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FLDS members fear possibility of a second raid

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Which way, America? | 1:32 a.m. May 22, 2008
If I were a polygamist sect, I would base everything in California. They are moving away from 'traditional' marriage and would not prosecute. Free love and communes are accepted.

The US needs to decide which way it wants to go - you can't prosecute one form of non-traditional marriage while legalizing another. How and where do you draw the line?
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awesomeron | 1:50 a.m. May 22, 2008
DO some people not realize that these people BROKEN THE LAW. Nothing to fear except the fear of getting cought breaking the law some more. If kids where moved onto the Ranch for any reason to include provide additional Wifes to the males on the compound, they are in an unsafe enviroment and need to be removed. If they are there for any reason they need to be removed. Get a Warrent go back in and see what you can find. Bring the Dogs and the Half Track. If you find underaged people remove them.
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SJ Bobkins | 4:13 a.m. May 22, 2008
I hope Parker is getting paid a huge fee by the polygamist's because it's likely he will never be asked to do any work outside this group. To condone teen marriage, the taking away families from men while they are dismissed from the compound, and the disposal of the majority of the young boys, is more than any attorneys I know would be willing to do.
He is the fulfillment of all the lawyer jokes.
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Thomas | 4:19 a.m. May 22, 2008
Unlike you awesome, i am disturbed by the lack of due process in this case. The parents have been given no chance to refute the charges against them.
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avengeance | 4:45 a.m. May 22, 2008
Do some people not realize that these people ARE CITIZENS WITH RIGHTS? Everything to fear from a civil agency with police powers, who can make blanket accusations against your entire neighborhood, and force you to prove yourself innocent after convicting you and sentencing you of "child abuse" and forcing you to sign their "agreements" to get your children back. If there are any children there, they do need to be removed- before the government gets them!
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Angry in New Hampshire | 5:18 a.m. May 22, 2008
What????

Now this is the last straw! Did you see that quote?: "Because they are a civil agency, officials noted they may not need a warrant to conduct a civil investigation."

If the governmental agencies reach they point that they feel that they do not need a warrant... then they will have crossed a line that the constitution is not just threatened, but euthanized. I have nothing to do with the FLDS, but would be willing to take up arms to protect their civil liberties (or anyone else�s) if that line is crossed.

Don't get me wrong -- I am not a whacko militia type, but kidnapping of children on unproven rumor, "genocide" (as defined by U.N. resolution), and now the discussion of warrantless searches... The country and constitution I love are crumbling, and I think that all Americans should -- must! -- start considering options. If constitutional order cannot be restored by our legitimate government, it is time to consider the possibility our right to revolt.

Wake up! The constitution is being trampled!
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Judy | 5:22 a.m. May 22, 2008
To Which way america--This is not about traditional marriage. THis is about child abuse, which California prosecutes aggressively. Very aggressively.
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Gene Davis | 5:28 a.m. May 22, 2008
Any person living in any country must follow or or obey the law of the land. I moved to the Philippines from the U.S. And I must obey the laws here even if I don't agree with all of them.Same holds true for the FLDS. The U.S is a free country.But no one is free to break the law of the land.
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? | 6:02 a.m. May 22, 2008
re: awesomeron
You say that these people have broken the law, what law? The legal age to marry in Texas is 16. The girls they thought were minors they now say are adults. What law has been broken to justify what the State has done? Where are the charges? It's been almost 2 months now. No one has been charges with a crime. You say these people BROKE THE LAW, I ask what law?
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Dave | 6:11 a.m. May 22, 2008
The problem is they are only enforcing the law against one particular religion. If everyone under 16 that showed up at an abortion clinic where put in protective custody and the father tracxked down and jailed it would be a different matter.
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Re: Angry... | 7:00 a.m. May 22, 2008
in New Hampshire

or would that be St. George?

Still on the "genocide" campaign I see.

Despite the hyperbole, this is not genocide or kidnapping, but an investigation of child abuse, which is taught and practiced by the FLDS in the form of forced, underage marriages.
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Hey Dave | 7:12 a.m. May 22, 2008
They are enforcing the law against polygamists and child abusers who try to get away with it under the guise of religion, the worst excuse there is. I daresay they should be charged also with running some sort of illegal prison camp. Go texas
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yeah!! | 7:15 a.m. May 22, 2008
This will only make Greg Abbott, att. general of Texas, more determined to get these criminals behind bars. They should have played along......BIG mistake!!! I will probebly drive up there when they begin to cuff the mom and dads and provide snacks and water to the law officials, and applaud them for doing an outstanding job, in breaking up this child sex slave ring!!!!
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free the children | 7:18 a.m. May 22, 2008
I agree with Angry in New Hampshire! We got to start protecting ourselves and families..... Their are no more RIGHTS IN THIS COUNTRY .. THIS CASE HAS SHOWED THAT .. I think that Texas want these children for their own purpose-- must be alot of people in Texas that can't have kids and this may be a way to get them ... No one is safe at this point ! We all need to protect our rights America !! Free the children !!! Free the children!!!
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Comparing this to | 7:24 a.m. May 22, 2008
your everyday teenager that fools around with their boyfriend and gets pregnant and an FLDS girl is comparing apples to oranges.

The FLDS are not following the laws of the land. Period. Just wait when more information gets out - child traffiking, abuse, polygamy, ect. It won't be pretty for the FLDS. They should obey the laws of the lands like the rest of us.
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Wakeup Dave | 7:38 a.m. May 22, 2008
"The problem is they are only enforcing the law against one particular religion."

Did you FLDS ever consider that they're only enforcing the law against one particular religion, because only one particular religion has institutionalized child abuse in the form of forced underaged marriages of young girls and the indoctrination of young boys to become future abusers?
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Worried for our country | 7:43 a.m. May 22, 2008
Exactly, Dave! Why aren't we worried about the millions of teenage mothers giving birth and those seeking abortions? Why aren't we finding their perpetrators? Oh, yeah, they aren't concerned with finding the perps, just jailing the victims. Let's round up all the teen pregnant girls, lock them up and if they already have children, take them away. When they give birth, take the newborn too and give them a "safe" foster home because obviously they are likely to be groomed to become a teen mom themselves, right? Where is their role model to do something different - if grandma helps raise the child, isn't the child also likely to be a teen mom?

Or perhaps they have "gay" mothers or dads. Take them away too because they might be influenced that direction. If you don't like their religion, round them all up as a group without due process and warrants. Assume the worst of them all. This is America.... but as was said above, go to California or Massachusetts where anything goes. You can't prosecute someone with two wives if it's also OK to have other non-traditional marriage.

Next they may seek everyone who is not blonde, blue eyed, white.
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Ray | 7:45 a.m. May 22, 2008
'The judge hearing the case objected, saying [actual facts are] not relevant'

How can a judge say clearing up a lie is not relevant? The truth does not matter to this judge!! Unbelievable!! Well, I believe it, I just wish it wasn't so.

Shut down this travesty and send those kids home!
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Must Be Related | 7:54 a.m. May 22, 2008
Angry in New Hampshire = free the children

It's nice that you agree with yourself (same exact writing style), but the rights of the children to be protected from being abused are more important to truly caring people than the rights of the parents to abuse their children.
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Live and let live | 7:57 a.m. May 22, 2008
When will CPS leave these people alone and return the children.
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