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Reid asks AG to review federal efforts regarding polygamous communities

It's a miracle! Reid gets a story in the Deseret News. It's rarer than toad's teeth to see a Mormon democrat get space in the Deseret News. What to send the message there are more Mormons in politics than Mitt?

That's all this situation needs to have Reid and his gang poke their nose into a problem that is already so messed up on both sides. The Feds ought to let things go for awhile at least until the Texas courts work their way out of a mire that doesn't need any Senate Committee. If Reid want to do something for the Country, how about fixing the Oil and Gas scam. Or lower taxes, or something. Please Mr. Reid, get a grip. Don't spend anymore tax payer money, asking dumb questions, to get answers that everyone always knows the answer. The congress sometimes serve the people well, by not doing anything. But, no, they must give the appearance that they've earned their pay, by holding hearings and more hearings. Then pass stupid laws that cause more problems then they solve. So, please Mr. Reid, don't do anything. Take a vacation, the country would be better served.

but he deserves a lot of credit for this initiative.

I too, being a proud liberal Democrat and active Mormon, am thrilled that Harry Reid is taking this matter to heart. Frankly it is and should be a national case. Just look back into the 1890's and the federal Edmunds-Tucker Act.

Why is it a FEDERAL problem? Shouldn't local and state government's be in charge?

The FEDS have usurped too much power over the years and our Republic as been nearly toppled.

When the states don't enforce the laws (e.g. Utah ans AZ) then it is up to the Feds to step and make it right in like in the south during the Martin Luthern King days.

Feb Problem writes that it should be a state and local problem. Unfortunately the states many times don't take the initiative on such matters and after the passage of the 14th Amendment, it was determined that Feds have a role of intervention when it comes to issues regarding rights.

I am sure you are of the "conservative" bent, so it might behoove you to study J. Reuben Clark. A conservative LDS scholar and public servant who made it his goal on the federal level to systematically prosecute those who practiced polygamy for the very reasons we are seeing now. Clark was a high ranking official in the Justice Department I believe when the famous '53 Raid took place.

Please take note. Utah actually assembled a criminal case against Warren Jeffs and successfully prosecuted him resulting in a conviction. Arizona is well on the same course.

Texas... has simply made a mess that does lots of harm and likely no good. Texas was ham-handed, bigoted, and wrong in how they handled the YFZ Ranch.

Have they even found the suppossed victim? Just because a rotten apple spoiled this bunch in the past doesn't mean you continue to persecute them for what they are. Violation of the law is only that they are taking more than their share of social benefits because of the poverty they live in based on the one working man, many hungry wives and kids philosophy. As far as polygamy goes at least they are responsible to marry those to whom they procreate, better than almost 40% of the kids' parents today in the United States. Their system is effective family values in comparison to none at all. For that, the state takes their kids and denies them rights guaranteed by the constitution. How about illegals, why don't they go after them with this kind of gusto? That is a national security and individual privacy threat much greater. Who are the next group of citizens that they do this to? LDS should be sticking up for these people the most since they are the same religion in all but name and one practice. Difference: LDS knew when it was time to admit they were wrong by bowing to federal pressure.

Unfotunately many of the polygamist communities are built on or near state lines. If they get in trouble in one state they just walk across the line and then they are out of the jurisdiction of that state. This makes it very difficult for the state authorities. The real issue is not the practice of polygamy. The real issue is breaking the law. And once you decide to break the law regarding polygamy you become less inhibited when it comes to breaking other laws and societal strictures. The Federal government outlawed polygamy in about 1890 and several years later the Mormon church abandoned the practice. The Mormon church did not abandon polygamy because the practice is evil. The Mormons abandoned the practice to be law abiding citizens. The FLDS choose to be outlaws and enforcing the law against polygamy should be a Federal issue. The irony is that polygamy in and of itself is a very pro family practice, yet the law still forbids it while practices extremely destructive to the family like homosexuality, no fault divorce, abortion pornography and adultery are allowed to spread like wildfire across the nation.

Hey folks, I'm an Independent moderate that lately leans just left of center, but where parental rights and children protection is concerned... well... let's just say that my view is that today it's State CPS as Child Protection Services, and tomorrow it will be Federal CPS as the Collective Parenting Service.

Does that sound so facetious? Maybe today, but I'm not so sure of tomorrow.

Just because we disagree with the religious belief and practices of another does not give us the right to storm troop our way into peoples homes without due process... which the CPS agencies of every state are doing.

I don't agree with these dudes (and dudettes) religion or way of life, but I agree even less with the wholesale suspension of parental rights (which both State and Federal governments are hell bent on destroying) in the name of protecting children, or their dogs and cats or whatever.

It's a dangerous precedent that all Freedom loving and law abiding Americans will come to rue and wish they had handled differently.

This issue is definitely where I part with Liberals (and the neo-Cons penchant for Fascism, which is about controlling parenting and families as well).

So what you are saying that it is ok for 50 year old men to have sex with 13 year old little girls?????

One reason this needs a federal law, as opposed to simply state laws, is because of jurisdiction rules. If a girl becomes pregnant in Texas, then Utah may not be able to prosecute. (At least that's what our Attorney General said on TV today.)

They probably won't fret about earning the polygamist trust or set up liaison committees or play patty-cake but they might put an end to open flaunting of the law.

There should be a federal 'embassy' built in every polygamist community; a known safe house where people can try to make their way to freedom. I'd love to see more help for those mired in the miserable inescapable existence that emerges when one is stripped of their own identity.

I think that the maybe there is some contacts going on behind the scenes with the Feds and Texas. Texas needs the Feds to bail them out on this one cause it is soooo messed up starting with the search warrant.

Ithink Dan & Demopublican hit the nail on the head (two different points). Federal interference and passing silly laws that worsen things is a big problem and violating parental rights is a frightening thing.

Child protective services need to have proof of abuse in each individual case. They can't go in just because they fear something MIGHT happen. They don't even have proof that the 16 year old exists. It appears in was probably the Winton woman who made the call, a 33 year old from CO.

One social workers set pecedent of taking children on suspicion of a future abuse, they have crossed the line the Constitution and other laws of the land have set to keep government in check. We all have something to fear at that point and anyone could have their children taken because the government doesn't like the beliefs of the parents.

One doesn't have to approve of the FLDS ways to recognize how wrong and dangerous these things are. Not agreeing with then is not justification for taking the children

Your going to keep the government in check? What turnip truck did you fall off of. We may be slow but once we sink out teeth in, look out. One hundred and ten years is long enough for even the slow ones to figure things out. I would like to see you come between a mama bear and her cubs, well mama goverment is going to come down hard on you country pumpkins so get your ducks in a row and save your "I have my rights" line for the Federal judge. I can't wait to hear you say "well god told me I could play with little girls" What a bunch of crakers.

Amazing to see how many statists there are on this board - folks who just love to see expansive government.

That being said, if the Feds are being asked to look into polygamous communities, when, then, are they going to look into the lives of homosexuals? Yes, homosexuals - another perverse group. Why not destroy these people's lives as well?

For those of you clowns who think that the federal government has the authority to pass laws like "Edmunds-Tucker", please cite for me the passage of the Constitution that authorizes this. You can't find one? What a surprise! It's because the federal government doesn't have the power to regulate polygamy. In fact, the first amendment specifically prohibits Congress from making laws that infringe on the free exercise of religion - seems many of you have forgotten that.

Do you really believe that ALL polygamists are child abusers? I don't. What's going on here are too many government-loving members of the LDS Church who can't wait for someone else (read: ANY level of government) to go in and crush these people - because the Church thinks they're an embarrassment. Sorry, folks, but religious freedom doesn't work that way...

Gotta love those government-loving members of the LDS Church. "Hey, come in and get rid of this group that we DON'T like."

Odd, but it seems like the same treatment was dished out to members of the LDS Church by governments about a hundred and sixty years ago. I guess now that Mormons are seen as being relatively 'mainstream' it is OK to turn government against someone else.

Hypocrites!