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LDS Church calls request 'erroneous'
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Survivor | 10:29 a.m. April 23, 2008
I agree with Sensitivity. The LDS church is willing to help all people. To
tell you the truth, I don't think they would be interested. They have
clearly kept to themselves cause they chose to. Where are the other members of
that church, why aren't they helping their own. But, the best help they
could get is for the guilty to stand up and stop hiding behind the innocent. No
church has the right to have beliefs that are against the law of the land.
Meaning Polygomy.
SFC RET VAN METER | 10:42 a.m. April 23, 2008
Sensitivity: I agee with you the FLDS has many times stated that the LDS is the
apostate breakaway and are hostile toward us. The FLDS refuse to except that
they are the ones who broke away and are the apostate breakaway church.
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Charles | 11:44 a.m. April 23, 2008
It looks like the judge is trying to tie the lds with the Flds, they are to
trying to put the burden on someone else because they are feeling the heat, for
doing the wrong thing to 99% law bidding FLDS folks at the ranch. The judge and
police most likly been planing this raid for a year or so, and the minstery
caller, etc. I pray for the children,being away from their mothers and fathers,
this should not happen in the USA. arest the whole FLDS Ranch, take them away
from their homes and church, not able to go to the Temple, what a wonderful
Temple the FLDS built, with skills and wisdom to do this, only from Heavenly
Father.
Pray that some day help will come soon, what about their gardens that they need to feed the families. The state of texas realy upset their lives, it hard to belive this could happen in the USA, Wheres the ACLU whos looking after their rights? Shame, Shame
Pray that some day help will come soon, what about their gardens that they need to feed the families. The state of texas realy upset their lives, it hard to belive this could happen in the USA, Wheres the ACLU whos looking after their rights? Shame, Shame
K2 | 12:40 p.m. April 23, 2008
One of the difficulties the LDS Church will have to eventually face up to
(vis-a-vis the FLDS Church) is that polygamy (more correctly in this instance -
polygyny) was begun and practiced by the LDS. And, to counter the carefully
crafted comments of Brother Trotter that the "...the basis that our beliefs
and practices are close to those of this polygamous group because they are
not." Well, he is at least half-correct - current practice, no; beliefs,
yes. It is odd that many LDS do not seem to believe in polygamy yet their canon
makes it an eternal eddict. One only has to look at the thousands of
genealogical records and Utah obituaries (the latter up until the late
60's) wherein you will find the words "sealed to" (another woman
or women). If interested further, read the words of early LDS leaders to see how
very specific the practice of having multiple marriages is an
"eternal" decree. And, incidentally, Deseret Territory was shrinking
mightily until the LDS Church decided to wave the white flag such that statehood
could eventually become a reality (in some cases decades after other western
states).
John | 1:24 p.m. April 23, 2008
KS has stated this well. Brother Trotter is either disingenuous or ignorant of
LDS history, teachings, and beliefs. The FLDS are our theological cousins and
deserve our assistance if requested.
C | 2:04 p.m. April 23, 2008
Doesn't matter between the two - they're both a religion descended
from the crazy "prophet" Joseph Smith. How people in today's
world can believe all this nonsense is beyond me!!!
Jar | 3:55 p.m. April 23, 2008
"C" you need to grow up.
Inbred Cousin? | 6:19 p.m. April 23, 2008
John writes: The FLDS are our theological cousins and deserve our assistance if
requested.
If that is the case I want a religious DNA test! These guys won't even place a picture of Christ on their website and tack up oodles of pics of Warren Jeffs instead. I think if your theory is true, these guys got off on a tangent, became inbred and lost and similarity to what the LDS Church is now. Claiming to continue with a practice that was banned by the Lord, they are no more fit to represent God than Henry the Eighth was when he split off from the Catholic Church, who has a legitimate claim to authority.
If that is the case I want a religious DNA test! These guys won't even place a picture of Christ on their website and tack up oodles of pics of Warren Jeffs instead. I think if your theory is true, these guys got off on a tangent, became inbred and lost and similarity to what the LDS Church is now. Claiming to continue with a practice that was banned by the Lord, they are no more fit to represent God than Henry the Eighth was when he split off from the Catholic Church, who has a legitimate claim to authority.
NathanNV | 7:05 p.m. April 23, 2008
James Baker, Jimmy Swaggart, Father Shandly, Warren Jeffs, The truth is all
religions are cults. Every one promotes their "brand" of worship as
Gods exclusive truth, and God is not happy. You see God loves Evangelicals and
Baptists...He loves Mormons too, even the Fundamentalists.
This raid is purely political. After the 2008 Presidential Primary DEBACLE where Mormons and Evangelicals were used as Patsys to kill the Conservative movement in America by canceling out each others vote and electing McCain ( I suppose you all believe what he says instead of looking at his voting record),Hatred and Bitterness between the two groups has reached historical highs. The Gov. of Texas is up for re-election and what better way to win Huckabee supporters than Humiliate the Mormons, even if the call for help was a total lie, and the charges are unproven with no due process or warrant, the children will still be stolen from the arms of their Mothers and their culture, in order to re-elect the Gov. of Texas and satisfy the revenge lust of the Huckabee supporters.
I think I'll Become a Buddist.
This raid is purely political. After the 2008 Presidential Primary DEBACLE where Mormons and Evangelicals were used as Patsys to kill the Conservative movement in America by canceling out each others vote and electing McCain ( I suppose you all believe what he says instead of looking at his voting record),Hatred and Bitterness between the two groups has reached historical highs. The Gov. of Texas is up for re-election and what better way to win Huckabee supporters than Humiliate the Mormons, even if the call for help was a total lie, and the charges are unproven with no due process or warrant, the children will still be stolen from the arms of their Mothers and their culture, in order to re-elect the Gov. of Texas and satisfy the revenge lust of the Huckabee supporters.
I think I'll Become a Buddist.
wilhelmina78 | 8:11 p.m. April 23, 2008
I hope who ever is in charge will see to it that this type of going ons where
they end up marry their cousins, and any intermarriage are subject to be put
away. Look up Fumarase Deficiency and see what happens when intermarriage is
allowed. My thought and prayers go out to the children. and the women (who must
be brainwashed ) get some couseling and the men have an operation where they can
not produce anymore children. I hope the Judge sees that this is not allowed to
ever happen again
NathanNV | 9:13 p.m. April 23, 2008
If the Children are to be adopted then they should go to "Main stream"
LDS families. This would cause much less stress on the children as the culture
shock would be greatly minimized. My assumption is that they will be given to
Evangelical families to satisfy political needs.
Rose | 1:08 p.m. April 24, 2008
I feel like they had something to hide or they wouldn't have their
community so isolated from society. I am a Christian woman, but I believe that
we should take the WWJD and go for there.
Anonymous | 5:53 p.m. April 24, 2008
I don't know the ins and outs of the Morman religion, but I do know what
our Constitution says. We can believe what we want, worship how we want, as long
as we don't break the law by doing so. Satanists cannot murder for their
religion, so I don't believe that the FDLA should be allowed to marry or
rape underage girls. If a 50 year old man has sex with a 17 year old girl, or
younger, within a normal community, we would be horrified and would convict him
as a sex offender. I as a mother am so saddened to hear that the children were
taken from their mothers, but at the same time, these children were in danger of
being sexually exploited. I just wish there was a way to keep the families
together without endangering the young ones.
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FLDS view the LDS as the apostate breakaway. They would prefer to keep the LDS as far away from them as possible. I would think that it would be more culturally sensitive to have suggested a different denomination- or even better, a non-denominational service group.