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UK Chrissie | 5:35 a.m. March 1, 2008
Actually...just had to say...there is nothing written in the priesthood manual
about HAVING to be buried rather than cremated.
Wonder if this film will be shown in the UK?
Wonder if this film will be shown in the UK?
Milton in Florida | 7:09 a.m. March 1, 2008
"Good Mormon in Good Standing"
"Meat being transported"
"Kathy Bates openly gay"
Repeat after me........."A G E N C Y"
THAT is what every human has............"in good standing or not".
"Meat being transported"
"Kathy Bates openly gay"
Repeat after me........."A G E N C Y"
THAT is what every human has............"in good standing or not".
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Clark | 8:12 a.m. March 1, 2008
No LDS-themed movie is going to be 100% accurate in its portrayal of LDS people
and culture. But having said that, I'm still very interested in seeing this
movie.
The way I see it, "Bonneville" looks a whole lot better than "September Dawn."
The way I see it, "Bonneville" looks a whole lot better than "September Dawn."
Tex | 8:14 a.m. March 1, 2008
I'm starting to get the feeling lately that a lot of things that we have
all thought were doctrine are actually custom, and western/Utah custom at
that.
I would put cremation in that category, along with lots of other things that have nothing to do with core doctrine.
The Book of Mormon says that Christ's power will yield a full restoration, which doesn't seem any more problematic if the body was burried or cremated.
I would put cremation in that category, along with lots of other things that have nothing to do with core doctrine.
The Book of Mormon says that Christ's power will yield a full restoration, which doesn't seem any more problematic if the body was burried or cremated.
Linda | 8:22 a.m. March 1, 2008
To Ron, perhaps you need to go to one of the many wards in India, where it is
mandatory to be cremated at death, and tell them that they are obviously NOT
good Mormons in good standing if they follow the law of the land. Wow! As a
Mormon who grew up in Canada, but now lives in the Salt Lake Valley, I am
constantly apalled at the small-minded, BAD examples of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-Day Saints. When President Kimball said, "Every member a
Missionary", and President Hinkley reiterated that message, they were
saying, essentially, that whatever example you give as a member of the Church,
you are visible to all, especially to non-LDS people. And by being a petty,
small-minded, and judgemental Mormon, you drive away MORE people from
investigating the Church than you will ever encourage to investigate it. When
will members learn that?
Picky-Picky | 8:35 a.m. March 1, 2008
Such an outpouring of drivle, the excrement of small minds. Who really cares
about it. What about the movie... story, plot, acting... Come-on folks get past
the trivial.
jph1223 | 8:44 a.m. March 1, 2008
We had this lady who, when she joined the Church, weighed about 600 lbs. When
she died she weighed about 1,000 lbs. She had a crush on me. I am divorced and
she was obviously single. When she died I knew I would be asked to be a
pallbearer. I fasted, prayed and pleaded with Heavenly Father that she would be
cremated. I started lifting weights to get in shape, but 3 days is just not
enough time. There was talk of renting a forklift, but in the end she,
thankfully, was cremated. May she rest in peace.
GladImInAZ | 9:07 a.m. March 1, 2008
In Nephi, you have a mother of four who was convicted of having sex with more
than 5 BOYS, and we argue about cremation?? You've GOT to be kidding me.!
There are a heck of a lot more serious issues to deal with, than a PG rated
movie.!
Grouchy! | 9:16 a.m. March 1, 2008
Why change the whole subject on a story when ONE person decides to start
correcting the spelling on bloggers. Perhaps this person had very bad spelling
skill once upon a time in his/her life, so now they feel obligated to criticize
everyone else. While reading each post I never take the time to look at
someone�s post or spelling that closely. I suppose I read
through them to fast--- NOW BACK TO THE SUBJECT!
I like the article. I am one who firmly believes cremation is wrong. I think it is nice for a family to visit a loved ones grave on occasion.
I like the article. I am one who firmly believes cremation is wrong. I think it is nice for a family to visit a loved ones grave on occasion.
Funny thing is... | 9:24 a.m. March 1, 2008
If the Church says it is not encouraged, and that means just don't do it,
what have you all to say about marriage between the races is not encouraged?
Seems a lot of energy wasted on the poor cremated guy.
ajarizona | 9:43 a.m. March 1, 2008
Bruce R. McKonkie once stated:
"The Church has no need for the Fanatic."
Honestly, reading the nonsensical remarks here is
just too much to take sometimes.
The fanatics posting here should remember their idiocy is now revealed worldwide.
My Mission President required us to study the lessons, standard works and for the inevitable, occasional Missionary who just didn't quite get it, he kept on hand the book;
"How to win friends and influence people".
Sure enough, every now and then he would have to tell a few missionaries to stop all studies until they finished this book. I suggest some of you here do the same.
My Father in law requested his remains be donated to the U of U for medical research, before passing away from cancer. As a matter of formality the remains are cremated and returned to the families, sometimes
years later. A standard internment would be impractical.
I'm sure there is a special place set aside for the service this great World War 2 veteran gave us all and is even now, serving mankind, in death.
The letter of the law killeth, the spirit of the law giveth life.
Mellow out people.
ajarizona
"The Church has no need for the Fanatic."
Honestly, reading the nonsensical remarks here is
just too much to take sometimes.
The fanatics posting here should remember their idiocy is now revealed worldwide.
My Mission President required us to study the lessons, standard works and for the inevitable, occasional Missionary who just didn't quite get it, he kept on hand the book;
"How to win friends and influence people".
Sure enough, every now and then he would have to tell a few missionaries to stop all studies until they finished this book. I suggest some of you here do the same.
My Father in law requested his remains be donated to the U of U for medical research, before passing away from cancer. As a matter of formality the remains are cremated and returned to the families, sometimes
years later. A standard internment would be impractical.
I'm sure there is a special place set aside for the service this great World War 2 veteran gave us all and is even now, serving mankind, in death.
The letter of the law killeth, the spirit of the law giveth life.
Mellow out people.
ajarizona
Puzzeled | 9:37 a.m. March 1, 2008
Didn't anyone find it more than a little strange that this movie about
Mormons should come out during a political campaign where they thought a Mormon
would be running for President??? My husband and I honestly wonder if there
will be anything in the movie that doesn't try to put down the church. We
won't be going to see it until we read some reviews written by good church
members.
judi | 10:00 a.m. March 1, 2008
Never mind the cremation issue. This disrespectful-to-the-dead plot isn't
representative of the doctrine I was taught about the sacredness of the body (or
rather its elements -- in whatever condition or however many pieces). I
won't watch this movie and am turned off by the "lds" movie
makers that want to spread the word by showing how worldly Mormons can be and
that maybe Mormons aren't as "bad" as they're cracked up to
be, but can be just as crude and disrespectful and irreverent as the Average
Joe.
By the way, I'm not from Utah. Where I'm from Mormons don't want the world to see us as incompatible with our beliefs (gambling, drinking coffee, poking fun at the dead, etc.).
We are taught to hold ourselves up as a standard to the world as opposed to being popular with the world.
When we lower our standards to gain acceptance, we gain only disdain because of our hypocracy.
By the way, I'm not from Utah. Where I'm from Mormons don't want the world to see us as incompatible with our beliefs (gambling, drinking coffee, poking fun at the dead, etc.).
We are taught to hold ourselves up as a standard to the world as opposed to being popular with the world.
When we lower our standards to gain acceptance, we gain only disdain because of our hypocracy.
Dennnis | 10:22 a.m. March 1, 2008
For those of you freaking out about cremation, I recall an article several years
ago in the DesNews about then Pres. James E. Faust dedicating a Crematorium in
Sandy.
Hope that didn't cause him to lose his stature in Utah!(or his recommend).
Hope that didn't cause him to lose his stature in Utah!(or his recommend).
Anonymous | 10:45 a.m. March 1, 2008
You know if people would look at this film as just a movie, not everything is
factual and it is just entertainment.It reminds me of the public just picking
things apart because it is about Mormans. If we live the way our God and our
prophet tells us and yes do our homework we will know what is the right facts to
live by. Just view this film with an open mind and heart and that it is surely
clean and not like the other imorality and language on screen.
Evelyn | 11:03 a.m. March 1, 2008
I am the only member of the Church in my family.
I have been encouraged throughout the years to love my family and not become adamant as to cause a disagreement with religious issues. This has help me to keep the communication open and I have shared many wonderful moments about the Church with them.
My mother had a beautiful funeral in her church and was buried....ten years later my father had a beautiful graveside service and was cremated...his ashes were placed in her burial plot. I do know that the cost of burial is outrageous and sometimes cremation is the only choice a family can make. This movie is for entertainment and we should be thankful that this industry is somewhat interested in using
"Mormon" people in their story telling. We are a strong people and "know" our values. I live with this each day in my home and I strive for peace and harmony. One thing more....I live in California and I read this paper each day....I am greatly amused as to the reference of SLC..Provo..Utah Mormon as compared to the rest of the Mormon world.
I have been encouraged throughout the years to love my family and not become adamant as to cause a disagreement with religious issues. This has help me to keep the communication open and I have shared many wonderful moments about the Church with them.
My mother had a beautiful funeral in her church and was buried....ten years later my father had a beautiful graveside service and was cremated...his ashes were placed in her burial plot. I do know that the cost of burial is outrageous and sometimes cremation is the only choice a family can make. This movie is for entertainment and we should be thankful that this industry is somewhat interested in using
"Mormon" people in their story telling. We are a strong people and "know" our values. I live with this each day in my home and I strive for peace and harmony. One thing more....I live in California and I read this paper each day....I am greatly amused as to the reference of SLC..Provo..Utah Mormon as compared to the rest of the Mormon world.
Gentile | 11:01 a.m. March 1, 2008
I say: DUST TO DUST. It will all come together one way or another.
Bob | 11:16 a.m. March 1, 2008
Snelgroves on 21st was the finest Creamatorium I've ever been to, but the
Creamations that they used to make at The Ice Cream Factory at Trolley Square
were beyond belief!
PS-I don't care how old she is--Jessica Lange is a babe.
PS-I don't care how old she is--Jessica Lange is a babe.
Alan | 11:11 a.m. March 1, 2008
To judi | 10:00 a.m.,
The most respectful thing that can be done to a body is to honor the wishes of the deceased. In the case of this movie, the deceased requested cremation. He had every right to do so. It is NOT disrespectful.
I wonder how "respectful" you think it is when the bodies of famous people are dug up and distributed as souvenirs? The bones of this Saint, or the remains of that Egyptian Prince? Perhaps we should dig up President Hinckley's remains and auction it off on eBay for a fundraiser! Can you imagine how much someone would pay for that right hand of his that he was always waving for emphasis in his talks? Or what about his brain? Einstein's brain was saved and carved up for researchers for 50 years after he died. Perhaps we could do some research on Hinckley's brain and see where the "revelation" piece is?! Or is it any better to turn the resting place of a famous person into a shrine?!
But with cremation, these are not issues. The body is reduced to ashes and spread out so there is no fanatic stuff. It is MORE RESPECTFUL.
The most respectful thing that can be done to a body is to honor the wishes of the deceased. In the case of this movie, the deceased requested cremation. He had every right to do so. It is NOT disrespectful.
I wonder how "respectful" you think it is when the bodies of famous people are dug up and distributed as souvenirs? The bones of this Saint, or the remains of that Egyptian Prince? Perhaps we should dig up President Hinckley's remains and auction it off on eBay for a fundraiser! Can you imagine how much someone would pay for that right hand of his that he was always waving for emphasis in his talks? Or what about his brain? Einstein's brain was saved and carved up for researchers for 50 years after he died. Perhaps we could do some research on Hinckley's brain and see where the "revelation" piece is?! Or is it any better to turn the resting place of a famous person into a shrine?!
But with cremation, these are not issues. The body is reduced to ashes and spread out so there is no fanatic stuff. It is MORE RESPECTFUL.
Anonymous | 11:17 a.m. March 1, 2008
Last time I saw Jessica Lange in a movie was the Scot- Rob Roy. A very vile
movie.
Bob | 11:24 a.m. March 1, 2008
OH--I forgot. That one ice cream place on 7th East just north of Liberty
Park--that used to be a great place to take a date for some cream-mating. True,
some of the creamations were a little bland, but the ice cream itself
was---well---shall I say it? To die for.
To Judy | 11:22 a.m. March 1, 2008
you hit the nail on the head. The portrayal of Kathy Bates as a LDS woman who
defies the Word of Wisdom by drinking coffee and then defends herself by stating
that she is the one who will answer for it in His own time...is a perfect
example of what you say is incompatible with our beliefs. Then, Joan Allen, who
plays the more over the top LDS woman, while wating for Jessica Lang and Kathy
Bates (who are gambling at a roulette table) is given a $1 coin from a
prostitute and told to 'go ahead, put it in that machine'. After
several hesitations and moral conflict guess what.....yep she put it in the
machine. Again, incompatible with our beliefs. These are women who presumably
have spent most of, if not all of, their lives in the Church and present a poor
example of LDS women at the expense of being 'accepted' by the non LDS
audience. It was an uneasy movie.
happy | 11:50 a.m. March 1, 2008
To MOVIE?
You are cruel.
You are cruel.
I want... | 12:20 p.m. March 1, 2008
When I die I want to be buried deep into the grown. I want a headstone that says
I was a nice lady with an angel topping it. Also closed casket with--NO
VIEWING!!!! I don't want people looking down at my face saying what a
horrible makeup job nor listening to my belly gurgle. GEEZ!
I like this article made me do a lot of thinking!
I like this article made me do a lot of thinking!
Haley | 12:21 p.m. March 1, 2008
To "To Judy | 11:22 a.m."
You have got to be kidding me. Do you honestly look to Hollywood (or Hollywood wannabes) to present good examples of the LDS faith? How foolish can you possibly be?
The REALITY is that, with activity rates the way they are, MORE MORMON WOMEN DRINK COFFEE THAN DON'T! And MORE MORMON WOMEN GAMBLE THAN DON'T!
Get over yourself and quit condemning everything you see because you are an overly self-righteous prude.
You have got to be kidding me. Do you honestly look to Hollywood (or Hollywood wannabes) to present good examples of the LDS faith? How foolish can you possibly be?
The REALITY is that, with activity rates the way they are, MORE MORMON WOMEN DRINK COFFEE THAN DON'T! And MORE MORMON WOMEN GAMBLE THAN DON'T!
Get over yourself and quit condemning everything you see because you are an overly self-righteous prude.
Ralph | 12:38 p.m. March 1, 2008
Look to Jesus for example and have a Jewish burial.
Agreed | 1:02 p.m. March 1, 2008
This sounds like a great move. I will wait to see this on DVD but it sounds
really great.
As for "Caroline on Cape Cods" comments I completely agree with you.
We do not need to criticize everyone. Please stop the criticism
As for "Caroline on Cape Cods" comments I completely agree with you.
We do not need to criticize everyone. Please stop the criticism
Kelley J. | 1:01 p.m. March 1, 2008
I grew up in an area founded by and dominated by Mormons, and these women are
exactly the kind of women I knew. They are like this today! They drank/drink
coffee once in a while (although they hid/hide it from their husbands and the
ward leaders), and take road trips to Las Vegas where they "let their hair
down," including a little gambling and perhaps a male show for
entertainment. Then they come back home to Utah, prepare their Relief Society
lessons and Gospel Doctrine lessons, and put on the happy face for their
neighbors and ward members. This movie is as accurate as I can imagine!
Donna | 1:08 p.m. March 1, 2008
I am thrilled to have a movie made about Mormons. I enjoy seeing any movie
about people and why they do the things they do, I love movies about women,
jews, baptists, Russians and anyone else that can teach me something about the
children of God. During the Romney race my SIL wrote to ask a question, I was
thrilled as my family has never asked anything about my religion...on either
side. Of course! Know what she asked? Why can't Mormons eat chocolate on
Sunday? We have a long way to go in letting people know what we are
like.....anything that encourages dialog (except for these stupid discussions on
cremation....there is no policy, most Mormons just don't....no other
reason) I wonder why Jessica thought of Utah and Mormons after the movie was
over?
Donna
Donna
LDS Robots | 1:41 p.m. March 1, 2008
I know not all LDS are this way - but I am amused when I (very often) run into
Mormons who literally cannot take out their trash if their leaders or some
policy/doctrine somewhere hasn't commented on it. I'm afraid Joseph
Smith's comment that "we give them correct principles and they govern
themselves" is as out dated for many in the Church as polygamy and
ankle-length undies. The norm for today is "when the leaders speak the
thinking has been done." Think about it - how many things do you do or not
do in your everyday life that is one way or another tied to what you have been
told or think you have been told as you grew up in the Church? I'm guessing
it is a very high percentage. The interesting part of that is that the
doctrines/teachings/policies of the Church have gone through constant change
during the history of the Church. And yet many members are still almost
paralyzed in their inability to act without Church guidance.
Anonymous | 1:40 p.m. March 1, 2008
Hey Haley! Right On! You are absolutely correct. I early dislike the
self-righteous almighty group too. Just be happy this gal isn't your next
door neighbour... Yikesters!
I think Hollywood makes a lot of sleezy movies! I am planing on going to see a PG-13 movie tonight and I am crossing my fingers that it isn't all trash. It happens to be about one of my ancestors so I'm really wanting to see this film. I'm a bit leary though, Hollywood has a bad influence on people and can really trash history as well. I'm not certain on this Jessica Lange movie...I may go see it??
I think Hollywood makes a lot of sleezy movies! I am planing on going to see a PG-13 movie tonight and I am crossing my fingers that it isn't all trash. It happens to be about one of my ancestors so I'm really wanting to see this film. I'm a bit leary though, Hollywood has a bad influence on people and can really trash history as well. I'm not certain on this Jessica Lange movie...I may go see it??
Ask Your Neighbor | 1:43 p.m. March 1, 2008
Mormons would not run to their neighbor to ask whether they should cremate a
loved one or inquire about any other number of very important and personal
matters - until that neighbor is called as the Bishop and then suddenly he is
the answer to all things personal and important. Strange!
curious reader | 1:57 p.m. March 1, 2008
I think Big Al at 12:36 nailed this whole conversation on the head....
LVIS | 2:14 p.m. March 1, 2008
Some remarks from The New Era by Spencer J. Palmer, former Chairman, Asian
Studies, BYU, and former president of the Korean Mission:
"In today�s world there are local laws in some countries that prohibit burial and encourage cremation; some metropolitan areas in Asia are so crowded that gravesites are a precious commodity and are outrageously expensive. Funerals and burials are prohibitive in cost to some of the most faithful members of the Church in that part of the world. Hence, although I personally prefer embalming and burial and although it has been the pattern followed by Israel, there appears to be no prohibition against cremation in the scriptures or in the theology of the Church.
And, from Roger R. Keller, associate professor of Church history and doctrine at BYU: Generally, Latter-day Saints in the Western world have felt that nothing should be done which is destructive to the body. That should be left to nature. Church leaders have counseled that only in unusual circumstances or where required by law should cremation take place (re: General Handbook, 1989).
So, make up your own mind.
Just FWIW.
"In today�s world there are local laws in some countries that prohibit burial and encourage cremation; some metropolitan areas in Asia are so crowded that gravesites are a precious commodity and are outrageously expensive. Funerals and burials are prohibitive in cost to some of the most faithful members of the Church in that part of the world. Hence, although I personally prefer embalming and burial and although it has been the pattern followed by Israel, there appears to be no prohibition against cremation in the scriptures or in the theology of the Church.
And, from Roger R. Keller, associate professor of Church history and doctrine at BYU: Generally, Latter-day Saints in the Western world have felt that nothing should be done which is destructive to the body. That should be left to nature. Church leaders have counseled that only in unusual circumstances or where required by law should cremation take place (re: General Handbook, 1989).
So, make up your own mind.
Just FWIW.
LMBO...in Cali | 2:21 p.m. March 1, 2008
Bwaaaahaaaahaaaahaa...stop it, it hurts!! I think this banter is more
entertaining than any movie I could ever watch! All of you have seriously made
my day...how absurd and inane the comments posted really are! Hehehehe; I
can't stop laughing...and I thought there might be relevant information in
regards to whether the movie was worth a hugely overpriced $7-9 pricetag to sit
in a theater or just a good net-flix night? Thanks for the entertainment!
Emme | 3:13 p.m. March 1, 2008
Thanks for great Saturday afternoon reading. It has made me cringe...but also
chuckle. Laughter is the best medicine to make anyone's day a better one.
To LVIS | 4:34 p.m. March 1, 2008
You have given a very nice example why every member of the Church should once
and for all start thinking for themselves. It might be frightening at first.
Take baby steps - like wearing an extra clip on earring so you can quickly take
it off if you encounter someone in your ward. But slowly you will start to make
decisions - gasp - on your very own. I know you can do it!!
IMNLDSMOM | 4:37 p.m. March 1, 2008
Hey, I'm just glad that the movie didn't make these women the three
polygamist wives of the dead husband. At least someone in Hollywood is finally
conceding that we Mormons might actually be monogomous! It's a step in the
right direction.
Haven't seen the movie, but if they put us in an unflattering light it's either because of ignorance or malice. If it's malice, well, no one throws rocks at a tree unless there's fruit on it. And with malice it's the one time when it's better to receive than to give.
p.s. My mom wants to be cremated. I don't. (Mostly because I'd like to stay alive.) A lot of people at the WTC were tragically and involuntarily cremated on 9/11. Every one of them and every one of us will be resurrected, thanks to our Savior, Jesus Christ. And then we'll each be accountable for our hearts and our choices (including how we treat our blog "neighbors" in forums like this) and come to appreciate the mercy available through Christ's atonement.
Haven't seen the movie, but if they put us in an unflattering light it's either because of ignorance or malice. If it's malice, well, no one throws rocks at a tree unless there's fruit on it. And with malice it's the one time when it's better to receive than to give.
p.s. My mom wants to be cremated. I don't. (Mostly because I'd like to stay alive.) A lot of people at the WTC were tragically and involuntarily cremated on 9/11. Every one of them and every one of us will be resurrected, thanks to our Savior, Jesus Christ. And then we'll each be accountable for our hearts and our choices (including how we treat our blog "neighbors" in forums like this) and come to appreciate the mercy available through Christ's atonement.
Leonard | 5:04 p.m. March 1, 2008
I love this church!! Where else can you meet so much diversity among a people
claiming to be living by common, revealed doctrine. The phrase "seek truth
in ALL things" comes to mind quite often, and the thought that we're
all trying to reach the Celestial level of the Father's kingdom causes me
to shudder with anxiety. I may perfect myself as far as doctrine is concerned,
but I'm not sure I'll be able to live with the "fanatical"
personalities exhibited by some of the faithful in this life. To repeat the
quote entered a few hours ago, "the Church does not need a bunch of
fanatics." Leave that attitude to the evangelicals--or Taliban.
We're in this life together for the duration. Live IN the world, but train
yourselves to absorb the truth and reject that which is not true. You'll
learn more, your experiences will be sweeter, and you won't stand out as
someone no one wants to associate with--or learn the gospel from.
shocked! | 5:10 p.m. March 1, 2008
First time I have been on here and I saw this by accident. Thought maybe it
might be interesting to hear what LDS people had to say, I think I was wrong -
after reading all of the posted messages, I don't think I will ever be back
here again. I hear this kind of talk every where else, I really was shocked to
see everyone talking and judging others so horribly. And may I add - LDS people!
One of the main things Pres. Hinckley taught was that we are no better than
anyone else. That is one of the LDS as a group - one of the biggest problems.
We need to quit acting better than others. We are all trying (I hope) to do our
best. Please don't criticize someone because they are on a different level
than you. Maybe we all need to look over ourselves before judging others.
"Homework" responds!! | 6:07 p.m. March 1, 2008
Uh, guys. Like some have pointed out, I never said NOT accelerating the body to
ashes was official church doctrine. It might be something the Union for
decomposing life forms is against, but it's not a common practice, an
exception to the LDS rule like some have pointed out. And when was Idaho
considered a foreign country in regards to "in some countries"
cremation being the only choice. My comment was only to point out another
needless Hollywood spotlight of the LDS exception subliminally embracing the
Mormon stereotype.
Speaking of getting your facts straight, RE:SLMG, brother Joseph actually said, "we teach them CORRECT principles, and they govern themselves". Just like the movie, a little homework could have helped.
I saw the movie at the premiere in Scottsdale. Though the premiere was in Arizona, Jessica Lange couldn't stop talking about Bryce Canyon and the beauty of southern Utah. Yes, it's a bonafide Chick Flik but I thought the premise could have made more of a distinction of cremation and the LDS character like they did with gambling in the movie. My opinion from a script writing point of view not necessarily LDS doctrine. Better homework on LDS doctrine, better script.
Speaking of getting your facts straight, RE:SLMG, brother Joseph actually said, "we teach them CORRECT principles, and they govern themselves". Just like the movie, a little homework could have helped.
I saw the movie at the premiere in Scottsdale. Though the premiere was in Arizona, Jessica Lange couldn't stop talking about Bryce Canyon and the beauty of southern Utah. Yes, it's a bonafide Chick Flik but I thought the premise could have made more of a distinction of cremation and the LDS character like they did with gambling in the movie. My opinion from a script writing point of view not necessarily LDS doctrine. Better homework on LDS doctrine, better script.
IMNLDSMOM2 | 6:21 p.m. March 1, 2008
Reading all these posts reminds me of Brigham Young, who wrote in someone's
autograph book: "To live with saints in heaven is bliss and glory. To live
with saints on earth is another story." :)
Our family moved to another state where we live among good people of many faiths (including many LDS). We don't see the constant battle between the "darn you to heck" busybodies and the "don't judge me" rebels reflected in these blogs.
A lot of people just try to do the right things for the right reasons, and they're not perfect but they are doing their honest best.
Our family moved to another state where we live among good people of many faiths (including many LDS). We don't see the constant battle between the "darn you to heck" busybodies and the "don't judge me" rebels reflected in these blogs.
A lot of people just try to do the right things for the right reasons, and they're not perfect but they are doing their honest best.
Dad/Bob | 6:30 p.m. March 1, 2008
First - Why would a producer choose in 2006 to label the 3 women as Mormons in
the 1st place? He must see something in that label that will sell tickets.
Hmmm. 2nd - What happy Idahoan would want even his ashes to go to
California? Weird plot! Weird must sell.
Dad/Bob again | 6:28 p.m. March 1, 2008
PS No sane Idahoan owns a convertible! California thinking again. The whole
plot sounds suspect to me.
Kayla | 6:41 p.m. March 1, 2008
My Dad was cremated, we have his ashes in the closet. The family can
"visit" him anytime they want, rain or shine. If we want to take a
trip to the coast, Dad can come along for the ride. It's a win-win
situation.
Anonymous | 9:40 p.m. March 1, 2008
The movie is pure fiction. Any sane person driving from Idaho to California
would avoid driving through Utah.
Jessica | 1:56 a.m. March 2, 2008
What a bunch of idiot comments about a silly movie that was a pleasure to watch.
These comment sections in these newspaper articles is what is totally
ridiculous. Is there not enough fighting in the world that it has to be done in
a comment section? Get something to do.
Del in Connecticut | 3:07 a.m. March 2, 2008
I was raised in Utah back in the 50's and 60's and left when I was
17(Navy, married, etc.) I was rasied in the LDS faith and am still active. I
love to read the Deserst News web site to read some of the readers comments on
various things. It is great entertainment to read some of them!! Some people in
Utah need to get a life. Cheer up!! It is not a sin to laugh, have fun and even
make fun of ourselves. I go to moveis to be entertained and hope this movie
comes back to CT. Don't we as LDS have a good laugh at General Conference
time from some of the remarks from the General Authorities??? Back here in CT
there have been a few memebers who have had their spouses cremated and the main
reason is cost. So the woman is portrayed as a "mormon". Would there
be as much interest if she was a Catholic, Protestant, etc. Maybe it will
generate more interest in our faith. Remember, its a MOVIE and for
entertainment. Not a documentary about the "CHURCH".
Learn to enjoy! | 10:58 a.m. March 2, 2008
re: Jessica,
I think sometimes people like to entertain themselves with the comment posts. I know that I really love reading them. It's truly a good way to past an hour by each day, and I find the comments more enjoyable than TV. So I say to Deseret News, keep them coming in. Many of us out here truly like reading the different views of others.
I think sometimes people like to entertain themselves with the comment posts. I know that I really love reading them. It's truly a good way to past an hour by each day, and I find the comments more enjoyable than TV. So I say to Deseret News, keep them coming in. Many of us out here truly like reading the different views of others.
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See, that might actually be a good movie! Do I think that's really what it's about? Na. But my point is, you usually don't get good stories or interesting characters without shaking up people's expectations a little bit. Hence, maybe Cremation + Mormons = Interesting. But of course, it's also possible that the movie is stupid. I can't say; I know nothing about it.