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Real Salt Lake, K.C. wind up scoreless in SLC

Anonymous | 12:23 a.m. June 8, 2008

i want something done. jason needs to be fired. We need a designated player!!!!!!!!!!

Soccerman | 5:55 a.m. June 8, 2008

I thought the team played really well last night. Kansas City was lucky to walk away with a point. It was unfortunate that Hartman had such a good game and RSL wasn't able to slot one past him. I'm looking forward to a road win against Chivas. Time to beat up on the expansion brethren and get redemption from the last time when they beat us with Atiba Harris.

Same ol' Story | 7:17 a.m. June 8, 2008

This is getting old. Kreis was nothing but excuses in the post game interview. I've tried to support this franchise for three seasons and it's not making a lot of progress. The crowds are dwindling and the product is getting boring!

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soccer's big problem | 7:52 a.m. June 8, 2008

it's boring.

the game started 0-0. it ended 0-0. all those people came, bought a ticket, and watched a couple hours of defense.

BORING!!!

Make the goal bigger. Get rid of the goalie. Or remove that silly off-sides rule that nobody gets or really cares about.

re: same ol story | 8:17 a.m. June 8, 2008

Boring?
You must not understand or appreciate the subtle nuances of the beautiful game.

Like the beauty and excitement of almost getting a shot off. Or the beauty of almost scoring. Or the excitement of your opponent almost scoring.

Or when the keeper scoops up a slowly rolling ball and then boots it halfway down the field.

Clearly you did not learn during your childhood the fun, the thrills and the wonder of a well-played game of keepaway.

Anonymous | 8:27 a.m. June 8, 2008

Last night was my first visit to the stadium to watch RSL - a very fun experience. I'll definitely be back.

ZZZZZZ | 9:11 a.m. June 8, 2008

No scoring?!?! And this is suppose to be fun to watch? This is the number one reason why soccer will never make it in the United States. Wake me up when someone scores!!! What a joke!

Boring | 9:30 a.m. June 8, 2008

Boooooooooring soccer last night!!!!!

oussan | 10:44 a.m. June 8, 2008

@soccer's big problem

"...a couple hours of defense"? Clearly you didn't watch the game. RSL fired off 19 shots, and 5 shots on goal. There was some very exciting offense on display last night, exhibited mostly by the home side.

You can't judge the entire game solely on goals scored, even if it is ultimately the most important stat. Saves in particular can be every bit as exciting as a goal (Hartman was huge last night!), and removing the goalie is a ridiculous suggestion.

It's not hard to gain an appreciation for the game, but it's certainly easier to make ignorant critiques and attacks... but feel free to take the easy way out.

It happens | 11:03 a.m. June 8, 2008

Sometimes Man U goes 0-0. It happens. RSL actually played a good game. They just didn't finish. Part of that is bad luck. Part of that is strikers who need to improve their finishing. However, there are games in which Man U cant even finish tons of easy chances. If it happens to Man U it is definitely going to happen to RSL sometimes. However, the real problem is we need to start winning on the road. If we don't start putting it together on the road we are done.

It will also help when Espindola is back. He is clearly our best striker.

REAL fan | 1:05 p.m. June 8, 2008

From the goal through the midfield RSL is probably about as good as any team in MLS (or at least close). The TV commentators, including Bruce Arena last night, all mention about how much better this year's RSL club is compared to the past. Much of the time the team possesses the ball and plays attractive soccer and creates chances. Anyone that played soccer, at a decent level, or has watched the game at fairly high level, for a good part of their life, should have appreciated the way RSL played last night, accept for the lack of finishing. Unfortunately, this is an obvious problem that the team has had since the start of the season. If RSL could get at least one quality finisher they would have a realistic chance to make the playoffs. Without a finisher, however, it is going to be almost impossibe to string a few wins together...Lastly, blaming Kreis is not the answer. He can't go in and shot for the forwards. although it would be nice if he could...You've got to tip your hat to him for putting together a pretty attractive side in a relative short period of time. Give him a scorer.

Soccer, boring? | 1:21 p.m. June 8, 2008

It is completely acceptable to believe soccer boring. However, if you criticize soccer but love/watch baseball, than you're a hypocrite. Baseball is way worse than soccer. It stops after EVERY PITCH. There's an overweight fatty on the mound and one steroid addict on the plate and three guys in the outfield chewing sunflower seeds. (The the game is so boring even the players need diversion!) Baseball is the American "pastime" because IT HAS NO FUTURE. "The Beautiful Game" soccer is rapidly taking its place.

Dave | 3:10 p.m. June 8, 2008

Even in a 0-0 game, something still happens. RSL picked up a point to apply towards the playoffs (hopefully). I was hoping for three points.

This is a dimension of sport that is missing from traditional American sports: in soccer you don't just score goals and walk away with a win, loss or tie. You also earn points towards the ultimate goal.

I find soccer exciting. No commercials, time-outs, free throws, etc. It is non-stop play. In baseball you often have only two players on the field doing anything. In football play stops every 10 seconds. In basketball there are way too many free throws stopping the flow of the game and too many commercial breaks.

Wasn't a Good Game | 6:21 p.m. June 8, 2008

A good game at home is a win. A good game on the road is a tie. A tie at home is a kick in the pants. Seventy -five percent of the shots on goal last night were weak and way off the mark. We dominated the game, but couldn't find the net. And we waited too late to sub and still had an additional sub that Jason didn't use. What the crap? Was he saving it for a rainy day? Were they playing that well that a coach wouldn't want to mix it up? Had the score been 2-0 I would have agreed with his decision to not use the last sub, or had we been on the road, OK don't sub. BUT AT HOME? The fans are pissed. Jason has to go.

Anonymous | 7:10 p.m. June 8, 2008

So they took 19 shots and five of them were actually towards the goal! And in 90 minutes.

That is exciting.

John | 7:58 p.m. June 8, 2008

I've only watched the highlights and it was definitely exciting - lots of chances created, even if none were finished.

My impression was that the surface of the pitch had a huge influence of the outcome by changing the way the ball bounces - the sooner RSL get playing on a real surface the real team will start playing!

Bye bye Jason | 9:36 p.m. June 8, 2008

Jason needs to go, nothing has changed. We are not any better because we are still at the bottom, still cant score. Just wanting for the fire Kreis web sites. In addition has everyone seen the ticket prices for next year?!?!?!?!?! Ridiculous!!!
I am begining to think that maybe RSL may just be a flash in the pan here and they will leave Utah with the bill for a stadium.

I am no rocket scientist but there is to much conflict and boneheaded moves in the feont office concerning EVERYTHING!!!!

Fire Kreis, get some wins and things will change

Not bad...not great either... | 9:05 a.m. June 9, 2008

....we need a finisher...

Someone who scares defenders. I don't think Deuchar is it. Espindola maybe...but he's injured every third game.

Anonymous | 2:15 p.m. June 9, 2008

IT IS CALLED OFF SIDE!!! NOT OFF SIDES!!! UTAH SOCCER FANS ARE CLUELESS... OFF SIDES WOULD MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T BE ANYWHERE ON THE FIELD. GET IT STRAIGHT. THANKS!

ALL CAPS = | 2:33 p.m. June 9, 2008

Clueless, do you realize how dumb you look when you shout with all caps?

Utah Soccer fans... | 2:34 p.m. June 9, 2008

...wow...that is quite the generalization. Probably comes from someone who lives in Colorado :)

Utefan | 2:57 p.m. June 9, 2008

Why do we even need a soccer team? RSL stink. I bet the Ute Girls soccer team could beat them. Even the BYU womens soccer team. We are wasting tax payers money to build them a stadium. Lets get Major League Baseball team instead.

"Lets get MLB?" | 4:43 p.m. June 9, 2008

Yeah Right....You think people in Utah flipped when the Soccer Stadium was built, just wait till they see the price tag of a MLB stadium. Utahns are silly people, and don't realize a good thing until its gone.

Anyway, it'll never happen. You are lucky to have soccer, even if a handful of you are selfishly ashamed of it.

Stadium | 12:11 p.m. June 10, 2008

MLB. Are you serious? I love to play baseball, but I can't stand watching baseball. The soccer stadium will be awesome!!! Any educated person would know that tax payers aren't paying for the stadium. GO RSL.Get a win on the road. And make sure you aren't caught off sideS :).

almost | 3:16 p.m. June 10, 2008

Well we almost got through a whole post without a lousy stadium comment.

Utefan - you are an idiot.

STEVE-O | 5:44 p.m. June 10, 2008

@ REAL FAN 1:05 PM

They HAD a scorer!!! His name was Jeff Cunningham!! But Kreis only wants players that are like HIM!! Unfortuneatley we couldn't win with him on the team either.
I went to the game Saturday and REal played well, but they just don't have that Killer instict. It starts with the coach. I'm not saying Kreis is a horrible coach, but HE put this team together so HE needs to be the one to get the wins moving. The players are playing hard but something is missing in their Psychy!

American | 5:53 p.m. June 10, 2008

It's great that I can be thrown in jail if I don't pay for the soccer stadium (through my taxes). I feel like I'm living in the USSR.

Anonymous | 2:02 p.m. June 11, 2008

you arent paying with your taxes... its hotel taxes that charge people staying at the hotels...

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