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Huntsman steps up nuclear waste fight
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Downwinder D | 6:11 a.m. April 24, 2008
I saw this coming after last year's legislature passed the bill that gave
EnergySolutions the right to increase their amount of storage without State
input. I'm not suprised by this at all.
Common sense | 6:55 a.m. April 24, 2008
Dear Gov. You'll get more radiation from a dentist office, than you will
from Class A waste. None of the toxic stuff is coming to Utah. That stuff will
stay in France and Tennessee. If we have the technology and state of the art
facility, why not use it, and keep some highly skilled jobs here. It's not
dangerous. But, like "global warming" it's the new thing to hang
your hat on and make you look like your protecting us. In reality, you get more
radiation from a plane flight than from the 6 rail cars of this stuff we'll
get.
But I guess facts are pesky things.
But I guess facts are pesky things.
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Santa Clause '08! | 7:22 a.m. April 24, 2008
Give me a break. Nuclear waste storage is perfectly safe. Point to me a
situation where it was not safe... ever. This is just depriving Utah of money
and it is Government interfering with the economy once again.
Jon, you are lucky you have a monopoly and your Democrat rival has not chance to be elected otherwise your job would be in serious danger from the wrath of real conservatives unlike yourself.
Looks like a vote for Santa Clause is in order.
Jon, you are lucky you have a monopoly and your Democrat rival has not chance to be elected otherwise your job would be in serious danger from the wrath of real conservatives unlike yourself.
Looks like a vote for Santa Clause is in order.
stigmatized? | 7:43 a.m. April 24, 2008
Do we really want Utah to be seen as the world's nuclear waste
(irrespective of the "level") dumping ground? I don't.
Anonymous | 7:43 a.m. April 24, 2008
BOO! Governor Huntsman is increasingly becoming a tree hugger liberal under a
Republican guise. Don't get me wrong, I believe in conservation, but I
don't believe in global warming and think that nuclear power is a clean an
powerful answer for our energy crisis. Heck, even the French use it and we often
think of them as extreme left wing. The amount of money we can make from nuclear
waste that is safely disposed of is amazing and may be able to pay more for
education and other worthy causes. Unfortunately, we have a governor who has
quit following the voice of the people of his state and instead follows the
"expert" opinion of the internet inventing Al Gore.
Anonymous | 7:48 a.m. April 24, 2008
Even though I am not part of the Republican-Energy Solutions team, I applaud the
governor for taking a stand, Utah is not the world's dumping ground.
not the dumping ground | 8:09 a.m. April 24, 2008
The amount we would take in is less than 1 percent of the total of storage
capacity. Facts are weird things. Were ALREADY storing waste. the SIX rail
car loads is miniscule compared with what we already store and process. This
stuff is safe, and will add to our economy. It's not stored in downtown
salt Lake, or even southern Utah, but in the western desert. It's good for
the economy. It saves oil. It won't hurt our evironment. Get clues
folks. Get FACTS. Gov Huntsman is jumping on the al gore bandwagon. He needs
to jump off and start doing a bit of research, rather than shooting from the
hip.
GOOD! | 8:37 a.m. April 24, 2008
Way to stand up to that sleeze bag Energy Solutions!
RedneckLogic | 8:49 a.m. April 24, 2008
If nuclear wast is such a great thing why are other nations/states so eager to
get rid of it??
The fact monster strikes | 8:50 a.m. April 24, 2008
If the waste is so harmless folks, why spend the time and money to ship it half
way around the world to TN and UT?
Maybe the Italians could use it to fertilize their gardens or something harmless like that. There would obviously be no harm in that because it is so harmless.
Maybe they could sell it as a novelty gift in cheap toys. It would be a big seller I am sure to the American Tourists.
Sounds like these fact loving bloggers above are getting kind of silly in this situation.
Please think with your brain and your wallet not just your wallet people. Wallets are dead cow hide, you can do better than that.
Maybe the Italians could use it to fertilize their gardens or something harmless like that. There would obviously be no harm in that because it is so harmless.
Maybe they could sell it as a novelty gift in cheap toys. It would be a big seller I am sure to the American Tourists.
Sounds like these fact loving bloggers above are getting kind of silly in this situation.
Please think with your brain and your wallet not just your wallet people. Wallets are dead cow hide, you can do better than that.
jtm | 8:57 a.m. April 24, 2008
All you people that work for Energy Solutions we don't want waste from
another state let alone another country. For you to comment on this forum is a
joke!. And for those of you that think Nuclear power is so safe tell that to the
downwinders in Southern Utah.
c4mackk | 9:13 a.m. April 24, 2008
Rob Bishop is a joke. We need to vote this clown out of office and elect a
rational person who going to represent Utah.
Buh Bye Jon, | 9:23 a.m. April 24, 2008
It is time we vote Jon out of office. Increasingly he does not represent Utah.
The election is too far away, we should just recall him as CA did with Davis.
Anonymous | 9:24 a.m. April 24, 2008
Huntsman should be elected Mayor of San Francisco or Berkely California
Re the Fact Monster | 9:47 a.m. April 24, 2008
First, it will go to France and Tennessee. It will be dismantled, and melted
down and then shipped to Japan. The waste (Class A) will be shipped here to
store. Them be the facts. Now, if you think Class A is so darn dangerous, then
you need to get rid of a few things around your home. Those smoke detectors?
Higher level of radiation. Trip to the dentist? Higher level once again. Fly
in a plane? There again, higher level of radiation. Instead of knee jerk
decision, you might want to actually DO some research on this stuff. It's
equivilant to 65 box car loads. Six. Not even 1 percent of the total worlds
waste. We have the best place, and most technology to store it. Why Not? Jobs
are a god thing. This stuff will create some jobs. Added revenue - not bad
either. Go out and tour the Clive faciltiy. It's one square mile. One.
get real facts first, Sierra Club is hardly creditable on this. After all, they
are the ones who don't want drilling for our own oil 350 a gal folks.
Thanks. Sierra Club.
DEL | 9:53 a.m. April 24, 2008
THE ANSWER IS VERY SIMPLE GOVONOR. JUST CHARGE THE THE USER OF THE WASTE A
STATE IMPORT TAX FEE OF LET SAY, 100 TIMES WHAT THEY ARE PAYING NOW TO IMPORT IT
AND IF THEY WANT TO PAY IT GREAT ! MORE $$$$ FOR OUR STATE. LET'S TAKE
IT, STORE IT, BUT MAKE THEM PAY, BIG TIME !
P.S. THIS IMPORT FEE IS A STATE FEE, CHARGED BY THE STATE AND ALL MONEY GOES TO THE STATE FOR, LIKE SCHOOLS, PARKS, ECT..
LET'S KEEP OUR UTAH JOBS HERE..
P.S. THIS IMPORT FEE IS A STATE FEE, CHARGED BY THE STATE AND ALL MONEY GOES TO THE STATE FOR, LIKE SCHOOLS, PARKS, ECT..
LET'S KEEP OUR UTAH JOBS HERE..
old crusty | 9:59 a.m. April 24, 2008
I dont want no gosh darn itallian waste in my backyard Why dont they just dump
it in one of their rivers. Ir emember when we would just dump our garbage in the
creek by the house. Thats the way it was and we liked it!
Huntsman has my vote again | 10:00 a.m. April 24, 2008
It looks as if the first "to do" items at Energy Solutions this
morning was to comment in all the forums.
It does not matter how much money Energy Solutions recieves for the storage. Utahns do not want it here. Keep it in TN or Italy.
"It's not stored in downtown salt Lake, or even southern Utah, but in the western desert" says one Energy Solution employee. I really enjoy the west desert as do many other people in Utah.
It does not matter how much money Energy Solutions recieves for the storage. Utahns do not want it here. Keep it in TN or Italy.
"It's not stored in downtown salt Lake, or even southern Utah, but in the western desert" says one Energy Solution employee. I really enjoy the west desert as do many other people in Utah.
Fact monster. listen | 10:12 a.m. April 24, 2008
uhh, because we have the facility AND technology to store it? I don't work
for Energy Solutions. I'm a homemaker. But I have done my homework.
It's safe. Much safer than some things I have in my home. Why ship it
here? Because we have the facility to handle it. Why not?
Are you kidding? | 10:27 a.m. April 24, 2008
Dear Cow Hide Friends,
I can see that your cow hide has been working diligently this morning. This is because you actually think that your interest in bringing as much waste as possible to Utah represents the thoughts of all the people of Utah. Explain that one.
You actually think people will vote based on this issue. Explain that one.
You can be conservative and use your brain. This is not illegal as far as I know.
I think nuclear power is a useful technology and can be a great tool to provide our energy needs.
I doubt this would ever happen but, wouldn't it make sense for there to be a local plan of how to dispose of the waste locally whenever waste is created? These days it seems that we create waste without thinking about where it will go. Then the owners of the waste look for the location they figure is weak enough that they cannot stop the company or government from shoving the waste down their throats. All in the name of jobs. Beautiful.
Why is the public obligated to want the waste here, just because some company has a waste dump in our state?
I can see that your cow hide has been working diligently this morning. This is because you actually think that your interest in bringing as much waste as possible to Utah represents the thoughts of all the people of Utah. Explain that one.
You actually think people will vote based on this issue. Explain that one.
You can be conservative and use your brain. This is not illegal as far as I know.
I think nuclear power is a useful technology and can be a great tool to provide our energy needs.
I doubt this would ever happen but, wouldn't it make sense for there to be a local plan of how to dispose of the waste locally whenever waste is created? These days it seems that we create waste without thinking about where it will go. Then the owners of the waste look for the location they figure is weak enough that they cannot stop the company or government from shoving the waste down their throats. All in the name of jobs. Beautiful.
Why is the public obligated to want the waste here, just because some company has a waste dump in our state?
Sierra Club | 10:45 a.m. April 24, 2008
@RE The Fact Monster: You're Welcome!
Fact monster continues | 11:03 a.m. April 24, 2008
Something to consider.
Some people do not feel an obligation to accept nuclear waste from other entities transported to their state regardless of how the amount relates to the amount in the world or what class of waste it is. They may not care if the radiation level is similar to that of some every day things. They are still not obligated to accept it into their state.
Freedom to not be obligated to go along with what a company wants is a good thing and I figure most conservatives would like this principle.
Some people do not feel an obligation to make sure Energy Solutions hits their profit target. This is Energy Solutions concern, not everyone elses concern.
Some people are willing to accept that some jobs may be lost in this situation. Job loss is part of life.
Just something to consider.
Some people do not feel an obligation to accept nuclear waste from other entities transported to their state regardless of how the amount relates to the amount in the world or what class of waste it is. They may not care if the radiation level is similar to that of some every day things. They are still not obligated to accept it into their state.
Freedom to not be obligated to go along with what a company wants is a good thing and I figure most conservatives would like this principle.
Some people do not feel an obligation to make sure Energy Solutions hits their profit target. This is Energy Solutions concern, not everyone elses concern.
Some people are willing to accept that some jobs may be lost in this situation. Job loss is part of life.
Just something to consider.
J.T. | 11:28 a.m. April 24, 2008
Thank heaven the Guv found his backbone!
I am sick to death of all the mindless political goons from Utah willing to sell out their own state, its reputation, and its land, for a campaign contribution and some Jazz tickets. Yes, I am looking squarely at you Rep. Bishop, Uncles Bob and Orrin, and Curtis...and Bramble...and Howard (the Duck) Stephenson...and Ti;lton the bufoon...and...
I am sick to death of all the mindless political goons from Utah willing to sell out their own state, its reputation, and its land, for a campaign contribution and some Jazz tickets. Yes, I am looking squarely at you Rep. Bishop, Uncles Bob and Orrin, and Curtis...and Bramble...and Howard (the Duck) Stephenson...and Ti;lton the bufoon...and...
Fact | 11:29 a.m. April 24, 2008
if jobs are lost, will you volunteer to quit your job, so one of these workers
can support his family?
Thought so.
This is a good thing, it is safe. And, I hope energy solutions is able to do it. Either through the front door, or through legal door. Enough is enough. Facts need to get out, and I encourage everyone to do their homework, and find that you have more toxic stuff in your home, than what this stuff is.
Thought so.
This is a good thing, it is safe. And, I hope energy solutions is able to do it. Either through the front door, or through legal door. Enough is enough. Facts need to get out, and I encourage everyone to do their homework, and find that you have more toxic stuff in your home, than what this stuff is.
Glow worm | 11:34 a.m. April 24, 2008
Thanks governor. EnergySolutions has already bought off the state legislature
and Rob Bishop, hopefully someone will stand up for Utahns.
RE Fact | 12:04 p.m. April 24, 2008
Exactly whose job is going to be lost? Is the reason why Energy Solutions is so
upset because they have already done their hiring in anticipation of Utah
rolling over and accepting this waste?
This is just another example of a big business expecting to get their own way.
I find it interesting that some "conservatives" only think with their wallet.
This is just another example of a big business expecting to get their own way.
I find it interesting that some "conservatives" only think with their wallet.
Facts etc | 12:15 p.m. April 24, 2008
I did not expect a pro-Energy Solutions person to be a socialist but this sounds
like socialism for the profit of a company to me. I am aware that this happens
these days but often the public does not have the option to say no.
I have helped many people get jobs, given food to those in need, had those in need stay in my home.
I do not do this because I am obligated to do this(socialism). It is because I choose to help others. This is a principle of freedom we have.
My understanding of conservative principles is that each person is responsible for themselves at least to a certain extent. Why am I responsible for the jobs of people at Energy Solutions? I am not. This is socialism for profit.
I am happy to assist anyone laid off from Energy Solutions with finding a job if they need help. My neighbor works there. I will happily help them if they need help finding a new job.
Citizens are still not obligated to go along with Energy Solutions.
My guess is you are not a registered socialist, right? I could be wrong though....
I have helped many people get jobs, given food to those in need, had those in need stay in my home.
I do not do this because I am obligated to do this(socialism). It is because I choose to help others. This is a principle of freedom we have.
My understanding of conservative principles is that each person is responsible for themselves at least to a certain extent. Why am I responsible for the jobs of people at Energy Solutions? I am not. This is socialism for profit.
I am happy to assist anyone laid off from Energy Solutions with finding a job if they need help. My neighbor works there. I will happily help them if they need help finding a new job.
Citizens are still not obligated to go along with Energy Solutions.
My guess is you are not a registered socialist, right? I could be wrong though....
Homework Question | 12:22 p.m. April 24, 2008
So, we have the "best place" to store it and the "best
technology" to handle it. Why does this waste require "the best"
if it is so safe?
re: Sierra Club&Hunt has my vote | 2:06 p.m. April 24, 2008
Whom exactly do you environmentalists pattern yourselves after? Oh thats right,
the Native Americans. Guess who wanted to build a Nuclear waste storage facility
not too long ago? Oh it was the Native Americans who are living in poverty, whom
were the original Cpt. Planet.
Do your research, this is perfectly safe, especially at a facility like the one ES has. You are depriving the state of jobs and tax dollars. Maybe you love being a top 10 most taxed state in America, but I don't.
Oh and we aren't from ES, maybe we are just more well informed and play less to our emotions and fears than you do. It's sad when a homemaker (you know the woman you despise) has the common sense to support Nuclear Waste but you two don't.
Do your research, this is perfectly safe, especially at a facility like the one ES has. You are depriving the state of jobs and tax dollars. Maybe you love being a top 10 most taxed state in America, but I don't.
Oh and we aren't from ES, maybe we are just more well informed and play less to our emotions and fears than you do. It's sad when a homemaker (you know the woman you despise) has the common sense to support Nuclear Waste but you two don't.
Anonymous | 3:10 p.m. April 24, 2008
The homemaker has the common sense to support nuclear waste? re:Sierra
Club&Hunt has my vote also supports nuclear waste?
Really, what is there to support about nuclear waste? Especially nuclear waste from a foreign country. Think about what you are saying.
Why not build our own nuclear plants and reap the benefits from the product, as well as the byproduct.
Really, what is there to support about nuclear waste? Especially nuclear waste from a foreign country. Think about what you are saying.
Why not build our own nuclear plants and reap the benefits from the product, as well as the byproduct.
Facts back again | 4:47 p.m. April 24, 2008
I don't remember saying I was an environmentalist. I just am not in favor
of getting this stuff shoved down our throats.
To say that nuclear waste is some panacea to create jobs for Utah is just absurd and laughable. I wonder how much of our economic productivity is from the nuclear waste industry. I imagine it is negligible but do not have any hard numbers. If someone has them please share.
There are so many other ways to create jobs are so much less controversial and more productive. We should be focusing more in these areas.
Just because some company sets up shop in Utah and decides to sponsor the local basketball arena does not mean they are doing us a service by being here. Give me a break.
To keep saying others are not informed as an excuse for supporting ES is just silly. Informed and intelligent people have the perfect right to not want nuclear waste imported to the state. They can do this an not even be considered environmentalists. Imagine that!
To say that nuclear waste is some panacea to create jobs for Utah is just absurd and laughable. I wonder how much of our economic productivity is from the nuclear waste industry. I imagine it is negligible but do not have any hard numbers. If someone has them please share.
There are so many other ways to create jobs are so much less controversial and more productive. We should be focusing more in these areas.
Just because some company sets up shop in Utah and decides to sponsor the local basketball arena does not mean they are doing us a service by being here. Give me a break.
To keep saying others are not informed as an excuse for supporting ES is just silly. Informed and intelligent people have the perfect right to not want nuclear waste imported to the state. They can do this an not even be considered environmentalists. Imagine that!
Despise? | 4:55 p.m. April 24, 2008
Who said they despised the homemaker? I can't find it. People can just
choose to disagree.
PUFF the magical Dragon | 7:15 p.m. April 24, 2008
By jove, they just need to stop this nuclear stuff! If they don't stop it
we may all go up in a big CA-BOOM Cloud! This is dangerous stuff. Ya, just
don't be movin stuff around like this and expect good Utah folks to put up
with it. Wont happen man!
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Second. It's ok to take in waste from our overseas military but not from the nations that host the same military. What flawed thinking, waste is waste. If it's ok to store the waste from the military then it should be ok to store all the waste. If you do your research, this stuff has about as much risk to you as your florescent light bulbs with their mercury. We should not shout to the world that we want to be apart of the world economy Sir John then stipulating that that only means the good parts. Opposing it sounds good in the press thus it becomes good for your political career, right Matheson. Both of you show a narrow mindedness that is shocking.