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It all begins with the "government" being concerned for the "well-being" of the people in the compound.
When the para-military arrives with tanks and assualt vehicles, then it had to have been the fault of the folks in the compound.
This will happen to every church in the US when the NWO forces them to bow to the AntiChrist.
It is just a matter of time until they reach your house.
But I did not complain because I was not a Mormon
Then they stormed Ruby Ridge
But I did not complain because I was not a member of the Weaver family.
Then they laid siege on the Branch Davidians
But I did not complain because I was not a Branch Davidian.
Then they took Elian Gonzalez away from his grandparents at gunpoint, to return him to Cuba
But I did not complain because I have never lived under the boot of a communist dictator.
Then they came for the innocent children of the Yearning for Zion community
But I did not complain because I am not FLDS.
And when they came for me, there was no one left to help me.
I can hear Janet Reno lamenting that they didn�t manage to bring in the tanks and flammable gas so they could burn down the whole place and any remaining victims, conveniently hiding their lack of evidence.
Oh, but we�re clearing the world of those pesky cultists!
Define �cultist�. All religions start as what some would consider a cult. For many people (including some who have posted here), a cult is any religion which you find disagreeable.
Who makes some people such authorities, that they can pass judgment like this? �You must be arrested, kidnapped, shot, crushed, or burned alive because I don�t like your religion.�
As for the Due Process, I'm sure the authorities are following the rules with this situation being watched on a global basis.
Add "private brothel for dirty old men."
While you're yowling about violation of rights and the constitution and crying crocodile tears for the children parted from their mothers, think about the deflowering of a twelve year old girl by a fifty year old man -- and the mothers who let this happen to their little girls.
That this kind of sexual abuse and slavery could be ignored for so many years in America is what is disgusting.
Well said.
But,if you defend the mothers by saying that this is what they were raised to believe, therefor they couldn't act against it, then you can't say the men are all pedo's. Same logic must apply
One allegation, made against one man, somehow resulted in the kidnapping of 400+ children, and only because there weren�t more. Did they arrest any suspects? The allegation was made against one. Let�s throw in some more just for good measure. Let�s just say they found evidence implicating 10 men. Instead of removing or arresting 10 men, they kidnapped over 400 children. Logical? No. Persecution? Undoubtedly.
How convenient for the government that they had an allegation upon which to base this mass kidnapping. How convenient that they were able to ransack peoples� homes and all they found was a bed in a Temple, when they haven�t even found the rumored whistle-blower. How convenient that so many people are so quick to condemn these people for their lifestyle, their beliefs, etc., that they will be willing sycophants for the Texas Gestapo.
They believe in polygamy! They must pay! They believe in removing themselves from society! They must pay! Some have left the group and made accusations against them! Never mind vetting those accusations, They must pay!!
If this was about abuse, they would have arrested a few individuals. But it�s not.
The same thing is practiced all over the world in Islam by hundreds of millions of people and no one bats an eye. At least the FDLS isn't raising sucide bombers.
Just wait till the lawyers figure out how to hold TX accountable for trashing these people's rights. Where was the emergency? Tx is going to have to pay big bucks for this screwup. This has been going on for decades! Could have been handled much better.
You may not like the polygimists but remember this: First they came for you and I did nothing, then they came for my neighbor and I was silent. Now they come for me.
To all of you who's objection to polygamy boils down to: It's illegal or it's yucky. Wake up!!! If you are willing to accept 2 married men/women calling themselves a family and cannot deal with this, you are in some serious need of examining the vacuous lack of logic between the ears.
To all the trolls: I am not a polygamist and will not become one. I, however, do have the ability to think beyond my narrow scope of experience. To you liberals, if it truly 'takes a village' to raise a child, why is this so bad? The only thing in here that I am against is children under the age of consent getting married. Past that, I hope that they have a rich and rewarding life! (Hint to the clueless: It is not just about money.)
Arrest warrants have been thrown out because they searched 414 1/2 Main St. instead of 414 Main St. Yet one anonymous complaint justifies searching 100's of homes. The evidence so far a bed in a church. How many priests/ministers live in the CHURCH.
Whether or not someone is guilty there WILL be charges. Texas must justify it's actions. They will tell the children they can't go home until they admit to being abused. They will plant thoughts then reinterview them until the child believes it to be true. I have personally seen US social services do this. Want proof? google Wenatchee and abuse.
Who isolated women/children by taking cellphones? Texas.
It's so basic to me. If there's even a threat of a child being abused, whether or not there's evidence, you move in. It's just like how you can joke about a bomb at the airport. It's so serious that you take action right away. Read, "Escape". It tells of the abuses this cult practices on women and children.
Religion based on deception.
Does any thinking member of society who believes in equality for the sexes in terms of education and opportunity, feel that raising young women for the pleasure of old perverted men who would be kicked out of the mainstream church is correct? Forget the religious part, it's just wrong on many levels.
And trying to justify by blathering on with everything else wrong in society does not change the fact of underage females being forced to marry
"spiritually" It's called statutory rape.
Please; it is nauseating that some people can defend this by any measure.
In our world old men who sexually abuse kids are listed on websites and most of them have went to jail a time or two. I don't get why some people are wanting to support them!!!
It's just one more step towards destroying the White Race and Christianity.
It's interesting to me, that Elizabeth Segal, a Jewish lesbian who's book, "An Introduction to Profession of Social Work - Becoming a Change Agent" has done tons of research into the Mormon religion. In her book she spews anti white, anti male, anti heterosexual, anti family, anti Christian, anti Protestant, rhetoric.
I am looking for connections between her and this case. Is it being ran by some of her 'students'? Is she directly involved in some official capacity somewhere along the line?
Go for it TEXAS! You have my support!
It, polygamy, is against the law of the land.
Illegal immigration is against the law of the land, also.
Yet we give it a pass.
How many children have been harmed because of this? Living in shadows, mom and dad on the run full time...never encouraged to assimilate.
It's a given the FLDS women are psychologically duped, but how is this different from Islam? The Burka? Male theocratic psychosis running amok.
Islam allows 4 wives and as many secondary wives as one desires. There are MULTIPLE occasions where it is going on here in America. Where is the outrage?
The U.K., Germany, and Canada have already shown to be clear in allowing Islamic Polygamy to stand and thrive.
If we are going to 'enforce' the 'law of the land' can we PLEASE be consistent and enforce ALL OF IT. Illegal Immigration, polygamy, etc. None of this 'buffet style' picking and choosing.
Give the land to the women and children, and IMPRISON the MEN and however many complicit women are there also.
Rather than fight the YFZ on polygamy charges, the lawmakers in Texas probably thought this would be a better and quicker way to get into the YFZ Ranch and close it. Will they ever find the 16 year old girl who made the phone call???
I read the article today (4-14) about the Texas CPS confiscating all the cell-phones after the images of the sleeping arrangements hit the papers yesterday. They (CPS) are just trying to CYA as best they can.
People should say a prayer for the kids who are caught in the middle of this mess.
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How sick are you that you would allow this abuse to exist?
I don't care how much the moms and dads cry. If you plan to marry off your 15 yr old girl to anyone, you are sick and belong in jail.
Why did they build compounds? Because if they didn't society would catch on sooner to their sick child abusing society.
I am disgusted at you all. You should be ashamed at yourselves. How can you just abandon these children? Sick.