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CITIZEN | 10:06 a.m. April 4, 2008
Has this country been SOLD OUT OR AM I JUST imagining this?????
C,Jones | 10:08 a.m. April 4, 2008
This, of course, makes the front page of the Deseret Amnesty News as it fits
their agenda perfectly. There are about 100 reasons illegal immigration is
destroying our country and economy and they find maybe one plus in the whole
situation and put it front and center.
Illegals cost about $10.00 for every $1.00 they contribute, THAT IS A FACT and not disputable at all, numerous studies have proven it.Crime is soaring because of them also. If the Deseret News spent as much time trying to fund illegals themselves as they do trying to convince us how wonderful these lawbreakers are, the problem would go away.
Illegal immigration is a scourge on this country and you need look no further than about 1500 state laws currently being enacted to try and take the country back. Wake up, it isn't good, it's all bad.
Illegals cost about $10.00 for every $1.00 they contribute, THAT IS A FACT and not disputable at all, numerous studies have proven it.Crime is soaring because of them also. If the Deseret News spent as much time trying to fund illegals themselves as they do trying to convince us how wonderful these lawbreakers are, the problem would go away.
Illegal immigration is a scourge on this country and you need look no further than about 1500 state laws currently being enacted to try and take the country back. Wake up, it isn't good, it's all bad.
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NV Reader | 10:12 a.m. April 4, 2008
I am appalled at the negative comments to this article. As stated by a previous
poster, the truth is that illegal immigration is both beneficial and harmful.
Beneficial in that, at least historically, the use of illegal workers has kept
the price of consumer goods lower than they might otherwise have been and good
insofar as it provides those illegals with an income they could never expect in
their home country.
However, it is also harmful in that there is a criminal element that immigrates illegally to this country. It is also harmful to the illegals who otherwise live and work honestly for many of the reasons stated by previous posters and because they have no real future here.
I'm not an advocate of illegal immigration, but I think we need to be a little more compassionate towards others. Most illegals would prefer to live and work in their own country, but they simply don't have opportunities there. Perhaps we would all be better served if before casting aspersions on others, we contemplate what our lives might be like if the shoe were on the other foot.
However, it is also harmful in that there is a criminal element that immigrates illegally to this country. It is also harmful to the illegals who otherwise live and work honestly for many of the reasons stated by previous posters and because they have no real future here.
I'm not an advocate of illegal immigration, but I think we need to be a little more compassionate towards others. Most illegals would prefer to live and work in their own country, but they simply don't have opportunities there. Perhaps we would all be better served if before casting aspersions on others, we contemplate what our lives might be like if the shoe were on the other foot.
Complete B.S. | 10:14 a.m. April 4, 2008
Just last night on the news we saw stories of a large cocaine bust and
sentencing of the Mexican national who chained his girlfriend to an engine
block. I'm sure the government of Mexico is delighted to send these folks
to the U.S. so they can remit money back to Mexico. Meanwhile, we, the U.S.
taxpayer will continue to foot the bill for all the social services, law
enforcement, incarceration, and everything else that is outside of
businesses' bottom line. I have nothing against Mexico, but it seems
we're not getting their best and brightest, but rather the most desperate,
least educated, and lowest skilled. It's a faustian bargain that only
businesses and special interests can love.
Why favor Mexico? | 10:15 a.m. April 4, 2008
Why favor Mexican citizens over everyone else in the world who would love an
opportunity to work and live in the U.S? Mexico is one of the more prosperous
nations of the world, and they should be doing more to help their own people.
When we countenance illegal immigrants from (mostly) Mexico, we do so at the
expense of other would-be immigrants. What happened to fairness and equal
treatment--let alone the rule of law?
VOTE OUT ANYONE WHO'S SOFT ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. WRITE YOUR REPRESENTATIVE TODAY!
VOTE OUT ANYONE WHO'S SOFT ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. WRITE YOUR REPRESENTATIVE TODAY!
Pro-Immigration | 10:24 a.m. April 4, 2008
Immigration is critical to our economy and our society. There is nothing wrong
with some fresh life blood to carry on the American dream.
I also believe we need to some rhyme and reason to this process. Let people live here legally, without fear of deportation. Let them conduct their affairs in the light of day. Give them something magnificent to work for and something magnificent to lose.
Two years ago I watched a pro-immigration rally in Chicago. Over 400,000 immigrants and supporters paraded down Jackson. I left my office to watch them from the street so I could see their faces. I saw nervous people emerging from the shadows for the first time. For the first time, they were involved in something they were proud about. They had a voice. They meant something. They stood for something. It was an awesome and moving experience.
I think back on the days of boats filled with immigrants heading to Ellis Island, with the Statue of Liberty welcoming them here. I would have loved to see their expressions.
I also believe we need to some rhyme and reason to this process. Let people live here legally, without fear of deportation. Let them conduct their affairs in the light of day. Give them something magnificent to work for and something magnificent to lose.
Two years ago I watched a pro-immigration rally in Chicago. Over 400,000 immigrants and supporters paraded down Jackson. I left my office to watch them from the street so I could see their faces. I saw nervous people emerging from the shadows for the first time. For the first time, they were involved in something they were proud about. They had a voice. They meant something. They stood for something. It was an awesome and moving experience.
I think back on the days of boats filled with immigrants heading to Ellis Island, with the Statue of Liberty welcoming them here. I would have loved to see their expressions.
AMC | 10:18 a.m. April 4, 2008
What a sad time we live in. Instead of being rational and finding ways to work
together as human beings, I hear the rantings and ravings of wild lynch mobs.
Thank goodness Mr. Jones has the integrity to speak up and try to calm the angry
mob. But, I can see it is past that, there are very few willing to listen. It
scares me to think what the future will bring...
We Need Them | 10:26 a.m. April 4, 2008
Without immigrants, our population would be either stable or shrinking. That
would not bode well with the looming retirement of baby boomers.
Re: Pure Bigotry | 10:23 a.m. April 4, 2008
A Charged issue because the chaos and the Fed�s refusal to
do anything about it. According to the Heritage Foundation legalizing our
current illegal population (12-20M) would be very expensive. This population is
predominately low skilled, around 50-60 percent lack a high school degree. This
segment (low skilled laborer) will collect an average of $3 of federal benefits
for every $1 they pay in tax, which means an $89 billion yearly cost to
taxpayers. Once you factor in chain migration, retirement, Social Security,
Medicare and Welfare benefits, we are looking at a total cost of $2.6 trillion.
On top of that, how many of us remember the immigration rallies where illegals
demanded rights and flew their home flags. It shouldn�t
matter, but I mention this to defuse the bigot accusation. I am a legal,
brown-skinned immigrant but first and foremost an American patriot.
Facts & Studies | 10:26 a.m. April 4, 2008
Posters keep referring to these "undisputable facts", and all of these
"irrefutable studies" to make their arguments, but don't provide
any references to these facts and studies. Put your money where your mouth is
and give all of us a reference to these facts and studies so we can find out for
ourselves instead of taking your word for it.
I hope I can help them | 10:49 a.m. April 4, 2008
My family has been American for many generations and helped with the formation
of this "Greatest Nation".
Now however, I hope I can assist my Mexican brothers in taking America to its next "Greatest Destiny".
Now however, I hope I can assist my Mexican brothers in taking America to its next "Greatest Destiny".
love one another..... | 10:56 a.m. April 4, 2008
It's sad that most of the people reading and commenting on the news in THIS
site most likely are of the LDS faith. Last time I checked, that is a church
that preaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ. When does the tolerance and Christ
like Love for your brothers kick in? The people from Mexico are Human beings
just like you or dare I say �children of
God� too. I do realize this isn't a religious post and
that's not what is being discussed. All I'm saying is that even though
we are all allowed our own opinion on the subject, must we be so rude and full
of hatred in the comments I still don�t know exactly how I
feel about the Immigration issue the states is experiencing because it sure is
affecting us in many aspects, but also there are always two sides to the story.
Just remember who you represent as disciples of Jesus Christ, who not only loves
the American Citizens, but EVERYONE. Even the people he visited south of the
border! So instead of allowing hatred to fill your hearts,
let�s try and find a reasonable solution and TRY to be
kind.
Thomas | 11:20 a.m. April 4, 2008
The article mentions that Jones stated that mass Mexican immigration to the
United States is a net benefit to this country, but it doesn't explain
*how*.
I don't know if that's just a failure of the reporter to write a competent story, or if Jones sort of glossed over that part in his address.
I don't know if that's just a failure of the reporter to write a competent story, or if Jones sort of glossed over that part in his address.
To: Love one another | 11:28 a.m. April 4, 2008
Your LDS religion also supports obeying the laws of the land. You can't
have it both ways hypocrit. Now to my little tidbit: Have any of you been to a
city high school lately and watched an assembly? I have been to three in the
past year and noticed that the MAJORITY of hispanics DO NOT stand up during the
national anthem. How does that reality make all of you veterans and true
Americans feel? If any of you think these Mexicans respect our land you are
absolutely wrong! Actions speak louder than words and I've seen the
actions in person from many Mexican youth. They are also getting the education
free!
Gringo | 11:28 a.m. April 4, 2008
Again, they don't get those services some people claim that they do for
free. 1) if they have undocumment children and they go to school, they are also
paying their taxes, so it's not for free. 2) Medical services: I work in a
hospital. It's a fallacy that they get services for free. If they want to
apply for finalncial assistance, they have to have proof of filling taxes. 3)
Newborns in the US are citizens, they're not "illegals".
That's why they qualify for Medicaid.
Re: love one another | 12:01 p.m. April 4, 2008
Unless you can prove to me they're LDS, I'm assuming their Baptists.
C'mon, that's a pretty blanket assumption without anything to back it
up. Sure, some people posted comments that may be over the top, but we're
talking about a big issue and a lot of citizens have some legitimate beef. Your
assumption that they are mostly LDS is just as over the top as the comments your
griping about. Ironic that you complain about the very issue you are engaging
in.
Nelson | 12:11 p.m. April 4, 2008
Regardless of your position on the issue, it doesn't seem like Elder
Jensen's injunction to approach this issue "with compassion" is
registering.
Get over your stupidity | 12:08 p.m. April 4, 2008
Get over your stupidity. If what is patently obvious to over 80% of Americans
(polls have shown this), but not obvious to you, well maybe you are just
intellectually challenged. The mass immigration of people, blonde or brown
haired or otherwise, is a tremendous negative to our country. If we resort to
calling those of us who see it as a problem as bigots, then we will just have to
stop the conversation and agree to disagree. I'm through with people who
make that arguement. Make it all you want...its all you have! Logic, facts,
and that which stares you in the face support our view of things.
Fedup | 12:14 p.m. April 4, 2008
Good for who? The 80,000 americans who lost their jobs last month?
To: TO:LOVEN ONE ANOTHER | 12:27 p.m. April 4, 2008
I don't think that original post from Love One Another was focused on the
law of the land. I believe that person was focused on Christ-like love! And
even you are not LDS yourself I'm sure you can practice some Christ-like
love!
Biased article | 12:26 p.m. April 4, 2008
This was a terrible article to publish. It's clear disregard for common
sense and total reliance on econmic theory is just asking for the rhetoric to
get turned up a notch. I know on the surface it sounds like he's trying to
bring people together by saying, "Don't worry, be happy"...
"All is well with illegal imigration"... "Illegal immigration is
good for us".... etc. But the premise is so totally egg headed that it
comes off offensive to many who have been personally adversly affected by
illegal immigration (my business has been robbed before, but it has been robbed
at gunpoint twice this year, both times by groups of Mexicans who are now in our
jails).
I think publishing this article is just asking for more bigot-birds.
I think publishing this article is just asking for more bigot-birds.
AGREE W SS | 12:34 p.m. April 4, 2008
Comments those are FACTS
Re: To Gringo | 12:42 p.m. April 4, 2008
I speak with people every day who are legal U.S. residents and who haven't
filed their taxes in years, but now want to file so they can get a tax rebate
check. It isn't just illegals who are a drain on the system; there are
plenty of homegrown freeloaders as well.
We need a solution that deals with illegal immigrants compassionately.
We need a solution that deals with illegal immigrants compassionately.
RE:DISGUSTING | 1:00 p.m. April 4, 2008
One of the best and funniest comments I've read in a long while on here.
And sadly, true too.
Shocker | 12:59 p.m. April 4, 2008
What a shocker. A Mexican official is trying to convince us that the the mass
of unskilled illegal immigrants streaming over the border is good for the US.
It is a great deal for Mexico to be able to export their unemployment problem.
We need a solution that... | 12:57 p.m. April 4, 2008
We need a solution that puts the interests of legal residents of this country
FIRST! Period.
WOW! | 1:20 p.m. April 4, 2008
In practicing dishonesty, I just wasted close to an hour of my work day in
reading these comments. What entertainment! This country is in a handbasket!
Just think, in about 10 years' time, each of us can find some cheap land in
Mexico. We can print our own currency, and then, they can migrate South!
russ | 1:24 p.m. April 4, 2008
We need a big fence, and a big gate. Good grief, it can be done if...
Unbelievable... | 1:27 p.m. April 4, 2008
So, because they help to keep products cheap, you're willing to overlook
that fact that they are treated no better than slaves. Now THAT's
Christian.
The Irony of it All | 1:29 p.m. April 4, 2008
Because these are comments to an article posted by an LDS-owned newspaper, am I
safe to assume that most commenters here are LDS?
Members of the LDS church believe the Book of Mormon is true. The book claims that an offshoot of the House of Israel fled to the American continent to avoid persecution and destruction. They ultimately formed two societies: the Nephites and the Lamanites. The Nephites were white and prosperous; the Lamanites were not. Ultimately, the Nephites were killed off, but the Lamanites survived and are the principal ancestors of Native Americans and indigeous tribes in Mexico.
So, now we've got Lamanites from Mexico entering the United States and a whole bunch of LDS people, believing them to be from the House of Israel, one-upping each other on their bigoted and venomous comments about them.
If there was ever a group of people you would expect to approach the topic of Mexican immigration cautiously and compassionately, it would be members of the LDS church. But you find the opposite. I live in a large, diverse urban area with few LDS members. We embrace and love our hispanic brothers and sisters. Why can't LDS members do the same?
Members of the LDS church believe the Book of Mormon is true. The book claims that an offshoot of the House of Israel fled to the American continent to avoid persecution and destruction. They ultimately formed two societies: the Nephites and the Lamanites. The Nephites were white and prosperous; the Lamanites were not. Ultimately, the Nephites were killed off, but the Lamanites survived and are the principal ancestors of Native Americans and indigeous tribes in Mexico.
So, now we've got Lamanites from Mexico entering the United States and a whole bunch of LDS people, believing them to be from the House of Israel, one-upping each other on their bigoted and venomous comments about them.
If there was ever a group of people you would expect to approach the topic of Mexican immigration cautiously and compassionately, it would be members of the LDS church. But you find the opposite. I live in a large, diverse urban area with few LDS members. We embrace and love our hispanic brothers and sisters. Why can't LDS members do the same?
Patriot | 1:38 p.m. April 4, 2008
To those of you who confuse compassion and the command to support and sustain
the law. Get a grip! Your calling people the very names that you accuse them
of calling others. For the most part I have not seen much bigotry on these
posts. Not many have called anyone a racist name. Wake up you self-righteous
hypocrites and see what's happening and look a little deeper at why. The
fact of the matter is that we have had a belly full of illegal immigration. If
you will bother to look at the Numbers you will see how staggering it is in
comparison to our history. I don't want my country Latinized and I
don't wan't a billion people here in a hundred years. Yet, this is
exactly what is happening. Because of a certain portion of the population being
fooled by multi-culturalism we no longer are able to assimilate those from other
lands as quickly. We aren't called the melting pot because we allow
multiple cultures to exist. We are Americans because we created one culture and
one language for everyone to embrace. This is not happening any more. This is
why people are angry and upset.
The Other Irony | 1:44 p.m. April 4, 2008
We ("we" meaning American citizens) are in an uproar because others
("others" meaning people who are not American citizens) are entering
our beloved land through illegal means.
But "we" are only here because we forced the Native Americans off the land by gunpoint, the deliberate proliferation of disease, and slaughter. Were those means of entering the Americas legal? Good riddance, Mexicans are just coming here to work, not give us blankets tainted with smallpox!
But "we" are only here because we forced the Native Americans off the land by gunpoint, the deliberate proliferation of disease, and slaughter. Were those means of entering the Americas legal? Good riddance, Mexicans are just coming here to work, not give us blankets tainted with smallpox!
the usual hatred for people | 1:45 p.m. April 4, 2008
I see the usual pleasantries, love, and acceptance continue to abound on this
subject.
This is the place alright.
A place for what?
This is the place alright.
A place for what?
Patriot | 2:02 p.m. April 4, 2008
To "Irony of it All"
What is it that you don't understand about sovereign nations and the article of faith you so conveniently ignore that says you support the rule of law?
If you knew anything you would know that the Church recently recanted that Native Americans and indigeous people of Central and South America are the principal ancestors of the Lamanites. There were many other people who came before and after the Lamanites.
I would also suggest you study world history a little more in detail and educate yourself about what happens to great nations that allow themselves to be invaded by another culture and people. The point is, there not around very long after their invaded. Sounds to me like you've confused compassion with stupitidy and ignorance of history.
Please do us all a favor and educate yourself with your big metro area library and universities. A quick search on the internet and an open mind without the self-righteous indignation will allow you to have a more open mind. Try looking at the facts and being a little rational before you call other people names.
Enforcing the law and having compassion are not Mutually-Exclusive. Wake-Up!
What is it that you don't understand about sovereign nations and the article of faith you so conveniently ignore that says you support the rule of law?
If you knew anything you would know that the Church recently recanted that Native Americans and indigeous people of Central and South America are the principal ancestors of the Lamanites. There were many other people who came before and after the Lamanites.
I would also suggest you study world history a little more in detail and educate yourself about what happens to great nations that allow themselves to be invaded by another culture and people. The point is, there not around very long after their invaded. Sounds to me like you've confused compassion with stupitidy and ignorance of history.
Please do us all a favor and educate yourself with your big metro area library and universities. A quick search on the internet and an open mind without the self-righteous indignation will allow you to have a more open mind. Try looking at the facts and being a little rational before you call other people names.
Enforcing the law and having compassion are not Mutually-Exclusive. Wake-Up!
Enrique Ratso | 1:58 p.m. April 4, 2008
As with the illegal migration from Cuba to the USA, The mexican government is
not allowing the produtive and educated to leave.There are not many Doctors
,Scientist and such comming her to add toour productivity, Only the people that
they dont want to support!
To Patriot | 2:00 p.m. April 4, 2008
People said the same thing when massive waves or Germans and Irish started
showing up on our shores, but somehow, we survived. Last thing I checked,
America is still here.
You don't want multiculturalism? Fine. You and your friends can leave, and then we'll just have one culture, one that is free of bigotry.
There is a support group of like minded individuals concerned about the threat of multi-culturalism to our pristine society. They meet on Saturday nights. All you need to join is a white robe, a coned hat, rope, and a poor education.
You don't want multiculturalism? Fine. You and your friends can leave, and then we'll just have one culture, one that is free of bigotry.
There is a support group of like minded individuals concerned about the threat of multi-culturalism to our pristine society. They meet on Saturday nights. All you need to join is a white robe, a coned hat, rope, and a poor education.
Patriot | 2:18 p.m. April 4, 2008
To the commenter who addressed Patriot.
Yes, you must be ignorant of the fact that When I say multi-culturlism I don't mean multi-ethnic. Go educate yourself about what multi-culturalism means in todays world. It is basically that all cultures are good and worthy except for the white man's culture. It means that all cultures are superior to the current and often termed "White man's culture".
Yes, you are right that when the Germans and Irish and Italians came here people did say some of the same things. Guess what? We closed the Golden Door for about 40 years in order to do exactly what I advocate and assimilate those giant numbers of legal immigrants. We enacted laws some of which stand today in order to facilitate order and preserve our culture.
Calling me a racist with inferance to the KKK does not make you morally supperior or even correct in your assertions. Try using facts to support your arguments instead of name calling and maybe the rest of us will take you serious.
Yes, you must be ignorant of the fact that When I say multi-culturlism I don't mean multi-ethnic. Go educate yourself about what multi-culturalism means in todays world. It is basically that all cultures are good and worthy except for the white man's culture. It means that all cultures are superior to the current and often termed "White man's culture".
Yes, you are right that when the Germans and Irish and Italians came here people did say some of the same things. Guess what? We closed the Golden Door for about 40 years in order to do exactly what I advocate and assimilate those giant numbers of legal immigrants. We enacted laws some of which stand today in order to facilitate order and preserve our culture.
Calling me a racist with inferance to the KKK does not make you morally supperior or even correct in your assertions. Try using facts to support your arguments instead of name calling and maybe the rest of us will take you serious.
C1 | 2:26 p.m. April 4, 2008
I work in a service industry and all I know is that hispanic people are willing
to work and able to work. We don't even get white applicants for many of
our jobs. True, they are lower paying jobs but they offer medical benefits,
dental benefits, 401k, tuition reimbursement, etc. The fact is most white
people consider themselves too good to work as a housekeeper, janitor, etc.
John | 2:32 p.m. April 4, 2008
Not enough gasoline or crude for the population.
Shortages of natural gas, drives prices through the sky.
Brownouts and blackouts, as electricity becomes harder to produce and provide for all.
Not enough fresh water to go around.
Freeways and city streets packed to the max, making people go crazy, and costing them hundreds of hours of personal time over the years.
Crime statistics show serious increases.
Shortage of reasonable jobs.
Overcrowding in our schools.
A population that cannot even communicate with each other, because one side refuses to assimilate and become Americans and speak the language
National Debt that WILL destroy this nation.
Yes, by all means, lets let another 15 million people come here every year for the next ten years. That ought to just about put an end to the great experiment.
If you think illegal immigration, or just plain uncontrolled immigration is a good thing, you are no American
Shortages of natural gas, drives prices through the sky.
Brownouts and blackouts, as electricity becomes harder to produce and provide for all.
Not enough fresh water to go around.
Freeways and city streets packed to the max, making people go crazy, and costing them hundreds of hours of personal time over the years.
Crime statistics show serious increases.
Shortage of reasonable jobs.
Overcrowding in our schools.
A population that cannot even communicate with each other, because one side refuses to assimilate and become Americans and speak the language
National Debt that WILL destroy this nation.
Yes, by all means, lets let another 15 million people come here every year for the next ten years. That ought to just about put an end to the great experiment.
If you think illegal immigration, or just plain uncontrolled immigration is a good thing, you are no American
Immigration helps USA | 2:43 p.m. April 4, 2008
The country has always had its henny pennys who said the sky was falling with
regard to new immigrants to the USA. However immigration is one of the reason
why the US is a great nation.
You have people coming here who are the most goal oriented and optimistic of their respective nations coming here.
We are fortunate that we have not been able to get a handle on our immigration "problem", else our economy would not be as strong as it is.
You have people coming here who are the most goal oriented and optimistic of their respective nations coming here.
We are fortunate that we have not been able to get a handle on our immigration "problem", else our economy would not be as strong as it is.
C.Jones | 3:25 p.m. April 4, 2008
To facts and studies:
GO to the Center for Immigration Studies, the Heritage Foundation, Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR.com). The facts and statistics quoted in the forum today are all well known to anyone who has spent more than five minutes on the issue which you probably haven't.
Do your homework on the issue and you will be ready to call your Congressman and demand that he support the SAVE act. Illegal immigration is a cancer that is eating away at this country and is more serious than any other problem we face. You owe it to your kids and grandkids, their country is being stolen right out from under their noses.
The country of Spain needs 2 million immigrants to survive over the next 20 years and even though they have a common language and culture with Mexico they will not allow any Mexican immigrants. Why do you suppose that is? Answer for yourself. We are the only ones stupid enough to let this nonsense go on.
GO to the Center for Immigration Studies, the Heritage Foundation, Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR.com). The facts and statistics quoted in the forum today are all well known to anyone who has spent more than five minutes on the issue which you probably haven't.
Do your homework on the issue and you will be ready to call your Congressman and demand that he support the SAVE act. Illegal immigration is a cancer that is eating away at this country and is more serious than any other problem we face. You owe it to your kids and grandkids, their country is being stolen right out from under their noses.
The country of Spain needs 2 million immigrants to survive over the next 20 years and even though they have a common language and culture with Mexico they will not allow any Mexican immigrants. Why do you suppose that is? Answer for yourself. We are the only ones stupid enough to let this nonsense go on.
Someone that loves America | 3:19 p.m. April 4, 2008
Just saying it does not make it so. Our borders are not secure. The most common
immigrant to the United States is poor, uneducated and is breaking our laws.
Many use identity theft to get jobs and to purchase cars. There is a huge social
cost to educate the children of these people. Our government is passing our many
incentives to invite them here. We can�t take care of the
poor we have. Now we have more to fail with. Many in the world would like to be
on the list to come her but we take those come here by breaking our laws. Greed
is behind our government�s unwillingness to protect our
nation.
Lampa | 3:39 p.m. April 4, 2008
It's refreshing to read about a Mexican government official that
understands the long-term negative impact that illegal immigration will have on
Mexico. Many of Mexico's hardest-working and most ambitious citizens are
leaving Mexico. At the current pace of outmigration, some rural areas in 15
years will have a very small labor force that is incapable of economic
development. I'm glad to hear a Mexican government official talking about
retaining their human capital.
Mexico can start by eliminating the red tape for starting businesses and making reforms in business and labor. Similar to the United States, business can raise the standard of living for people when the government steps aside and lets people do their work.
Illegal immigration will be greatly reduced if Mexico can more fully develop its economy.
Hopefully, this Mr. Jones does well with the Mexican government. He seems to have some good ideas for Mexico that will also benefit Mexico.
Personally, I work in retail real estate. We're increasingly looking to do more business in Mexico, so I hope Mexico's economy starts to grow.
Mexico can start by eliminating the red tape for starting businesses and making reforms in business and labor. Similar to the United States, business can raise the standard of living for people when the government steps aside and lets people do their work.
Illegal immigration will be greatly reduced if Mexico can more fully develop its economy.
Hopefully, this Mr. Jones does well with the Mexican government. He seems to have some good ideas for Mexico that will also benefit Mexico.
Personally, I work in retail real estate. We're increasingly looking to do more business in Mexico, so I hope Mexico's economy starts to grow.
Patriot | 3:42 p.m. April 4, 2008
To: Immigration helps USA
I see that you have bought the propaganda hook, line and sinker.
Do a little research and ask a Southern Californian who has lived there for the last 40 years if they think uncontrolled illegal immigration is good for the USA.
Our Economy is not dependant on Illegal labor nor need it be to prosper. This is a myth sold by the Bush admin. and the rest of the business community to make you think that it is. Follow the money and you will see who is dependant on illegal labor. Why would you even wish our nation to be dependant on anything other than ourselves?
Unfortunatley, if you have children or grandchildren they will be the ones to pay for such foolishness as destroying a nation through dependancy instead of self-sufficiancy. Relying on foreigners for money and labor is foolishness.
I see that you have bought the propaganda hook, line and sinker.
Do a little research and ask a Southern Californian who has lived there for the last 40 years if they think uncontrolled illegal immigration is good for the USA.
Our Economy is not dependant on Illegal labor nor need it be to prosper. This is a myth sold by the Bush admin. and the rest of the business community to make you think that it is. Follow the money and you will see who is dependant on illegal labor. Why would you even wish our nation to be dependant on anything other than ourselves?
Unfortunatley, if you have children or grandchildren they will be the ones to pay for such foolishness as destroying a nation through dependancy instead of self-sufficiancy. Relying on foreigners for money and labor is foolishness.
Enrique Ratso | 3:47 p.m. April 4, 2008
To: Immigration helps USA .... And the sky is always blue in your narrow world?
quintak | 4:05 p.m. April 4, 2008
People focus on the simple facts, what about the ones that really matter. Since
the law was put into place in 1968 its been illegal for anyone without
permission to enter the country. Since then the number of population has grown
exponentially due to illegal immigration. We are now beyond the natural
sustainable limits, doesn't really matter what you do now. Every state
with the largest population of illegal immigrants don't have enough power,
schools, waste disposable plants, sewage plants, etc. Everywhere you go and
almost in every state we are suffering the impacts of illegal immigrants coming
here, eating food, taking advantage of free medical, social security and many
other programs or areas within the economic circle. More than $60 Billion
leaves the US and enters Mexico alone instead of being used in our own economy.
In short no matter how much of a positive spin you can make on this issue its
our own politicians who are to blame for the mess we are in. There are no real
benefits to this issue - all the negatives outweigh the positive.
Anti Bigots: | 4:26 p.m. April 4, 2008
I am white, born here not working, been denied jobs because I don't speak
Spanish. I am looking for work in fact I have an interview next week. If hired
it will mean for me - getting off of foodstamps, hopefully have medical
insurance and getting out of debt. If I had known that to get a job here in Utah
you had to be Hispanic/Latino I would have thought twice. I did take Spanish in
high school but have forgotten most of what I learned. So I guess I'm a
bigot too because I am white, need a job to pay bills and get off of foodstamps.
And I feel that whether or not I speak spanish should have nothing to do with
being employed. The Canadians that come here even for visits speak english
it's time that those from Central and South America learned to do so too
especially since they want to make this their home. I'm still trying to
figure why a refugee gets more government benefits than I do.
C. Jones | 4:30 p.m. April 4, 2008
TO: Immigration helps USA.
Legal immigration that is controlled and regulated with immigrants who are screened for disease, criminal background,and other potential problems IS a good thing. We must also screen immigrants and allow in only those who have something to contribute not simply those who are desperate and need taxpayer help to live.
You miss the point entirely when you lump legal and illegal immigrants in the same category. Illegal immigration is destructive and is bringing this nation down in a big way,that is the problem with all open borders advocates, you think that every crook, rapist, murderer or child molester in the world has a right to come to America. They don't! Uncontrolled immigration is more powerful than atomic weapons, ask the English and the Dutch, their respective countries are now gone forever.They admit that immigration was their achilles heel. People like you will bring the same thing on us.
Legal immigration that is controlled and regulated with immigrants who are screened for disease, criminal background,and other potential problems IS a good thing. We must also screen immigrants and allow in only those who have something to contribute not simply those who are desperate and need taxpayer help to live.
You miss the point entirely when you lump legal and illegal immigrants in the same category. Illegal immigration is destructive and is bringing this nation down in a big way,that is the problem with all open borders advocates, you think that every crook, rapist, murderer or child molester in the world has a right to come to America. They don't! Uncontrolled immigration is more powerful than atomic weapons, ask the English and the Dutch, their respective countries are now gone forever.They admit that immigration was their achilles heel. People like you will bring the same thing on us.
Racism is false argument! | 4:48 p.m. April 4, 2008
Racism and bigotry are favorite words used to make a false argument to confuse
the issue. I can support legal immigration and not support illegal immigration.
If the illegal component could be brought under control my feeling is it would
open the door for more legal immigration so more good honest people would
benefit.
Consider:
Too many Republicans let illegal immigration continue due to business interests
Too many Democrats push amnesty to increase political power since they know my doing this it will add another voting block to their base.
Too many ordinary citizens who have had to make a visit to an emergency room, been a victim of a crime or are involved with our schools end up being discriminated against as emergency rooms and schools cater to illegal immigrants and prisons are overloaded with illegal immigrants. It is up to people to fix this.
Consider:
Too many Republicans let illegal immigration continue due to business interests
Too many Democrats push amnesty to increase political power since they know my doing this it will add another voting block to their base.
Too many ordinary citizens who have had to make a visit to an emergency room, been a victim of a crime or are involved with our schools end up being discriminated against as emergency rooms and schools cater to illegal immigrants and prisons are overloaded with illegal immigrants. It is up to people to fix this.
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