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If polygamists want to fight to decriminalize bigamy, living in a secret compound or closed off communities and committing crimes against children and women is definitely not the way to go about it. Warren Jeff�s made horrible decisions that cost all polygamists any chance they had to gain public support for decriminalizing the lifestyle. Hopefully the one thing that does come out of the incident in Texas is the message to adults who do practice polygamy, that this country will not stand for abuse of any kind under the guise of religion.
Even though I don't agree with that lifestyle, kudos to the women interviewed on CNN and other networks.
Or perhaps you refer to insulating them from the rest of the world. Then is preventing children from seeing X-rated material considered brainwashing? What about letting them go to Disneyland unaccompanied? Or drive a car? Drink alcohol?
If polygamists want to fight to decriminalize bigamy, living in a secret compound or closed-off communities and committing crimes against children and women is definitely not the way to go about it. Warren Jeff�s made horrible decisions that cost all polygamists any chance they had to gain public support for decriminalizing the lifestyle. Hopefully the one important thing that does come out of the incident in Texas is the message to adults who do practice polygamy--that this country will not stand for abuse of any kind under the guise of religion.
Laws against polygamy may be unconstitutional, but they are laws none-the-less. Laws that protect children are and always will be constitutional. We can argue the legality of plural marriage, but we cannot argue the legality of allowing or enabling men to physically and/or sexually abuse children.
We must unite to protect these girls, regardless of our religous convictions and tenets.
And the sheared sheep believe it.
I read somewhere each family is restricted to one color for the female dress. So in theory if you study the pictures can we assume the women wearing the same color dress are all married to the same guy?
you know the rest.
And now we know a bit more about WHY they immigrated.
Think about it.
Westerners are typically Christian. Indians are typically Hindu. Middle-East are typically Muslim. This is all due to regionalized brainwashing. They all think they are right, but none have any proof. Mormons fall into this category as well.
Skanky old men.
Skanky way of life.
May God have mercy on their souls!
Larry King | 1:29 p.m. Apr. 17, 2008
I watched Larry King he was asking them, have you ever seen old man marry younger women? They were evasive. Who cares about the fact that there was zero articulation in the question. End Quote
the irony of this statement had me in stitches. Has Mr. King ever had a wife his age?
Tearing 400 children away from their families on the basis of a single dubious, anonymous -- and, I suspect, entirely fabricated -- phone call. How does this happen in America?
Most horrifying report from this debacle: "The judge must decide whether it is in the children's best interest to place them back into mainstream society."
Oh, really. Next up: The Amish. Let's get 'em, boys.
"The state of Texas "rescued" me 44 years ago. I ended up in an adoptive home where I really WAS abused. Here's what foster care is like. You get no answers; you are a THING. They give you new parents, and tell you to forget your old ones. You're a new happy family. The state expects this to happen because it says so. Utterly false. I know."
If you extend the definition to all kinds of 'indoctrination', then science teachers would also be included and I don't think most religion-bashers here would want that. These same people have no idea of the penalties involved in closed communities where brainwashing occurs.
So many converts are individuals taught initially outside any community or congregation that you could not consider this a form a brainwashing.
One litmus test for believers and non-believers: are you afraid of other ideas??
Texas sure has. And they did not go in just because
of "SARAH". Have you read other accounts on the
price women and children pay if they want to leave
the FLDS life and get caught? Believe me, Texas
has other information that has not come out yet.
Why do you think they want DNA? FUMERASE DEFICIENCY!
Do you want tax dollars to go to funding BIRTH DEFECTS caused by arranged marriages with relatives?
AZ. and Utah did it for YEARS and Texas officials
will not turn a blind eye with their heads stuck in
the sand, thank God!
Read, read other articles and then you will GET IT
and stop enabling the tragic situation here!
Constitutional rights do not include inflicting
ignorance of birth defects on innocent children!
She related how her ex-husband FLDS leader took her
baby son and spanked his bottom repeatedly until
he cried until he was exhausted. Then her helpless
baby was placed under a water faucet where he would
cry more. The process was repeated, which he called
"breaking them". This instilled so much fear into the child that they would be afraid of their father. The mother, (Carolyn), was young and pregnant with a second child, with severe morning
sickness, couldn't fight this man, and HER FEAR WAS
THAT IF SHE FOUGHT HIM, HE WOULD HURT HER CHILD MORE! Folks, these sweet women you may be seeing
being interviewed on CNN are not going to give the
real story because they live in fear. They have lived in it so long they believe it is normal.
The person on Nancy Grace's panel was so grieved
by Carolyn's story that she cried on air! I cried,too!
Not every "family" at this compound in El Dorado
will have a story like this, but as the psychologist
on Nancy's show put it, some mothers don't recognize
what abuse is.
"RELIGIOUS FREEDOM"?? PRAY THIS SICKNESS STOPS!
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