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FLDS trust faces court hearing in Texas

Wisan has a great job. He's well-paid, he gets to right a wrong and nobody is attacking him.

He is doing right by the FLDS members.

Wisan might benefit by looking at the trust funds managed by the Amish. The Amish are a small religious group that do not collect welfare or social security. Instead, they contribute to a general fund and the money goes to help Amish in need.

The FLDS leadership is not at the present time capable of managing a fund on its own, but it is possible that Wisan could set up a fund in such a way that he or someone else could manage or audit a fund to benefit the impoverished FLDS families. This might be a good use of the money and it might slow the collection of public benefits. Maybe I'm dreaming.

Given what has gone on as of late, it might be best to have lawyers for the sex abuse victims drain the entire fund and eliminate a source of power for FLDS leaders.

Yes give it to him so he can turn it back into a Desert like he did, and is doing to Hildale/Colorado City. have any of you seen the Before and After Wisan of Colorado city? it is awesome,what was green and thriving growing community is now a sand covered cluster of abandon buildings.

"He is doing right by the FLDS members." you must not Know any FLDS members.

Although the Amish may have a fund for relief efforts among themselves, and they certainly do band together to help whenever there is need, all the Amish friends we had in PA owned their own property, had their own farms or family-owned businesses. Their money-making operations were not communally owned or controlled by the "leaders." Interestingly, the young people turned their incomes over to their parents until they married, at which time, families helped each young couple get a start. The farms generally were inherited by the youngest son, whose duty it was to care for the parents in their old ages.
Very kind and has worked well for generations. The price of farm land has made it difficult for the young men to be given a start of land and is one reason why many Amish have left central PA for other states and many of them have started various businesses in keeping with their beliefs.
But, to my knowledge, they have always controlled their own property, unlike the FLDS, who are at the mercy of the leaders' whims to even have a home.

"unlike the FLDS, who are at the mercy of the leaders' whims to even have a home."

Interesting that you would say this, knowing the FLDS I can tell you that they are much, much more at the whim of Bruce Wisan and his cronies, who seek to use state to govern church and have usurped an elected position on that trust.

He has hurt the FLDS families and people much more than Jeffs has, and the worst part is the people whom he "rules over" didn't put him, there, don't want him there and we need to keep our nose out and let them choose who governs their property...
If there is anything we learned by the Texas Polygamy Ranch Disaster it's that these people are able to govern themselves and we went in to rescue people who don't want to be rescued. Maybe the allegations of "mismanaging" the trust were from a prank call too. Nothing has been proven in court and until it is I say leave them alone and let them choose for themselves who they want to follow.

RE: Anonymous.... Well said and amen.

I am tired of hearing about the grisly FLDS polygamist men. Tired of the whole thing!

I don't know how the trust is being managed or mis-managed, but I do feel strongly the danger when religious leaders can remove someone from his home as part of an excommunication process. While I respect the attempt to live a "United Order", there has always been, and always will be, the temptation to use church power over people economically--sometimes unrighteously--and the feeling by the people that they must be unquestionably obedient in order to keep their livelihood. Control and fear are part of Satan's plan, not Heavenly Father's.
I also know of FLDS businessmen who have formed monopolies in certain types of business and were able to band together and threaten and drive competitors out of business. That is NOT righteous behavior.
Assets owned and produced by the labor of FLDS people should not be diverted to give certain favored leaders benefits not available to all the members.

The many allegations of mismanagement are not rumors, rather they're from reports of what Wisan uncovered during the ongoing audit of the trust's funds. Property, equipment and cash were diverted somewhere or to someone; he's seeing to it those people in the trust'll have something when the whole thing collapses; and it probably will.
The disapperance of many people from the UT/AZ towns are probably those that went to TX. The 800-1000 people in that compound all had to come from somewhere and AZ is the most likely place. Plus, there's a place in Canada. How many moved there?
The whole Texas thing is based solely upon abuse and sexual assault of childeren. Non-religious laws prevent multiple marriage. A celestial marriage is nothing more than church sanctioned sex. If that "marriage" arranges sex with underage children is a conspiratorial violation of the law.
Groups of this nature are known to pick up and move when the legal climate begins to get too warm.

I can only please one person a day, today is not your day,(Wisen) tomorrow doesn't look good either.
I think he already had his day when the owners agreements were signed.
All building has died in UT/AZ twin cities. Property taxes have doubled, and now a agreement that says a trustee can come into your home when ever he fills like it. He wants water; there is none. he wants them to pay him to sue the cities.
How would you feel if someone stole your closed gate community and started moving people you didn't like into it? I would leave too. To: to anonymous, Are you against monopolies and Businesses having the right to decide what to do with their own money or just the FLDS? Or is it that you think that the profits of a busines should be distributed to the intire town. Or if they give anyone money they should give some to everyone equaly? OR only the FLDS have to distribute their money evenly through town and everyone else is exempt?
Unfortunatly the people asked to leave their homes signed an AGREEMENT to only live on the land if they were FLDS.