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Split was a heavy burden for FLDS family

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Bartleby | 2:01 a.m. June 4, 2008
What a relief these beautiful children are back home. What happened to them should not be forgotten - this enormous crime against the FLDS must not be forgotten. This affects all parents and children everywhere. The power of CPS is out of control, and abusive. Demand that politicians and judges are held accountable, and that CPS is abolished. If you are truly concerned about abused children, then the proper authorities should investigate, in the proper manner - that is, the police, and NOT CPS - who, as even a Internet search will show, have been convicted of crimes such as abuse, rape, murder, and are constantly violating parents' and childrens' rights.

Sign the online petition to impeach Judge Barbara Walther - and ask all your friends, neighbours and associates to do the same. That is only the start-do something now, before CPS takes YOUR children.
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Really? | 5:54 a.m. June 4, 2008
How is it that there are 5 of the 'top 10' stories on the FLDS? Can we just write one every third day and lump all these together so we can discuss something else? ENOUGH ALREADY!!!
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David | 6:20 a.m. June 4, 2008
This article brought tears to my eyes. It is good to read that there are some people that don't based their beliefs about the FLDS on rumor and gossip, but as the courts did, on evidence. Had the first court simply followed the rule of law, this would never have happened. CPS was well within its rights to have asked the men to leave the ranch, but they didn't. There were many options, but CPS chose the one that would be most dangerous for the families and especially the children to the tune of $7 million. The local government actually suggested that the FLDS pay, but that idea was shut down because of the 2 higher court rulings.

I hope and pray that no FLDS children or any other children within CPS were/are abused or molested while incarcerated, but statistically I know otherwise especially given the recent "guardian" that was charged.
Hopefully these united families may go to there temporary homes and begin healing and then hopefully return home to the ranch. Unfortunately it seems that an entirely new generation has been taught to hate us and our overbearing ways. This wasn't Short Creek, this was much worse.
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Bot | 6:39 a.m. June 4, 2008
It appears there may be one girl who conceived prior to age 16. That is the only charge that might stick. Was it worth uprooting 450 children and their parents to find those one or two girls? There's no welfare fraud (check the county records). They paid more than their share of real estate tax, and the FLDS home-school their children.

Tell me where the state's interests are being compromised. Prosecute the men who fathered children from girls 15 or less, and let the others return to the ranch where the children were loved, educated, and had extended family relationships.

If the state really wants to stop child abuse, the CPS should concentrate on inner-city Dallas or Houston girls who conceived at age 15 or less. Jail the twenty-something men who impregnated them and attach their wages so the welfare queens can be self-supporting (like the FLDS). Then prosecute the Planned Parenthood offices which refuse to identify the adult fathers who impregnate girls 15 or less. Those offices should be closed down.
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betty | 6:47 a.m. June 4, 2008
something none of the family stories coming out are telling us, which wife is this??? legal wife or whatever they call the "others"
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zxcvbnm | 7:11 a.m. June 4, 2008

Texas can start with an apology and I have no doubt that it will be accepted.
Promise these children that this will never happen again in Texas and that their children can grow up with no fear of tanks and troops.
These gracious people have more Christian forgiveness and love in their hearts that their tormentors have in their book of CPS tricks.
How many times will we hear "good faith" and "just doing our job" used as an excuse in the next few months.
Leave these people alone to worship their God in peace.

Shame on Texas

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Phantom Panther | 7:15 a.m. June 4, 2008
I hope the FDLS leaders are serious when they say they are going to stop marrying off underage girls. They also need to allow some freedom in the group. Leadership needn't be dictatorship. Had Warren Jeffs shown leadership and not been marrying off underage girls it's likely none of this would have happened. Perhaps Jeffs' prison time and the raid will wake this group up.
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Brooke | 7:21 a.m. June 4, 2008
Thank Goodness for Lawyers and the Law. Otherwise these children would still be stolen by Texans Bible Thumpers. (I mean kidnappers)
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God bless | 7:25 a.m. June 4, 2008
God Bless you Edson Jessop and all atYFZ ranch and all the wonderful lawyers!
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Hum? | 7:53 a.m. June 4, 2008
"Edson tried to console the boys" - Earlier reports said FLDS boys are shunned


"interview took place on the grass in front of the YFZ school building" - Ealier reports implied the kids were ignorant and uneducated.


"excited to be back in her mother's arms" - Sound like an abused child?


I think Texas officials went in with "guns blazing" only to realize they look real stupid. Now they are trying to justify their actions by building a case against the FLDS. At what point does Texas realize they are doing more harm then good?

I think we need a good old-fashioned independent investigation by the Feds to see what is really going on. The PR story we get doesn't seem to add up.

Mark my words. When the truth comes out, Texas officials will scurry away like rats from a sinking ship.

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To "Really?" | 8:38 a.m. June 4, 2008
What's the matter? Are you sick of hearing about people's constitutional rights being violated? I didn't realize there was a time-frame in which in could be discussed. Maybe you ought to consider reading a good novel instead of reading the paper and watching the news. The majority of the rest of us, however, would like to see this to the end.
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Payment Time | 8:41 a.m. June 4, 2008
Re: Really?

How cruel... these lives are in shatters and you are more worried about Obama who didn't even stand up for Consitutional Rights during this mess or even said anything (McCain not excluded).. If you can't see how important this is, you are sadly a heartless person. I hope we see more stories on how Texas screwed up these children..

I hope Texas CPS gets overhauled and Walthers impeached..

There is a gopetition Walther (google it) to sign the petition.


Re: Barthleby
This is not over.. CPS will still be reaking havoc for awhile yet, then Texas will take their turn--they are already drafting new laws in Janurary to split them up and persecute them.. then the Feds will have their turn.. I hope the media keeps up with this.

CPS can do this to anyone, anytime..all on an anynomous phone call (violation of the right to face your accuser)... they can shred your life up and say sorry... CPS is still propaganaing concerning the return of the children.
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p-t-max | 8:43 a.m. June 4, 2008
I think we need to hear about these people. Don't want to read or hear about them? Turn the page, change the channel, or look the other way, like the people of Texas did while their rights were trampled and the Texas constitution was shredded.

So the boys are angry and defiant. Good for them, they have a right to be. I hope some day their hearts can heal.
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Bruce | 8:48 a.m. June 4, 2008
Thank you DN for continuing to post FLDS updates. The MSM flooded the airwaves with sensationalism for the first few weeks and then, when the truth came out about the government atrocities, you hardly heard anything.
A great injustice has been done to these families and we won't turn our backs on them.
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Sweet Family | 8:50 a.m. June 4, 2008
My first reaction looking at the pictures in this story of this family, is they are just sweet--and isn't it a PITY that they aren't the "complete" family. If it was just them, as they are pictured--without some other poor woman (or women) and other poor children lurking about somewhere.
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To Betty | 9:07 a.m. June 4, 2008
I really prefer the FLDS people taking multiple wives and taking care of them than what I see out on the streets, in the offices, in the malls....it goes on and on. There are bad people, women and men, who run around having affairs, or just do what feels good for the moment. The FLDS care about their families. They take care of their families. They made their city a good place. I don't think that you can say they were a burden on our society like many people are today, like all of Hollywood. Maybe their way isn't our way. Maybe you and I would never marry a man who has three wives, but I would rather see someone with three wives who cares for them and helps them to be happy and have good self images, who lets them become the women they want to be, than I would like to see a scummy guy walking around eyeballing every pretty skirt that exists. I know and see plenty of those scuzzy guys. I'm sure you do too.
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Anonymous | 9:14 a.m. June 4, 2008
I agree that if Warren Jeffs had abided by the legality of under age girls being inpregnated we would have never had a problem with this religious group. I watched "Nancy Grace" exaggerate the truth over and over, especially about these women being on welfare and abusing the government by using funds illegally. So, now I wonder did Warren Jeff's even marry 12 and 13 year old girls. When will the Media be chastised for their emblellishment of the truth. This is just one of the many reasons I don't watch the news. "Nancy Grace" needs to publically apologize for her statements, but fat chance that will ever happen. If I had the opportunity, I would gladly join this group of people. I have my own source of income, so I do not need a lifestyle to be taken care of, only a loving place to reside. The women are soft spoken and articulate, they are not mice. I wish there was a place where we could learn more about the FLDS lifestyle. I am so pleased that the children are back with their parents. But where were the Fathers during this crisis? Why were they not supporting their wives?
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Southern Utah Resident | 10:03 a.m. June 4, 2008
These young girls deserve better than this!
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Denise | 10:20 a.m. June 4, 2008
Re: Anonymous

The men were supporting their wives, the media just didn't want to show it.
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David S. | 10:21 a.m. June 4, 2008
God bless and heal this family.
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