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MormonTimes.com: Church fighting measles

Janet | 10:26 a.m. May 17, 2008

I'm grateful the LDS Church has somewhere good for their money to go. They should send more money to oranizations like this and stop funding raids on other religions that they don't agree with. There is proof so don't try to deny it. I'm disgusted with the "benevolent" LDS Church.
The FLDS would rather have the measles than to have you fund the people seeking to destroy our religion and life-style. You're great big helpers.

huh? | 11:12 a.m. May 17, 2008

Janet, What are you smoking? There is no proof because it's absolutely ridiculous? Stop trying to spread hate and fear and get over your own problems and resentment.

To Janet | 11:28 a.m. May 17, 2008

Wow even when the church does something good there are Mormon haters. We all know the FLDS are not very highly educated, especially the women, so I guess we have to forgive this ignorance somewhat. Unfortunately the church has nothing to do with funding the raids on the FLDS. It is unfortunate because I would contribute to be able to end the plague and perversion of polygamy.

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Proof ??? | 12:29 p.m. May 17, 2008

Janet says there is proof that the LDS Church funded the raid on the FLDS compound.

What is this proof? Well, there are LDS people who live in Texas. LDS people agree to obey the laws of the land, therefore LDS residents of Texas pay taxes. Taxes go to fund law enforcement, and law enforcement officials in Texas orchestrated the FLDS raid.

And since population numbers clearly show there is likely LDS Church members in Texas who are police officers and attorneys, there must have been a monetary connection between these police officers and attorneys, the LDS Church headquarters in Salt Lake City, and the raid on FLDS Church compound.

What more proof do you need?

Of course, everything I've just said is huge stretch of the facts, but since this is the common method used by Mormon bashers in attacking the LDS Church, I'm just speaking their language.

Don't be so NAIVE!!! | 4:08 p.m. May 17, 2008

I am the Humanitarian specialist in my ward, have been for 6 years, and I am NO Mormon basher. Nevertheless, though very proactive in my calling, I personally DO NOT donate money to the Church Humanitarian Fund.
I have found it distressing to discover where the money goes.
VERY!!!!
I think everyone knows it is not "normal" for children to die of measles. In my day we exposed our children to measles on purpose because we thought it made them stronger against other diseases. Measles made regular rounds in our Salt Lake City neighborhood and NO ONE DIED.
Something else is at the bottom of these high mortality rates, and IMO that lifestyle or hygiene or malnutrition issue,etc, needs to be addressed, or WHO and Red Cross will keep draining humanitarian money from well-meaning church members by the tens of thousands
every year.
I have had others tell me of other equally unintelligent use of humanitatian aid as well.

not NAIVE | 7:05 p.m. May 17, 2008

No doubt these developing nations need help with nutrition and sanitation. But even in the U.S. where we have good hygeine and nutrition 1 to 3 in 1000 people would die of measles. In developing nations, the number is closer to 10 times that. Others will suffer serious, sometimes permanent, complications from this disease.

While it's not "normal" to die of measles, it DOES happen. And just because you didn't know of anyone in your SLC neighborhood who died of the disease doesn't mean that measles cannot kill. Unfortunately close to 1 million people in developing nations die each year from this disease.

This is a cause I will gladly support.

Naive - maybe just uninformed | 7:21 p.m. May 17, 2008

I fully support the LDS Church Humanitarian Fund, and trust them to use the money for whatever and wherever they see a need. It may be drilling wells for remote villages, providing medical care in developing countries, contributing food and tarps and bedding for countries like China who have suffered a natural disaster. Let's not compare our local experiences with what others around the world have to deal with.

Janet | 7:26 p.m. May 17, 2008

I don't know of anyone who smokes around here but I do know of a Church that has sanctioned and supported the raid of 1953 and also the raid of 2008. Go to the web site FLDS Truth.org and read about it, if you have the capacity to understand. It will tell you about the raid of '53 anyway.

There are FLDS people who live in Texas. FLDS people agree to obey the laws of the land, therefore FLDS residents of Texas and other states pay taxes. Taxes go to fund law enforcement, and law enforcement officials in Texas (with the aid of the LDS Church) orchestrated the raid.

I live right here in Utah and my people pay more taxes than most. If a corrupt government wants to attack the FLDS and you assist them you are just as corrupt as they.

I am not a Mormon basher, I simply stated the facts. It doesn't change anything if you disagree or are uneducated.

Interested | 7:28 p.m. May 17, 2008

I think some of the comments against contributing to international organizations relates to their propensity to suffer from corruption and inefficiency. The Church has made a decision to participate in some of these anyway.

I suppose the argument is, better that some are helped in spite of corruption, gangs, etc., than few or none helped. The question is, what percentage of the money must get to the people before it is "good enough?" 50%? 20%? 10%? ...?

These are the same kinds of questions honest people tried to answer, for example, during the "Oil for Food" program for Iraq -- as well as other programs where the honest and Christian-caring had to work cheek-by-jowl with the rapacious and greedy. I personally don't know the answer.

Joke | 10:19 p.m. May 17, 2008

Janet - I just looked over the website you suggested. I didn't see one item saying anything about LDS Church leaders providing money to law enforcement so they can raid polygamy compounds.

Maybe you should read a website before you decide to state anymore "facts."

To Don't be so NAIVE!!! - 4:08 How do you know so much about the Humanitarian Aid program? And if what you say is true, how come the press hasn't jumped all over this? And spare me your, "The LDS Church has the media in its back pocket" bull crap.

Your claim sound like similar claims of people who think that child vaccine shots carry secret diseases, creating by the U.S. government, or that the government has dentists put secret tracking devices in people's teeth.

Robert | 11:06 p.m. May 17, 2008

Yeah nice humanitarian fund. I guess those in need will feel the effect of City Creek Center and all the other "business" venture that have nothing with us as a 'church' or providing for those who cannot provide for themselves. We should be ashamed.

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