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Former Resident | 12:21 a.m. May 22, 2008
Well we can always count on a Provoite to do the Ostrich impersonation.
Here's a newsflash: The guy in charge gets the blame. Perhaps if he would
be a little more collaborative rather than assuming (like you) that he is always
right, there might actually be somehting positive happening. Oh, and when the
head guy has less than a 30% approval rating it may just be that he should get
all the blame. And as to legislation, if the guy sitting at 1600 Pennslyvania
Ave says "no" to everything that comes his way just because it
wasn't his idea, then he gets another mark in the blame column. I could go
on but that will be another day.
Gus Talwynd | 1:09 a.m. May 22, 2008
Perhaps not every problem, but certainly every major problem! There is no need
to repeat the litany of egregious mistakes made by the Bush/Cheney
administration, but Iraq will be his legacy as the worst president of modern
times. The list is long and has been chronicled for all to see. Others,
I'm sure, will specify the multitude of problems for which Bush is to blame
in making American the mess that it is today.
As for the Democratic Congress, it is necessary for the writer to remember that there is not a veto-proof majority that can get every piece of legislation made into law. This comment about a impotent Congress is absolutely absurd when there exists a concerted effort by Republicans to neutralize any progressive legislation that may be brought forward.
Nonetheless, the few remaining Bush/Cheney faithful will continue to see this administration through the rose-colored prisms that characterize the inverted world that is the Bush/Cheney years.
Also, the presumptive Republican candidate for president is attempting to distance himself from President Bush because he doesn't want to be tainted by the negatives that surround the current occupant of the White House.
As for the Democratic Congress, it is necessary for the writer to remember that there is not a veto-proof majority that can get every piece of legislation made into law. This comment about a impotent Congress is absolutely absurd when there exists a concerted effort by Republicans to neutralize any progressive legislation that may be brought forward.
Nonetheless, the few remaining Bush/Cheney faithful will continue to see this administration through the rose-colored prisms that characterize the inverted world that is the Bush/Cheney years.
Also, the presumptive Republican candidate for president is attempting to distance himself from President Bush because he doesn't want to be tainted by the negatives that surround the current occupant of the White House.
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Oh for the love | 6:07 a.m. May 22, 2008
It was sarcasm! The letter to the editor this writer is referring to was
complete sarcasm.
Steve D | 6:24 a.m. May 22, 2008
You people are totaly missing the point of Mr. Jones letter. He is replying to
an earlier letter stating that Bush gets a pass from the media. Jones is
correct, nothing could be further from the truth.
Richard | 6:41 a.m. May 22, 2008
This is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. It seems to me that
you're the one suffering from myopia. Maybe you ought to do some studying
of the issues yourself. By the way, there's not a dimes worth of
difference between either parties........they're both taking us down the
primerose path to self destruction.
jokes on all of you | 7:20 a.m. May 22, 2008
except oh for the love - the letter referenced was being sarcastic. Guess that
went right over this writer's head and a few others posted here
rdub | 7:20 a.m. May 22, 2008
Lets see... Peolsi and her group promised to cut and run when she entered
office, refuses to do anything substantial to ease gas problems. Her answer is
to tax big oil which we end up paying at the pump, so who gets hurt, not big
oil. Remember Hillary care? She is in favor of that disaster. Thank goodness
President Bush's vetos cannot be over-ridden.
wrz to Jeffery @ 12:15 | 7:25 a.m. May 22, 2008
"It's hard to get anything productive done when Bush vetoes or
threatens to veto and progressive legislation"
Vetoes: Clinton - 37
G.W. Bush - 8
"...or stands in Israel and calls those who would rather talk peace than start wars as "appeasers..."
He meant, "you don't negotiate with enemies threatening to wipe Israel off the map without preconditions such as, 'the h*ll you will.'"
"...invades sovereign nations over lies..."
Did you mean Clinton, who invaded Kosovo and attacked the sovereign nation of Serbia?
"...fails to catch or pursue Osama bin Laden..."
Did you mean Clinton, who bombed an aspirin factory and empty tents in the desert in his failed pursuit of Osama?
"...tortures detainees..."
To get valuable intelligence which likely as not saved your buttox.
"...detains people without trials..."
You don't give enemy combatants trials in the US. They're lucky not to have been shot on the battlefield.
"...strips Americans of their rights..."
You mean their right to plan attacks on America?
"...spies on American citizens without warrants..."
Did you mean Texas CPS who not only spied on FLDS but rounded up all the children in all households with a single piece of paper?
Vetoes: Clinton - 37
G.W. Bush - 8
"...or stands in Israel and calls those who would rather talk peace than start wars as "appeasers..."
He meant, "you don't negotiate with enemies threatening to wipe Israel off the map without preconditions such as, 'the h*ll you will.'"
"...invades sovereign nations over lies..."
Did you mean Clinton, who invaded Kosovo and attacked the sovereign nation of Serbia?
"...fails to catch or pursue Osama bin Laden..."
Did you mean Clinton, who bombed an aspirin factory and empty tents in the desert in his failed pursuit of Osama?
"...tortures detainees..."
To get valuable intelligence which likely as not saved your buttox.
"...detains people without trials..."
You don't give enemy combatants trials in the US. They're lucky not to have been shot on the battlefield.
"...strips Americans of their rights..."
You mean their right to plan attacks on America?
"...spies on American citizens without warrants..."
Did you mean Texas CPS who not only spied on FLDS but rounded up all the children in all households with a single piece of paper?
credit where credit is due | 7:34 a.m. May 22, 2008
The fish always stinks the worst at the head.
DBG | 7:38 a.m. May 22, 2008
Oh please! I'm a republican and I blame Bush! The writer failed to comment
that Bush had a REPUBLICAN congress for much of his term that caused all this
problem, with their "rubber stamping" action.
Gus correctly pointed out while Congress now has a democratic majority, it's a slim majority and not veto-proof. Thus Bush gets his way until he slides out of office.
Gus correctly pointed out while Congress now has a democratic majority, it's a slim majority and not veto-proof. Thus Bush gets his way until he slides out of office.
Lionheart | 7:45 a.m. May 22, 2008
To Gus: Yes, there is a need to list your litany, because each would be
challenged and a list of accomplishments would be presented. Making global
statements and asserting they are true doesn't work for me. I don't
agree with all of Bush's policies and I have a couple of friends to the
right of me taht can't stand him. For many, perception is truth. Not for
me. There is no recession, (my major-economics) there is virtually no
unemployment, (attrition and turnover is always around 5%) 100% employment is
impossible, unless you have a slave society, and we have not been attacked on
our soil, the dollar is down, thus bringing us to a more realistic global
trading situation, the ambition of various dictators in the middle east are on
hold, I could on, but of course, there's no reason to make an actual list.
Gas prices set by market | 7:57 a.m. May 22, 2008
Actually, we could tax oil without much concern about "higher costs"
at the pump -- gas is set by world commodity markets, so oil companies are
really "price takers" rather than "price setters" as implied
by "rdub" above. Thus, even if we eliminated the national tax on gas,
gas prices won't change and oil companies would simply take what was going
to pay for roads for themselves. Oil is a commodity, so its price is less
controlled by companies than people may think. All the subsidies we give oil
companies don't seem to be increasing supply, unlike subsidies for wind and
renewables (that are booming in development). I wonder if Congress sees where
the best bang for their subsidy buck is!
DBG | 8:09 a.m. May 22, 2008
@wrz-You failed to mention that while Bush only had 8 vetoes (or whatever the
real number is), he had a congress rubber stamping his policies. Clinton
didn't have a Democratic Congress, at the beginning of his term he did but
soon became Republican and therefore, had a hard time doing anything. It
wasn't a majority either. Your numbers mean nothing.
Jeffrey | 8:16 a.m. May 22, 2008
wrz: you really need to get over your Clinton obsession. HE IS NOT THE PRESIDENT
ANYMORE! And just because he was a self-serving louse of a President, which I
agree with, does not excuse the far worse actions of Bush.
But just to refute your comments:
-He meant, "you don't negotiate with enemies threatening to wipe Israel off the map without preconditions such as, 'the h*ll you will.'"-
Why? Why do we have to constantly hold Israel's hand? If they are scared of being "wiped out" then perhaps they should do something about it other than running to us.
-To get valuable intelligence which likely as not saved your buttox.-
I would rather die than support the descent of America to the terrorists' level, where we cease to be any different from them.
-You mean their right to plan attacks on America?-
You mean their right to free speech? Their right to be protected from unwarranted searches and seizures?
It's sad you've been taken in and willingly give up your rights' due to fear-mongering.
Many of us who are against Bush also dislike many Democrats. The defense of freedom from tyranny is not a partisan issue!
But just to refute your comments:
-He meant, "you don't negotiate with enemies threatening to wipe Israel off the map without preconditions such as, 'the h*ll you will.'"-
Why? Why do we have to constantly hold Israel's hand? If they are scared of being "wiped out" then perhaps they should do something about it other than running to us.
-To get valuable intelligence which likely as not saved your buttox.-
I would rather die than support the descent of America to the terrorists' level, where we cease to be any different from them.
-You mean their right to plan attacks on America?-
You mean their right to free speech? Their right to be protected from unwarranted searches and seizures?
It's sad you've been taken in and willingly give up your rights' due to fear-mongering.
Many of us who are against Bush also dislike many Democrats. The defense of freedom from tyranny is not a partisan issue!
Ernest T. Bass | 8:30 a.m. May 22, 2008
Someone needs to step up and place blame.
Republicans are in denial when they support him.
He's failed on every level.
Republicans are in denial when they support him.
He's failed on every level.
less is more | 8:34 a.m. May 22, 2008
wrz gave quite a list for us to contemplate didn't he? (as if more is
more)
Reminds me of the saying: "You can always tell the liar by the length of his tale."
When people panic or really have nothing to say, they tend to go on, and on, and on, ...
Reminds me of the saying: "You can always tell the liar by the length of his tale."
When people panic or really have nothing to say, they tend to go on, and on, and on, ...
DBG | 8:34 a.m. May 22, 2008
@gas price-Not exactly. Bush'es policies has tanked the value of the dollar
which has a huge impact up on our ability to import oil. The value of oil is
based upon the USD not world markets.
Mustangs | 8:35 a.m. May 22, 2008
During the first 10 months of Democratic control of the Congress, the
Rebublicans filibustered or threatened to filibuster legislation more times than
during any 2 years in the existence of our Rebublic -- and the Rebpublicans
called the Democrats "obstructionists" for objecting to 3 out of over
100 judge appointments. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!
Mustangs is a Gelding | 8:58 a.m. May 22, 2008
I'd like to see some evidence for your remarkable claim that
"Repbulicans filibustered or threatened to filibuser ligislation more times
than during any 2 years in the existence of our Republic"
Is that on a percentage basis? Republicans filibustered 2 of the 3 bills put forth for a 2/3 percentage. The highest in the last 2000 years.
Sounds like you just made that up. Provide some numbers.
Is that on a percentage basis? Republicans filibustered 2 of the 3 bills put forth for a 2/3 percentage. The highest in the last 2000 years.
Sounds like you just made that up. Provide some numbers.
Do as we tell you | 8:59 a.m. May 22, 2008
"...subject to Kings, Rulers, Presidents, Magistrates."
That just about sums it up for our Bush/Cheney supporters.
No questions require no answers.
That just about sums it up for our Bush/Cheney supporters.
No questions require no answers.
wrz | 9:24 a.m. May 22, 2008
"Reminds me of the saying: 'You can always tell the liar by the length
of his tale.'"
Reminds me of the saying: "You can always tell a Bush hater be the position of his tail - usually between his legs."
"When people ... have nothing to say, they tend to go on, and on, and on, ..."
And this: "When people have nothing to say they usually demonstrate it by having said nothing in their post."
Reminds me of the saying: "You can always tell a Bush hater be the position of his tail - usually between his legs."
"When people ... have nothing to say, they tend to go on, and on, and on, ..."
And this: "When people have nothing to say they usually demonstrate it by having said nothing in their post."
To DGB... | 9:26 a.m. May 22, 2008
Which way is it my friend? Pelosi and crowd screamed they'd go in with a
mandate and stop the war and make government more transparent. Now you liberals
are saying they can't get anything done because they don't have the
numbers to override a veto. So it's not really their fault they can't
get anything done and Pres. Bush has his way....
Then out of the other side of your mouth you say Clinton had a Democrat controlled Congress the first 2 years of his presidency and then the Repubs came into office, without a veto proof majority, but Clinton couldn't get anything done because of the Repub controlled Congress.
I'm sorry, but which way is it? Bush is too smart for your Dem controlled Congress and/or Clinton was too stupid with his Repub controlled Congress?
Oh how I love the doubletalk from liberals. Can't deal in facts so make up anything to try to make ourselves look good.
DGB, it's called checkmate!
Then out of the other side of your mouth you say Clinton had a Democrat controlled Congress the first 2 years of his presidency and then the Repubs came into office, without a veto proof majority, but Clinton couldn't get anything done because of the Repub controlled Congress.
I'm sorry, but which way is it? Bush is too smart for your Dem controlled Congress and/or Clinton was too stupid with his Repub controlled Congress?
Oh how I love the doubletalk from liberals. Can't deal in facts so make up anything to try to make ourselves look good.
DGB, it's called checkmate!
Anonymous | 9:31 a.m. May 22, 2008
Just do what you are told wrz and everything will be fine.
Anonymous | 9:32 a.m. May 22, 2008
The names George W. Bush and Dick Cheney will NOT be on the ballot in
November.
THERE REALLY IS A GOD!
THERE REALLY IS A GOD!
Oh Please | 9:38 a.m. May 22, 2008
Bush is not only the worst president ever but also a criminal. Torture, illegal
wiretaps, wholesale detention of people he won't put on trial because
he's afraid of the outcome. Corroon should order the sheriff to arrest him
when he comes to SLC next week--that'd surprise him.
wrz | 9:44 a.m. May 22, 2008
"wrz: you really need to get over your Clinton obsession. HE IS NOT THE
PRESIDENT ANYMORE!"
Nor will his wife be.
"Why? Why do we have to constantly hold Israel's hand? If they are scared of being "wiped out" then perhaps they should do something about it other than running to us."
To show we support democracy and freedom wherever we can find it.
"I would rather die than support the descent of America to the terrorists' level, where we cease to be any different from them."
Then die.
"You mean their right to free speech?"
Tell us how your free speech has been hampered by Bush.
"Their right to be protected from unwarranted searches and seizures?"
Democrats would like the CinC's hands completely tied against terrorists just because of their unrelenting (and unjustified) Bush hatred. Go figure.
"It's sad you've been taken in and willingly give up your rights' due to fear-mongering."
I don't fear mongers. I fear Muslim extremists who have vowed to cause America's (and Israel's) death.
Nor will his wife be.
"Why? Why do we have to constantly hold Israel's hand? If they are scared of being "wiped out" then perhaps they should do something about it other than running to us."
To show we support democracy and freedom wherever we can find it.
"I would rather die than support the descent of America to the terrorists' level, where we cease to be any different from them."
Then die.
"You mean their right to free speech?"
Tell us how your free speech has been hampered by Bush.
"Their right to be protected from unwarranted searches and seizures?"
Democrats would like the CinC's hands completely tied against terrorists just because of their unrelenting (and unjustified) Bush hatred. Go figure.
"It's sad you've been taken in and willingly give up your rights' due to fear-mongering."
I don't fear mongers. I fear Muslim extremists who have vowed to cause America's (and Israel's) death.
funny | 9:47 a.m. May 22, 2008
Oh please, take a vallium. Arrest him for what? What law has he broken? I'm
sorry, but just because you say something doesn't make it true.
BTW, would you and Anonymous stop watching Keith Olbermann? It really gets old when you spout his rhetoric each day as if it's something that you conjured up on your own....
BTW, would you and Anonymous stop watching Keith Olbermann? It really gets old when you spout his rhetoric each day as if it's something that you conjured up on your own....
YouGoFirst | 10:10 a.m. May 22, 2008
To help the conservatives understand liberals better, you should go to CNN and
search for "Why are conservatives happier than liberals?" by Jack
Cafferty.
Also, to all of the liberals, I want a clear answer to this question; What will Obamma do to encourage Americans to be more self reliant? (McCain doesn't have much of anything, but at least he isn't promoting as many new government programs.)
Also, to all of the liberals, I want a clear answer to this question; What will Obamma do to encourage Americans to be more self reliant? (McCain doesn't have much of anything, but at least he isn't promoting as many new government programs.)
DBG | 10:20 a.m. May 22, 2008
@TO DBG- I never stated which way it was. I only pointed out the falacy of your
numbers. They mean nothing. The only difference between the two is that Bush was
lucky to have a repub congress for most of his presidency, thus getting
everything his way. Clinton had to fight the repub congress most of his term. So
it's an inverse.
BTW- I'm not a libera. Nice try though.
BTW- I'm not a libera. Nice try though.
Samme | 10:21 a.m. May 22, 2008
Jack Cafferty's rhetoric is living proof that CNN is bias against the Bush
Administration.
Keith Olberman | 10:33 a.m. May 22, 2008
Keith Olberman is one of the few journalists with any integrity. Why don't
you try disputing his facts instead of your petty juvenile attacks.
wrz | 11:35 a.m. May 22, 2008
"Keith Olbermann is one of the few journalists with any integrity. Why
don't you try disputing his facts instead of your petty juvenile
attacks."
If he had any facts to dispute. Most of what he spews is vitriol against the Bush Administration. Which will likely continue when McCain gets in.
PS: Have you ever heard him rail on the Dem controlled Congress? For failing to seal the borders and get illegals to go home? Ans: No! Or, to authorize more oil/gas drilling in the US? Ans: No!
And by the way, I notice the Dem controlled Congress loves to grill oil execs for the price of crude while they sit on their hands and refuse to authorize US oil exploration expansion.
If he had any facts to dispute. Most of what he spews is vitriol against the Bush Administration. Which will likely continue when McCain gets in.
PS: Have you ever heard him rail on the Dem controlled Congress? For failing to seal the borders and get illegals to go home? Ans: No! Or, to authorize more oil/gas drilling in the US? Ans: No!
And by the way, I notice the Dem controlled Congress loves to grill oil execs for the price of crude while they sit on their hands and refuse to authorize US oil exploration expansion.
Anonymous | 12:06 p.m. May 22, 2008
Re: YouGoFirst -
Liberals know they are happy. Why wouldn't they be?
Reform, progress and the desire to serve their fellow man would make anybody happy.
Conservatives on the other hand, need a poll or commentator to tell them they are happy. How can they be when they refuse to do anything that resembles reform, progress and the desire to serve their fellow man?
Liberals know they are happy. Why wouldn't they be?
Reform, progress and the desire to serve their fellow man would make anybody happy.
Conservatives on the other hand, need a poll or commentator to tell them they are happy. How can they be when they refuse to do anything that resembles reform, progress and the desire to serve their fellow man?
What's your name | 12:29 p.m. May 22, 2008
Keith, I would think that you would actually know how to spell your name.
It's Keith Olbermann.
Olbermann has no integrity, none. He just spouts his drivel every night, making up stories and just plain lying to the 4 people who watch his show.
If you aren't aware, and I'm sure you aren't, the top brass at NBC is starting to take notice of the cheap shots he takes with nothing to support his views. Matthews even distanced himself from Olbermann; and that takes a lot for Matthews to say something.
So you just keep believing that Olbermann is your hero while the rest of us know the end of the story. Olbermann will go away just as fast as Obama came on the scene....
Integrity? Thanks for the laugh.
Olbermann has no integrity, none. He just spouts his drivel every night, making up stories and just plain lying to the 4 people who watch his show.
If you aren't aware, and I'm sure you aren't, the top brass at NBC is starting to take notice of the cheap shots he takes with nothing to support his views. Matthews even distanced himself from Olbermann; and that takes a lot for Matthews to say something.
So you just keep believing that Olbermann is your hero while the rest of us know the end of the story. Olbermann will go away just as fast as Obama came on the scene....
Integrity? Thanks for the laugh.
Your kind of guy | 12:31 p.m. May 22, 2008
It must be difficult to stomach having Bush, who mirrors the morally of must
Utahans bashed. When someone like Bush shares your values he has no faults.
Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy are to blame. Sure Clinton bought peace to Kosovo by ending genocide by Serbia. Americans are still dying there.
Any claims that Clinton could have stopped Ben Laden are questionable. When Clinton attacked terrorist camps in Afghanistan conservatives didn't support going to war against terrorism because they where blinded by hate.
Bush will be visiting Utah's most powerful leaders. You should greet him. After all, no other president has dome a better job of representing what you stand for.
Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy are to blame. Sure Clinton bought peace to Kosovo by ending genocide by Serbia. Americans are still dying there.
Any claims that Clinton could have stopped Ben Laden are questionable. When Clinton attacked terrorist camps in Afghanistan conservatives didn't support going to war against terrorism because they where blinded by hate.
Bush will be visiting Utah's most powerful leaders. You should greet him. After all, no other president has dome a better job of representing what you stand for.
Example of ??? | 12:42 p.m. May 22, 2008
Oh yes, Anonymous. You are the perfect example of a happy person. Have you
actually ever read your posts?
All that oozes from your posts is hate and more hate. Yes, I bet you are happy and fun loving. Based on your comments, I bet you have no friends. Who would want to be around you all day? no one...
Reform? progress? love for their fellow man? Oh yes, just look at the cities/states that have been under Democrat rule for awhile and let's see their progress and reform.
New Orleans? need I say any more?
Michigan? people are leaving in droves and the governor wants to increase taxes.
New Jersey/California/New York...going bankrupt quicker than one can say "universal healthcare".
There is no progress or reform from liberals unless you call higher taxes, more government-induced income redistribution, less personal responsibility progress and reform.
Sorry pal, but the hurricane already came in and you were left on the bus still in the parking lot sippin' coffee with Ray "Chocolate man" Nagin.
Name 1 success of a liberal claim to reform or progress. Just 1 will do...
All that oozes from your posts is hate and more hate. Yes, I bet you are happy and fun loving. Based on your comments, I bet you have no friends. Who would want to be around you all day? no one...
Reform? progress? love for their fellow man? Oh yes, just look at the cities/states that have been under Democrat rule for awhile and let's see their progress and reform.
New Orleans? need I say any more?
Michigan? people are leaving in droves and the governor wants to increase taxes.
New Jersey/California/New York...going bankrupt quicker than one can say "universal healthcare".
There is no progress or reform from liberals unless you call higher taxes, more government-induced income redistribution, less personal responsibility progress and reform.
Sorry pal, but the hurricane already came in and you were left on the bus still in the parking lot sippin' coffee with Ray "Chocolate man" Nagin.
Name 1 success of a liberal claim to reform or progress. Just 1 will do...
Anonymous | 1:04 p.m. May 22, 2008
Meanwhile, 72,000 people packed in to support Barack Obama this week. His
largest rally to date.
It tells me people are really watching and listening and I put watching first because it really tells a better story. Obama has the heart of the people and we can feel it.
It tells me people are really watching and listening and I put watching first because it really tells a better story. Obama has the heart of the people and we can feel it.
Gus Talwynd | 1:06 p.m. May 22, 2008
The Civil Rights Act of 1964.
One of many laws enacted that made America a better place. A true success in every sense of the word.
The Social Security of 1935
One of the greatest pieces of legislation to come out of the Great Depression.
The Clean Air Act of 1970
The Clean Water Act of 1972
Both came during a Republican administration, but are indicative of good policy that comes when Republican, Democrats, and Independents work together for the common good of the people.
The rancorous partisanship evident in this thread is blinding to cogent discussion. Perhaps the more rabid comments could use some more thought before being immortalized in these pages.
One of many laws enacted that made America a better place. A true success in every sense of the word.
The Social Security of 1935
One of the greatest pieces of legislation to come out of the Great Depression.
The Clean Air Act of 1970
The Clean Water Act of 1972
Both came during a Republican administration, but are indicative of good policy that comes when Republican, Democrats, and Independents work together for the common good of the people.
The rancorous partisanship evident in this thread is blinding to cogent discussion. Perhaps the more rabid comments could use some more thought before being immortalized in these pages.
a sad state of affairs | 1:31 p.m. May 22, 2008
It troubles me to read how thoroughly some conservatives have been
conditioned.
Whenever anything sounding remotely like change, progress or reform is presented to these angry and rabidly hostile types, it most always is "countered" (if you want to call Limbaughism that) with a single catch-all term:
LIBERAL!
I really don't think these poor souls can realize what they've morphed into and it saddens me.
Whenever anything sounding remotely like change, progress or reform is presented to these angry and rabidly hostile types, it most always is "countered" (if you want to call Limbaughism that) with a single catch-all term:
LIBERAL!
I really don't think these poor souls can realize what they've morphed into and it saddens me.
Lionheart | 1:47 p.m. May 22, 2008
To Gus: I don't think there is anything immortal about these pages.
Anonymous | 2:02 p.m. May 22, 2008
You should know Lionheart.
you'all | 2:04 p.m. May 22, 2008
talk like President Bush had some super majority to push through legislation.
If I remember right; he didn't. though, he did have many RINOS to contend
with, including John McCain and Jim Jeffords.
Give me a break with all your whining about this democrat congress not being able to pass anything besides gas.
Give me a break with all your whining about this democrat congress not being able to pass anything besides gas.
This is so funny | 2:34 p.m. May 22, 2008
Let me take time to personally thank all of your who have stayed the course and
voted republican. Nothing turns most Americans against the Republican Party than
electing republicans does. You give us Nixon, read my lips, no new taxes Bush
and now this.
Congress rating are at a all time low. The last three elections democrats have taken away republican held seats. Who don't voters like?
Eighteen percent of Americans disapprove of the president Rush and Hanity supported. This has ruined the GPO. You still listen to these two.
You remind of of the person who complains about car insurance who haven't figured out it's his driving record.
Congress rating are at a all time low. The last three elections democrats have taken away republican held seats. Who don't voters like?
Eighteen percent of Americans disapprove of the president Rush and Hanity supported. This has ruined the GPO. You still listen to these two.
You remind of of the person who complains about car insurance who haven't figured out it's his driving record.
Eli Tesecular PhD | 3:11 p.m. May 22, 2008
"Name 1 success of a liberal claim to reform or progress. Just 1 will
do..."
Example of???: You simply do not understand us progressives. We don't really care if our social programs don't work or that raising taxes actually hurts the economy and the poor. Having empathy for less fortunate people makes us feel so good about ourselves that we don't need programs to be effective. We are liberal! We are good people. In fact, we are better people than you.
Example of???: You simply do not understand us progressives. We don't really care if our social programs don't work or that raising taxes actually hurts the economy and the poor. Having empathy for less fortunate people makes us feel so good about ourselves that we don't need programs to be effective. We are liberal! We are good people. In fact, we are better people than you.
YouGoFirst | 3:20 p.m. May 22, 2008
To "Anonymous | 12:06 p.m." if liberals know they are happy, why is it
that the poll shows that they are not. The poll was done by CNN, which
typically is a liberal group, wouldn't they want to make liberals look
good?
Plus, you still can't answer the question "What will Obamma do to encourage Americans to be more self reliant?"
Plus, you still can't answer the question "What will Obamma do to encourage Americans to be more self reliant?"
gfunk | 3:25 p.m. May 22, 2008
Personally Im tired of both parties blaming each other for past administrations.
The truth is most people in this country are politically in the middle. Both
parties are to blame but the media loves to divide us with painting a picture of
two extremes. Thats why are political system fails.
Geeze | 3:35 p.m. May 22, 2008
To Anonymous 1:04, you said "Meanwhile, 72,000 people packed in to support
Barack Obama this week. His largest rally to date.
It tells me people are really watching and listening and I put watching first because it really tells a better story. Obama has the heart of the people and we can feel it. "
Too bad that there was a concert for the "Decemberists" a very popular Portland Band that was there at the same time. Did the people go to see Obama or the band?
Who are the real fools? Those who love Obama and are blind to his being phoney or those who choose to exercise their God Given Rights and choose another path that is unpopular with you narrow point of view?
It tells me people are really watching and listening and I put watching first because it really tells a better story. Obama has the heart of the people and we can feel it. "
Too bad that there was a concert for the "Decemberists" a very popular Portland Band that was there at the same time. Did the people go to see Obama or the band?
Who are the real fools? Those who love Obama and are blind to his being phoney or those who choose to exercise their God Given Rights and choose another path that is unpopular with you narrow point of view?
Anonymous | 3:36 p.m. May 22, 2008
Oh, Eli - you are such a cut-up!
You and I both know you secretly wish you could be more like and as happy as we liberals but forgot how.
Instead you get your daily anger fix listening to divisive diatribes on the Rush (champion of the conservatives) Limbaugh Show.
You and I both know you secretly wish you could be more like and as happy as we liberals but forgot how.
Instead you get your daily anger fix listening to divisive diatribes on the Rush (champion of the conservatives) Limbaugh Show.
Lionheart | 3:50 p.m. May 22, 2008
The reason liberals are not happy is because they are closet Puritans. Just
look at all their talk about work and sacrificing. It gives me the hives and
reminds me of old sourpuss Jimmy Carter. He was selling that sacrifice stuff
too.
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