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Court refuses to hear FLDS mothers' request

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Mahonri | 5:48 a.m. April 26, 2008
Follow procedure, ignore the people. How typical of this system. Drag it out and tough luck for those who have their kids taken away... they don't matter.
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russ | 6:55 a.m. April 26, 2008
Keep going justice. Keep up the good work Texas. Finally, a govt. that protects the children first.
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ex-mormon | 11:25 a.m. April 26, 2008
Texas got it just right. Utah is still
in denial. Will it take Utah another
hundred years to finally crack down ?
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mamacita | 12:06 p.m. April 26, 2008
Given the fact that the state doesn't even know which kids belong with which mothers, I think the court had no choice but to deny the mothers' request.

The "mothers" will get their day in court next week, and my bet is they'll lose that one too.

The ACLU has not yet filed a suit against the state of Texas in this matter, and that speaks volumes, folks.
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Volunteer | 5:24 p.m. April 26, 2008
I spent 2 weeks volunteering in service to the women and children at the colliseum in San Angelo, and found very loving, attentive mothers and happy, robust, active children, no sign of abuse in the hundreds of children I encountered daily and found them better cared for then many of the children in mainstreat America. Yes, there were young mothers, but, also many, many older mothers. It is an outrage to remove all these children from the arms of their mothers without just cause and evidence of abuse! Why are the men sitting at the ranch when they are the obvious guilty if these allegations are true?
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Red | 6:33 p.m. April 26, 2008
It's important to obey, honor, and sustain the law. This isn't just an obligation on citizens, though; the State has the same duty. In this case, the State appears to have flouted its sworn duty by egregiously violating the law it is sworn to uphold.

The standard Texas had to meet to remove the children was "actual or imminent" danger of abuse. The State's own expert testified there was no evidence the younger children were in danger of abuse. Flying in the face of the evidence, she decided that "imminent danger" meant with "might happen in ten to 15 years."

It is wrong for a group to violate the law. It is far worse, however, for the State to do so.

If citizens become convinced they can't get fair treatment from the State, G. Gordon Liddy's advice starts looking more enticing: If it's clear you'll lose in court no matter the evidence, Don't waste ammo on the body armor; take head shots.
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Edward T | 6:43 p.m. April 26, 2008
Yes "Volunteer", they are very loving mothers... now. Just wait till those baby girls come of age to reproduce, then watch how they are turned over to the men by those same loving mothers. How about the baby boys. Do the "lost boys" in St. George mean anything to you? I don't think you can judge their love by how they treat small children and infants. This entire episode is the result of a sequestered religion. Much the same as the clanish type of religion in Afganistan that produced the Taliban. Texas is doing the right thing. Thank goodness.
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David F | 2:47 p.m. April 27, 2008
Edward T. Texas is doing the right thing? Based on one, as yet unsubstantiated complaint the state takes the children in to state custody. This is insane. As much as I may find the FLDS culture repugnant that does not warrant a police investigation. By all accounts even after the judge overstepped her authority by a country mile there is no hard evidence of "wide spread abuse". This is not the state protecting children. It is the state ignoring the rule of law.
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No. Utah sees a major earthquake every 350 years. Last one? 350 years ago.