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War urged against carbon dioxide

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liberal larry | 6:32 a.m. March 9, 2008
I can never figure out conservatives. If they need medical advice they seek a doctor who is the most experienced, brilliant, well educated person they can find. A person who distills the scientific knowledge of thousands of other well trained professionals and uses that knowledge to treat them. But when it comes to global warming they get their information from people like Paul Harvey and Rush Limbaugh and totally ignore the warnings of the vast majority of the qualified scientific community.
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Gerold W. Pratt | 8:18 a.m. March 9, 2008
�I just wanted to voice my opinion. I have been working all my life, with my nose to the grindstone, raising a family. I have a BS in Chemical Engineering. It has only been the last year that I have really been able to quench the burning thirst in my soul for information enough to be able to refute the greatest lie that I have ever been confronted with, that says that CO2 is causing global warming. Now, after this last year, I am finally able to do some rebuttals of my own, even though, I've always known that it was not true. Yes, I'm a denier, and proud of it. I am at the point now that when I hear of any person whosoever who believes in the CO2 lie, then I immediately hold suspicion for him, because if he doesn't have the insight to realize the truth about CO2, then he doesn't have the insight to know the truth of other things less obvious, and that especially holds true with my feelings regarding all the presidential candidates. I don't trust any of them, I don't trust Bill McKibben. He is calling for the destruction of our country, period.
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WarmongersRThem | 8:32 a.m. March 9, 2008
Let's see: The War on Poverty has resulted in more poverty. The War on Drugs has resulted in more drug abuse. And the War on Terror has resulted in more terrorists and terroristic acts.

And at a cost to our peace and prosperity (unless you're one of the soldiers or equipment vendors profiting from these wars).

Point: Can't the Left come up with a better moniker for their strategy to control all of us instead of another "war"?
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Lionheart | 7:34 a.m. March 9, 2008
When this hobgoblin of global warming fails to materialize, these people will move on to other scare tactics to try to fight capitalism and install forms of socialism which is their true cause.
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BasicGuy | 10:12 a.m. March 9, 2008
Why do we keep reporting on the global warming issue from the perspective of the fear-mongers and Gore-ites? We've turned the corner on the truth about global warming and Gore's campaign of fear that even he doesn't live by. Haven't DesNews reporters watched the BBC special called "The Great Global Warming Swindle" yet? Haven't you noticed recent reports about ice fields in Antarctica that have regained lost ground this winter? Come on. Wake up! Quit reporting on this issue like it's a forgone conclusion. Since when is the Deseret News a promoter of half truths and fear? Get the full story and report it or don't report anything at all.
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Laughable | 9:17 a.m. March 9, 2008
Carbon dioxide in earth's atmosphere is basically a trace molecule. Carbon dioxide is naturally produced by respiration. It is reverted to usable oxygen by photosynthesis. There IS NO CRISIS here!!!
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Smartest Person Alive | 10:32 a.m. March 9, 2008
A war on CO2 is a war against plant life. How would we like it if plants engaged in a war to deprive us of our oxygen?
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Just a Guy | 12:25 p.m. March 9, 2008
Global Warming is a Farce and always has been. No scientific proof to back it up.
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Stewart | 1:08 p.m. March 9, 2008
Don't forget that without global warming Earth would turn into a giant snowball(ice ball) which has happened in the past. 95% of the global warming is caused by water vapor while only about 1% is caused by CO2, the remaining caused by other trace gases. CO2 is also considered a trace gas. The plants would certainly benefit from more CO2, and produce more food, lumber, and other products, while CO2 would have to increase thousands of times to even be a significant factor in global warming. The Deseret Morning News is jumping on the propaganda bandwagon. By the way what ever happened to the ozone hole, and the global cooling of the late 70s?
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Shivering in the snow | 12:27 p.m. March 9, 2008
What's the right temperature for the earth...? Let's see, it's ....hmmm...maybe like the last ice age...or maybe like the medieval warming period (must have been those SUV's they were driving then), or maybe like the 1930's, or 1980's...hmmm...

I am sure the scientists have the right temperature figured out...why don't they tell us...

And by the way, 2007 saw the greatest drop in world temperatures ever recorded.
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Being Smart in Trying Times | 1:41 p.m. March 9, 2008
Plants trying to evolve to sequester trillions of tons of oxygen in some way analogous to humans hoping to sequester tens of billions of tons of carbon dioxide....Yea, RIGHT! Carbon sequestration is foolish enough.

I have worked with or near, some of the most dangerous chemicals in existence and have done considerable safety-engineering work in other areas. When the stakes are very, very high, the level of care and certitude brought to bear on a problem go sky-high. This is rationality itself.

Even though there are holes in the case for global warming, it is of such supreme importance that we must deal with it in the fastest, most cost-effective, and surest methods possible. It is smart, even without Global Warming.

Top-flight engineering and economic analysis are key to the best solutions.

Unfortunately, our politicians and media react to hysteria, not sound engineering judgment. This hysteria and Utah-visioning is driving us toward money-wasting non-solutions on many fronts while, (boring) sound engineering is ignored.

We have many huge problems facing us. I believe we must walk the most hazardous of high-wire-acts ever, just to survive. There are lots of problems jiggling that high-wire, too. Pretty high stakes indeed!
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itsjustme | 12:53 p.m. March 9, 2008
In order to eliminate a large amount of carbon dioxide emissions, I believe that all life on this planet that breathes air should just stop doing so. That would teach us all a valuable lesson. (It would not matter that there would be no one around to see the results, because there would not be any difference in the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere between now and then.) The people that blame man-kind for "global warming" and "green-house gas" give humans way too much credit. All you need to do is go outside in the daytime and look up. There you will see the cause of "global warming".

Every time a volcano erupts somewhere on our planet, that one event spews more toxins and so-called "green-house gas" into the atmosphere then man-kind has since the Industrial Revolution began over a century ago.

The earth goes through cycles of warming and cooling, and has done so since the beginning of time. And all we can rightfully do is blame the sun.
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MoJules | 1:09 p.m. March 9, 2008
My husband has a disease in the MD family which weakens his muscles and he has lung weakness, this results in his retaining CO2. But the sad thing is, he has been feeding the problem by lack of information, he is on a c-pap at night set at 20, with 4.5 O2 bleed in, he also is on O2 when he does things. So what is suppose to be helping him, has actually been harming him, he is going to be put on a bi-pap now. One thing that we as able bodied people can do is breathe out. As for the earth, I think sometimes too much information is too much, everything I do these days is going to kill me, yet my life expectancy is higher than ever. I do believe that we need to treat the earth kindly, but I also believe we need to treat people kindly. Many of these "findings" have existed for ever, we just know how to find it now and so scientists make is sound like it is the first time this has happened, right.
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no problem | 1:30 p.m. March 9, 2008
Is China going to participate in our "war against Carbon Dioxide"?
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Skeptic | 1:33 p.m. March 9, 2008
Like others, I'm alarmed that the Deseret News continues to push the anthropogenic global-warming panic button. Amy Choate-Nielsen, and Bill McKibben need to get current on their research. There is ample evidence, from literally hundreds of research studies, that we are in the midst of a warming period, yes, but one that began roughly in 1850, at the end of the Little Ice Age. Is is human-caused, a result of our CO2 emissions? Not likely. The current consensus is that cyclical variations in solar activity, which are fairly predictable, has this earth on roughly a 1,500-year warming-cooling cycle. Compared to the power of the sun to affect our climate, whatever measly things we do pale in comparison.

It doesn't surprise me that the woman or man on the street would believe warming is human-caused--the media says it is! But you'd have to judge for yourself what would cause a scientist to ignore all the human temperature records, as well as all the geological and biological temperature proxies (data from tree rings, deep ice cores, stalagmites, seabed sediments, tree lines and pollen) that amazingly all confirm the interval and timeline of earth's global 1,500-year climate cycle. Go figure....
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MetricWrench | 2:41 p.m. March 9, 2008
The most abundant byproduct of hydrocarbon combustion is water vapor. The amount of CO2 is small by comparison. Why don't they attack water vapor for the green house gas that it is. About 70% of what comes out of the tailpipe of your car is H2O, the rest is CO2 and trace gases. The reason that nobody attacks H2O is because it would sound stupid and nobody would beleive them, then how could they make any money speaking about it at symposiums.

Another problem is computer modeling. No computer model on climate or temperture has ever withstood the test of time. This applies to the computer models concerning global warming as well as the computer models concerning the 7 day forecast for any given city. When they can accurately tell what the temperture will be 3 days from now then they might be able to tell what the temperture will be 30 yeas from now.

These guys don't even know enough to know that they know anything.
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liberal larry | 1:38 p.m. March 9, 2008
I encourage all of the brilliant, global warming denial, geniuses, who have posted here, to send their insightful ideas to peer reviewed, scientific journals. I'm sure that the slow witted "experts" will read the articles, slap their foreheads and exclaim "volcanos, water vapor, cattle flatulence, why didn't we think of these things? These shrinking glaciers, and dying coral reefs, are all part of the liberal fear agenda! No more "Journal of Climate Science" for me, from now on I'm listening to Paul Harvey for the latest on global warming research."
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EndIsNeigh | 2:56 p.m. March 9, 2008
The US government expanded Daylight Savings Time to "save energy." However, research indicates that eliminating Daylight Savings Time could go a long way to solving the problem of Global Warming.

The California Energy Commission says that "Daylight Saving Time "makes" the sun "set" one hour later. They ran the numbers and have determined that if DST is in effect half the year for an hour a day, that is fully 1/48th of our total exposure to the sun that could be eliminated with the canceling of Daylight Saving Time, almost 2% of solar heat gain annually. That's huge!

So why did the Government really extend DST? Because of AlGore, who is in the back-pocket of the powerful solar energy lobby and alternative energy corporations.

Take Back the Night and Fight DST. The last thing we need right now is an extra hour of sunlight.
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Lionheart | 3:14 p.m. March 9, 2008
To Being Smart in Trying Times. We must "walk the most hazardous of highwire-acts ever, just to survive"? 1. Individual humans will not survive, WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE! What a novel idea this seems to be to so many. 2. Even in mass die-offs in a species, the hardiest and most adaptable survive to repopulate. 3. I don't think the world can get rid of humans if it shook like a dog trying to shake off fleas. Humans are here to stay. 4. After many years of listening to the latest 'end of world scare stories', I have come to believe, that it is the fear of individual death that causes humans to buy into these scenarios, they can't believe they are going to die and the world goes on, so they postulate that the world will come to an end, not them. Just a thought.
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russ | 2:39 p.m. March 9, 2008
Liberal Larry: hang in there. It is hard to talk science and reviewed publications and research with people who obviously work with a different paradigm.

There are changes occuring on this planet. The changes are indicative of a steady problem: global warming. It is a complex issue, but it can be understood with patience, an open mind, and lots of reading reading reading.

Hang in there, Liberal Larry.
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