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Schools reorganized in surprise move

WCSD | 1:20 p.m. April 30, 2008

I doubt you will see a reconfiguration of the Washington County Schools so that all four are at the 4A level. From what I have heard there are too many Snow Canyonites that are not willing to move to Dixie. This unwillingness, when coupled with promises made to Snow Canyon boosters by Washington County School District Officials, has proved to be a major sticking point to what appears to be the most logical reconfiguration scenario.

Utah County | 1:38 p.m. April 30, 2008

So what happens with Utah County schools and Uintah?

KG | 1:45 p.m. April 30, 2008

Let the fun begin! I can't wait to see what comes in this thread after folks have checked this one out. I think it is a great idea to make Hurricane and Desert Hills 4A, but I am sure there will be difference of opinion from some of the southerners. Personally, it makes more sense to try to maintain the St. George region as much as possible, even if it is a sacrifice for a couple years. I think it is about equally as fair as the previous draft, other than Uintah being in the UV South instead of North.
Not a bad final draft in my opinion.

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tstu | 1:53 p.m. April 30, 2008

Redrawing boundaries sounds like a good idea. Cottonwood busses kids allthe way from 40th west to 13th east. Send some of those kids to Tville or kearns...

Maybe shrink alta's boundaries too. Send some of those sandy kids to jordan, and shift their boundaries so that hillcrest has a decent population.

St. George | 2:27 p.m. April 30, 2008

Washington County School District needs to step up to the plate and make the tough decisons that they were elected and hired to do. Don't cave in to the Snow Canyon whiners. The S.C. whiners club will be the problem. Be tough and make it work. It will be better for all of the Washington county schools not to mention the southern Utah county schools and Uintah.

2008 or 2009 | 2:52 p.m. April 30, 2008

Are these proposed changes implemented this fall or a year from fall?

Skyline | 2:53 p.m. April 30, 2008

As an alum, a bit sad that my school is moving to 4A, nothing against them, but I loved being in the largest classification.

Skyline will re-emerge and then there will be discussions of who is the best school in the state!

Go Eagles.

Joyce J | 2:59 p.m. April 30, 2008

To 2008 or 2009 - the changes are effective for the 2009-2010 school year.

2009 | 2:59 p.m. April 30, 2008

They'll take effect in Aug 2009.

Please move BR | 2:59 p.m. April 30, 2008

Our #'s might not be high enough but lets bring that old region back with the northern schools. We can compete. We might not win region in everthing like we have lately but it will be alot better.

Where | 3:03 p.m. April 30, 2008

Where does Manti go? I thought they might move to 3A also

Answers | 3:06 p.m. April 30, 2008

The changes go into effect in time for the 2009-10 school year, according to an article in the Tribune. That article also explains the St. George situation and the reasons for putting Murray and West in that 5A region with Davis County schools a lot better.

1A School | 3:19 p.m. April 30, 2008

Duchesne should move to 2A because they have 166 students.
1A (0-149 students)
2A (150-449 students)

now they still in 1A

KG | 4:18 p.m. April 30, 2008

Regarding Manti, they are slated to move to 3A also. They weren't mentioned in this article, but on the uhsaa website, they are still in the 3A central region with Delta, North Sanpete, Juab, Richfield, and possibly Canyon View and Cedar.

bergstro | 5:01 p.m. April 30, 2008

It just doesn't seem right to have Skyline in 4A. The dwindling school-aged population in the area has really become apparent in the last few years - especially competing with schools like Jordan, Brighton, and Alta with nearly double the population. They will dominate.

4-A, 5-A | 5:56 p.m. April 30, 2008

I admit, this draft is much better. However, since most of Region 6 is moving into 5-A, wouldn't it be the most logical to keep those schools together in the same region?

Skyline I think honestly they will continue to do fine in 5-A, they have 1422, that's really not that far under 5-A. Keep them 5-A.

I still have my beefs about Granger and West moving 5-A. However, at the very least keep these schools in the same region.

Murray and West in Northern??? Please no! Most of the West kids aren't about to drive all the way to Davis or Viewmont to watch their teams get creamed in 5-A.

arc | 6:06 p.m. April 30, 2008

I think they need to take into account where the schools are, in addition to the numbers. For example, I think most of the schools in the Salt Lake Valley are close enough the same size to be in the same group. I don't have any problem with Highland and Skyline being in 4A with East, West, etc.

Eagle together brothers forever | 7:57 p.m. April 30, 2008

Im just glad that they are moving skyline to 5A after my senior year. We will dominate this year and then see if the board will move Skyline down to 4A where the differences in ability will be even more apparent

Skyline | 9:26 p.m. April 30, 2008

They should rearrange the boundries of skyline. I know most wouldn't say that but they have one of the smallest boundary area of any school. Not many young kids in that area. Skyline numbers are almost half of some other 5A schools.

dingo | 10:33 p.m. April 30, 2008

what a shock that these three schools West (1634), Cyprus (1659), Granger (1686),who are well over the 5A minimum will argue that they should be left in 4A. these schools could have 2500 kids each and would still claim how poor and picked on they are.

the BOT and the UHSAA are fools if they buy any part of their arguement. note to the boards it is not your job to protect the "competitiveness" of any school. it is not your job to protect a program, any program that thinks (despite being well over the number) it wont be a winner. your job is to enforce the rules and stop making exceptions. this is how you get into this mess every time you realign. make an exception. stop it. you have a chance to get it right for once if you dont blow it by listening to self serving and pious coaches/administration who are afraid to be held to the standard that they should be.

i think the 4A move for skyline is great and it brings back a traditional rival in olympus that the BOT and the UHSAA assassinated years ago in thier rush to do the insane.

Anonymous | 10:35 p.m. April 30, 2008

Judging by location, why not put Clearfield in the Northern region and move Layton into the region with Viewmont, Davis and Northridge. Then you keep the Layton-Nortridge rivalrie going.

PLEASE | 12:10 a.m. May 1, 2008

Fewer larger regions whenever possible. I hate the thought of six team regions and playing 5 games that matter and 5 games that don't.
(the neverending preseason games)

Shoot for 8 unless geography makes it too hard.

5A State | 9:50 a.m. May 1, 2008

I would like to see 2 teams automatically qualify for the state tourney from each of the five leagues. (10 teams are in)

With the other 6 spots, you use the rotation plan to allow one league per year to get 3 teams in automatically to state.

The other 5 spots are determined by doing a 3 vs. 4 crossover game between leagues. This ensures that the best teams are really going to the tourney. For example: League A has a year where 4 teams battle it out and beat each other up all year and all finish with winning records overall and in region. League B only has two teams that have winning records. When you allow League A's 4th place team to play League B's 3rd place team, you are giving both leagues a chance to put the better team in the state tourney.

Thoughts on this proposal?

anonymous | 11:09 a.m. May 1, 2008

washington school district needs to step up and make tne right decision. split the schools 4 ways and call it good. your not going to make everyone happy know matter how you do it. snow canyon should be happy if there not effected by the split. lets see how happy you are in 3 years when you have 1500 students and they move you to 5A. and the other so. schools are 4A. good luck in your travels not to mention the effect on the kids grades. Deal with it. draw the lines and get it over with.

Anonymous | 12:28 p.m. May 1, 2008

Why wouldn't Tooele Co. realign to make three 3A schools?

Anyone??

re: dingo | 4:57 p.m. May 1, 2008

granger and west have already spoken, they aren't speaking again. the salt lake school district is speaking on the 6th to ask schools currently in Region 6 being moved into 5A be kept in the same region.

It doesn't make sense to have Clearfield and Layton in a region with Granger and Cyprus. And it doesn't make sense to have West and Murray with Viewmont and Davis, move West and Murray into the central region!

my guess since skyline is speaking on Tuesday they are going to ask to remain 5A

I Agree that Tooele Co. Schools | 8:11 p.m. May 1, 2008

Three 3A schools in Tooele Co. would help them with travel cost. They could be in a region with Bear River, Ogden (who really needs to move down) & Ben Lomond.
North Region
B.R.
B.L.
Ogden
Grantsville
Tooele
Stansbury

East Region
P.C.
Wasatch
Morgan
J.D.
Judge

Central Region
Union
Carbon
Emery
Manti
North Sanpete

South Region
Richfield
Delta
Cedar
Canyon View
A.L.A.

Or something similiar to that!

Tooele Schools | 9:11 p.m. May 1, 2008

I would hope Tooele does not move down to 3a along with Stansbury! Tooele may not be doing so well in all the sports, but all the players are becoming becoming a lot better athletes. Tooele does not need to be sent down in a league with Ben Lomand, Ogden, Bear River. The travel is about the same time wise anyway. Tooele and Stansbury need to play up with better competition

Judge Memorial | 9:17 a.m. May 2, 2008

It seems that Judge got their wish to not go to Uintah but now they complain because they are in the same region as Juan Diego. What are they afraid of?

BE LOGICAL | 8:08 a.m. May 4, 2008

Move BR PC and wasatch up to 4A I mean less than 20 students now to be in the numbers anyway and they are growing like crayzey Watsatch is over 1000 now

Coach Re: Dingbat or Dingo | 9:00 a.m. May 6, 2008

Dingo, I challenge you to spend some time walking the hall of Granger , Cyprus, and West. Compare the generalities of the studentbodies there vs the studentbodies of Davis and Viewmont. Then you decide only then if they have the numbers to compete in sports like football and basketball

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