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25 mothers taken from FLDS ranch now believed to be minors
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June | 4:14 p.m. April 24, 2008
Tragically, this is not a surprise. Thank you, Texas, for doing something.
Jane | 4:18 p.m. April 24, 2008
It is possible that some moms were saying they were over eighteen to avoid
prosecution of their husbands (and possibly parents) but felt that separation
from their children was too high a price to pay for protecting adults who were
indeed complicit with their underage "marriage."
It is also possible that some young but adult moms decided to claim they were under eighteen once they realized they'd be separated from their young children soon.
Another possibility is that medical examinations, possibly including x-rays, indicate that these moms are unlikely to be over eighteen or over.
In my opinion, the more young women can be kept away from the ranch legally the better because it is not an environment that allows free choice. The women do not have good educations for the most part and cannot even choose their own spouse, according to every woman who has escaped. And, escape is the only option to make their own choices, despite the robotic claims of some of the women back at the ranch these days.
It is also possible that some young but adult moms decided to claim they were under eighteen once they realized they'd be separated from their young children soon.
Another possibility is that medical examinations, possibly including x-rays, indicate that these moms are unlikely to be over eighteen or over.
In my opinion, the more young women can be kept away from the ranch legally the better because it is not an environment that allows free choice. The women do not have good educations for the most part and cannot even choose their own spouse, according to every woman who has escaped. And, escape is the only option to make their own choices, despite the robotic claims of some of the women back at the ranch these days.
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Ann Marie | 4:18 p.m. April 24, 2008
Matt please contact me at contact AT FLDS dot WS please.
Thanks!
Thanks!
chemist | 4:23 p.m. April 24, 2008
This all goes back to the flds people lying and deceiving the CPS investigators.
The young mothers said they were 18 because their husbands told them to say
that. I was pleaaed to hear that their "prophet's" request for a
new trial was denied. What we have here is a male dominated group of leaders who
force the women to dress in uncomfortable and restrictive clothing, do not allow
their children, especially females, to have access to full educational
opportunities and they cloak this in their interpetation of religion. (Hmm,
sounds just like the Taliban)I have little sympathy for the flds. If there were
underage females transported to YFZ for "marriage" to men 18 or over
the Mann act should apply. The children issue is but the beginning of the legal
and criminal problems that the flds will find themselves in.
John | 4:30 p.m. April 24, 2008
I agree with the TEXAS comment. It's about time someone had the common
sense to do something about babies forced to have babies. If you dont think
there is something wrong with that picture then there is something wrong with
Y-O-U!
Proud LDS Member,
Stansbury Park, Utah
Proud LDS Member,
Stansbury Park, Utah
Dillon | 4:40 p.m. April 24, 2008
Texas is doing a good and necassary service they just need to extend their
service to include all mormons. Hopefully one day they can all be free from this
evil religious infliction. Our prayers are with and for them.
To LDS people | 4:45 p.m. April 24, 2008
I'm curious, why do you think it was okay for your former leaders to marry
14 year old girls, but not Warren Jeffs.
Finally it comes out | 4:46 p.m. April 24, 2008
25 underaged child brides? Wow. The DNA tests are going to be really
interesting...These girls probably don't have birth certificates or any
kind of documentation either.
MaryPrayForUs | 4:48 p.m. April 24, 2008
How old was Mary when she married Joseph....when she had Jesus???
First they came for the Communists,
and I didn�t speak up,
because I wasn�t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn�t speak up,
because I wasn�t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn�t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.
by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945
First they came for the Communists,
and I didn�t speak up,
because I wasn�t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn�t speak up,
because I wasn�t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn�t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.
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Re: Dillon | 4:50 p.m. April 24, 2008
You think they should take children away from LDS families??
Anonymous | 4:59 p.m. April 24, 2008
I think the FLDS believes US citizens will be outraged by what CPS and Texas
authorities have done. Quite the contrary; I applaud what's been done. My
hope is that many boys and girls will be saved from this cult. This isn't
1953. We will stand up for the enslaved children!
And I don't much care if it's legal to marry teenage girls; it's wrong!
And I don't much care if it's legal to marry teenage girls; it's wrong!
Gary | 8:47 p.m. April 26, 2008
I live East of the Mississippi ... and have no affiliation with any of these
down in FLDS and LDS religions down in Texas or out West ...
But yes ... I am outraged by what CPS and the Texas authorities have done.
But yes ... I am outraged by what CPS and the Texas authorities have done.
Gary | 8:51 p.m. April 26, 2008
Would not at all be surprised if those mothers previously claiming to be adults,
that now claim to be minors, are only claiming to be minors so that they can
stay with their children.
I would think any mother that loves her kids, would even lie (and say she is a minor), if it meant she could stay with her kids (and would otherwise be separated from them).
I would think any mother that loves her kids, would even lie (and say she is a minor), if it meant she could stay with her kids (and would otherwise be separated from them).
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