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Judge in FLDS case peppers CPS with questions

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Mike | 10:38 a.m. April 24, 2008
to Concerned Mother

I notice that you didn't disavow the practice of marrying young girls to older men, or of the ability of leaders to "take" families away and "assigning" them to others.

"If this can happen to people just because they decide to live differently,"

So "living differently" involving child abuse is okay with you? Spare me!

Even if Carolyn Jessop wasn't telling the truth, how about the scores of others who have "escaped" the nightmare of that sect and have written of exactly the same thing?
Ron | 10:43 a.m. April 24, 2008
It seems that we no longer have any rights and the government can do anything they want without probable cause. As to home schooling kids my daughter was home schooled till the 8th grade and had to be tested.(seems she was smarter than most of the adults in law enforcement in texas.
bzmom | 11:09 a.m. April 24, 2008
I have a cousin that is involved with this and has 3 wives and 23 children. His oldest daughter was married very young to a 43 year old and 3 children very young. She was fortunate to get out of this situation but not without complete fear of her life. Her bothers were kicked out of the sect around 14-15 and went through more than you can imagine. Fortunately 3 of her bothers have had lots of help from family(outside of this sect)and have gotten things in order and doing much better with jobs and a semi normal life. It would make your skin crawl if you could hear the real things that go on behind closed doors. It's about time a state stood up to these perverts and is trying to help these children out of this hellish situation. It's just too bad Utah and Az. have swept it under the rug for so many years. Texas needs to be commended for trying to do something to help these kids escape. Talk to someone who's lived it and your attitude just might change. Crimes against children are against the law for any "religion" GO TEXAS
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concerned | 12:36 p.m. April 24, 2008
How dare anybody compare this to the Nazi holocaust? Are the FDLS being taken to concentration camps and gassed to death? I think not. They are being fed and cared for by tax payers as they have been all along. There is absolutely no comparison. It is a disrespect to all Jews and survivors of the holocaust to even compare the two. Jews did not practice poligamy and rape their children. They were victims. These men are criminals and their wives and children are victims of the men and nobody else. DEPROGRAM
Skeptic | 12:14 p.m. April 26, 2008
Former judge Andrew Napolitano stated on Fox News that this is how the Nazis started their control of pre war Germany. The Germans did not take the Jewish citizens to the concentration camps at first. Not until the final solution decreed by Hitler did the concentration camps come into existence. He thinks the state of Texas will pay dearly in public opinion and money in future law suits. This is not my opinion; however when a former federal prosecutor and judge make a statement like this it will carry weight. This will be a very interesting case when it gets into the federal court system. I am not a lawyer so I do not know if any or all of the allegations are real. I will reserve my opinion until the case matures. However I do think Texas has opened a can of worms that will consume a substantial amount of the Texas citizen�s tax dollars. The Texas CPS practices will have to endure intense scrutiny in the federal courts.
Innocent until proven guilty | 1:05 p.m. April 26, 2008
Pastor Martin Niemoller (1892-1984) summed up the current scenario very well in his poem which was written, according to Wikipedia, �about the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group after group.� It goes like this:

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn�t a Jew.

When they came for me,
There was no one left to speak out.
To the FLDS &supporters | 10:15 a.m. April 27, 2008
The state will do DNA testing for any underage pregnant girl. They will find the father and if he is an adult he will be prosecuted. If he is also underage he could still be prosecuted in juvenille court.
The things happening now are just the same (only on a much larger scale) as the things that have happened in the rest of society. That includes the actions by CPS.
You (the FLDS) are not being treated any more unfairly than the rest of the population has been treated. If you had been honest (no shell games with the children) in the first place or if you had come clean in the first couple of days none of this would be happening to you. YOU have brought this on yourselves.

The rest of the nation could have the same things done to them ONLY if they break the same laws and encourage abuse (sex with a 13 year old girl) or abandonment of children.
Max | 6:30 a.m. May 3, 2008


Polgamy is not against the law. Bigamy is. Basically, I could technically father as many kids from as many woman as I want as long as I'm only "legally" married
to one woman.

The only potential crime that any one has been accused with (not charged with BTW) is statutory rape.


Back to your regularly scheduled witch hunt.

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