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Long litany of legal disputes begins in FLDS raid

Hmmm... we are getting closer to the "courts" part of this.

Current and future abuse both occur within this sect. Let's say there is a sect that forces all 14 year-olds to play a game of Russian Roulette. Just the knowledge that at 14, your parents and community are going to force you to risk your life is cruel (not to mention unusual) punishment. In this sect, there isn't one bullet, but four bullets put into the gun and the result isn't death, but child rape and abandonment. How much fear is created when you see 14 year-old boys abandoned from their family and you see 14 year-old girls forced into marriage? How can you trust adults when they routinely abuse their children? What goes through a child's mind when his or her parents throw out all of the child's books, toys and pets as was ordered by Jeff's. Also, cults brainwash their members into believing things like they are specially chosen and that the outside world is bad. The children are forced to live in a world full of delusions and other psychological pathology. Without an understanding of cult mentality and the harm it causes children, this judge can't possibly rule in the best interest of the children.

Are you sure you got the age of the one year old infant right Texas? Remember the CPS agents claimed that all the birth certificates from the FLDS are forgeries? I don't thing the baby looks a day over 6 months, better let it stay with its mother awhile longer. Or are the documents only forgeries when it is convenient for Fraulein Meisner and her diabolical crew to imprison free Americans against their will? Just who is running that joke of a gong show down there anyhow? Anyone know? Or do they just make up the rules as they go along?

All are guilty until proven innocent!

The State can kidnap an adult and call it "custody".
The State can tear children from their families because the State thinks that, at some unknown time in the future, the girls might get married to an older man and that the boys might someday become an older man and marry a young girl.

Who protects the people from the abuse of power by the state?

This is the first time hearing of fathers.How many
fathers are there for 400 or so children.They only mention 3 or 4????

You would be locked up for this
Texas needs to pay plenty for this

I hope this young women sues the state of Texas! This just goes to show how far Texan authorities have gone in violating the rights of these people. Someone needs to be held responsible for holding these people against their will with absolutely no evidence of any crime!

It really is the lowest of the low to take that one year old baby. It's hard for me to remain civil when I think about some self-righteous CPS agency KIDNAPPING my baby! Let's call it what it is people:Prejudice and intolerance. Its time to WAKE UP AMERICA and see what's happening on your soil!

I am curious to know why these men are fighting so hard to get their children back... which is the right thing to do, as a parent of any children, but yet on the other hand...if Warren Jeffs told these men, he is taking their wife/wives and children away from them, giving them to another man, and they had to leave the compound and never return....would these men fight Jeffs just as hard?

The locals in Eldorado were worried about the FLDS taking over the county, so State Rep. Harvey Hilderbran sponsored a bill in 2005 that raised the legal age of consent to marry in Texas from 14 to 16. This was specifically targeted against the FLDS. When the FLDS moved to Texas the legal age was 14.


Note how the Texas Child Protective Service implies that 18 is the legal age. The CPS can�t be trusted and can�t be trusted with foster children. Two-thirds of their foster children are on mind-altering drugs. Wouldn�t the FLDS children be better off if they were returned to their mothers. Prosecute the men who fathered children with �wives� 15 or less and let the others alone.


I believe the diabolical outcome of Lawrence v Texas by the U.S. Supreme Court ensures that polygamy will be found legal � so polygamy cannot be legally outlawed

A lawsuit of lawyers will definitely make this all better.

Isn't it odd that a woman claims to be 22 and offers both a birth certificate and Texas drivers license as proof. Texas CPS believe that she is 15. Isn't it odd that Texas would offer a drivers license so readily to someone that looked 15? Now take into account that she may have been in Texas for 4 years. So, theoretically she could have had a license for that time frame if 22 since she would have been 18, but age 11 (15 - 4) for CPS. Wow, so a child of age 11 seemed old enough to a drivers license examiner....really?!!!

How ironic that they having the trial at the Tom Green courthouse.

texas will drag everthing in the courts and admission of fault is something you will never hear, or the mistakes they make no one will ever find out, the media will never have the guts to inform the pulbic, because the media are controled by the state of texas. Where is the ACLU, they are not talking too much, its a big bed, king king size.

I guess Texas CPS and the judge who won't accept proof of age for a woman who is expecting, could cut off their legs and count the rings?

Seriously, this really smacks of folks just wanting the babies. One day, they are a minor, the next they deliver their babies and the next they are 4 yrs older! How quaint. Texas needs to learn to count.

As I look at the picture of the wholesome casting call of little house on the prairie my thoughs are...
these people shouldn't be allowed to name children, let alone raise them.

Good hopefully the children will be returned to their parents.
The CPS really need to be held accountable.

All of this could have been avoided if at the original raid papers could have been produced to identify people. I do feel sorry for the women and children caught up in this confusion, but it was their choice to follow a misguided prophet and his outrageous demands that got them into this mess in the first place.Give it a little more time and this will be sorted out.It's TEMP custody, nothing is permanent yet.

Just one more patriarchal system gone bad.