going through the emigration process for about five months now. He is from ENGLAND NO LESS, OUR ALLIED COUNTRY.
He has filled out at least 25 forms. He has been finger printed. Photographed and we are now into it over $6000. This is all before he can get a green card to work here. Would he have been better off had he come via the mexican border?
I don't know the answer to this.
I am very disappointed in the system.
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Bill | 7:43 a.m. June 10, 2008
I am all for checking at the workplace and our company has been doing it for the past eight years successfully. But most of you ignore a real reality that is not easy to wish away. With 3% unemployment in Utah, where are all the people who are unemployed because of illegal aliens taking their jobs - not many. Basically, anyone who wants to work in Utah can find a job.

The big issue if we deported all the illegal aliens is there are vast segments of our economy who can't find workers any where else. For example, fast food, landscaping, residential construction, menial labor jobs. How many Americans are linig up to go work at McDonalds when all the illegals are sent packing.

We have become spoiled and some of us will have to go back to minimum wage jobs if you guys have your way. I also venture to say that there will not be enough bodies to go around to fill all the needs.
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Andrea | 8:08 a.m. June 10, 2008
why only the mexicans??
they are not the only ones coming to america ilegal...
they are the only ones that are not allowed to stay in america legally like cubans,haitans,etc.
how many other (not mexicans) do you see harvesting what we eat.any other nationality arrives here puts one foot on america soil and,BOOM;;;they get to stay get free homes free buisnesses free cars;;etc.
our america does not have any of they"re tax dollars unclaimed each year.
there is millions upon millions of dollars each year that our fedaral keeps from these MEXICANS that can not claim it at the end of the year.so MEXICANS have paid into the system
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Anonymous | 8:15 a.m. June 10, 2008
To Frustrated:
I hear you, my husband and I are in the same situation as you guys, but he is not from England he is from Mexico. So your husband would not have been better off coming from Mex.
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CJ | 8:40 a.m. June 10, 2008
"Lee" and "Anonymous" are right! But I want to go a step further. After we make sure that all the children of illegal immigrants are kicked out of our schools, even though they didn't make the choice to come here illegally, let's get them deported too! After all, we can't have thousands of elementary school aged children roaming the streets!

I have an idea, lets round them up and store them in the "temporary homes" we used for the Japanese in WW2. Then, after we've created a government police force big enough to deport all 15 million of them, let's put them in buses and take them back to where they came from!

I hope all of you xenophobes understand my sarcasm. Let's treat these people, ESPECIALLY the children, in a humane, respectful way. I agree that we need to secure the border. But let's allow those hardworking immigrants who are already here to have hope of one day becoming legal citizens!
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to Bill | 8:44 a.m. June 10, 2008
I am one of those people who has been denied a job because 'hablo espanol un poquito' It's not just them I am also denied jobs because of my age - over 40. A job that I applied for and had an interview for with great feedback. the employer is still running an ad looking for help. I applied at the end of April. I have sent a follow up email to check on the status of my application and have received no answer. I am going to send my resume yet again today - it will be the third time I have applied with the company. The first time I applied was when I first moved here.

There are jobs out there, it is the employers not the employees who are being picky. If this wasn't the case then we would have 0.1% unemployment not 3%
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